15k euro, 2k euro more for flights food ct scan and hotel costs.
3mm upper jaw, 8mm lower, 7mm genio. Tons of CCW but havent got the number from Ramieri yet, have tried to leave him alone during Christmas holidays
If I'm going to get bimax next year, can I just go straight into the surgery and wear braces after? Or am I absolutely gonna have to wear them prior?
Ive heard of both options being done, i would guess it depends on what your specific surgeon prefers to do. You can ask these questions to surgeons on Instagram theey answer within a few days
I was gonna go with Andreischev but lmao after reading that post I'm not. I'm gonna go with Ramieri or Pagnoni too.
how much points u gained, i know you'r pretty realistic about yourself?
No clue, never talked or had any contact with him, it was purely Ramieri that I dealt with
Quite a bit it looks like, but im still swollen. I feel my chin was made too big from the front, but that has to be taken with a grain of salt because there is still a lot swelling that can reduce.
I was the extreme birdcel side profile, i definitely needed it. I had sleep apnea because my recession was so bad. Later when i get on my computer, ill post a drawn outline of my side profile so you can see why i had this rather than just chin wing.
did the genio widen your chin?
Im too swollen to close mouth comfortably still (i can but it feels bad)
No it didnt, thats another reason im nervous atm about the chin, it currently looks too tall for how wide it is, since only 1 dimension was changed.
The general process is tedious and painful af.
He did both impaction at the front (despite no gummy smile at all) as well as downgraft at tthe back.
Yes lips widened about 15%, before they were very narrow that it was a failo, now theyre still slightly too narrow but nowhere near as bad.
Mandible is too swollen to tell, no definition there yet, but there is on the chin
Id have to see photos in PM to be sure, but from your description it sounds it might be a bad idea. It will make your philtrum more chimplike, and the more advancement you get the worse the chimplip would become.
Yeah, ig it's better anyway since bimax recovery isn't a joke.
I'm sure a wider paranasal base is better than a jewish nose from the side!
I meant more like
Yes, theyre accurate.
Does it droop all the time or when smiling?
First thing to do is get consult online which cost 60 euros.
Thank you for answering all of our questions
I hope he had good reasons for that otherwise jew confirmed kek
Just straight to business, not much small talk.
Well done! I am scheduled with Ramieri as well for bimax + genio, his recommendation was to stay for 2 weeks post op.
Yes on the 8th day post op i flew back, and that was fine.
What widened lips?
No he didnt, yes its worth it for me but you shouldn't get this done if your recession isnt that bad, the procedure is a little overrated in terms of how much you will ascend imo. People narrow in on the bets ascensions like LordMadness, but most people dont get results that good even with the same surgeon, i know my result wont be close to good as his based on my mouth position already (not enough anteface, even with the swelling that might be making it more forward than it will end up).
Bimax did, because the lips before werent supported by my teeth and upper jaw enough. I was an extreme birdcel though, so i imagine this lip widening effect will happen less on guys who dont have very recessed starting points.
Did you know how long you’d stay beforehand? How did you manage the hotel when you realized you could leave before (if you booked a longer stay) or was it booked by a day-to-day basis?
