Hahaha I told you fuckers over for stonks and crypto

[SecularIslamist]

Asian markets are currently down. Hang send is down almost 10% I don't think I ever saw this. We are on cost for the single continuous biggest drop since 1987.

I'm probably a lot more bearish than a lot of people here. The question is is it going to be one of those quick recoveries. In 2008 and 2020 crashes those slimy bastards central banksters came to the rescue.

I genuinely don't think it will happen this time round. We already had inflation (and still do) it will just lead to a bigger inflated bubble. This was already a bubble since going into 2020. Mean reversion is inevitable. I will stick my neck out and say the bottom is about 3500 on the S&P. The NASDAQ even lower maybe

Remember it dropped almost 80%. This is unthinkable to most people. Might not drop as much but I'll say 8-10k is a very REAL possibility if we see a full blown bear market - we haven't seen a real one since 2000. The shitty housing-led bubble in 2007 doesn't count (it wasn't an equity bubble because of overpriced valuations, it was dragged down by the rest of the system). And QE came to the rescue. 2020 covid pandemic. It was an artificial pause in the market because of a fake flu. QE came to the rescue as well.

Now we see markets cratering over tariffs and people finally waking up that it was a bubble all along. The bear market should have continued from 2022. However tech came to the rescue again with AI spinning another narrative in the market to drag it up. People really went out of the way to torture the logic of why these high valuations make sense. People like Cathie Wood are total futurists and live in a fantasy.

TLDR: Chill out. Stop looking at prices. Don't even bother DCAing right now. Just see how the next few months, or the rest of the year pans out. Warren buffett's adage "be greedy when everyone's fearful has been overplayed every single time". It really should be renamed be greedy when everyone is quiet. People are not quiet right now.

@Jason Voorhees @Seth Walsh @PsychoDsk

 

[SecularIslamist]

People forget, Bears have one punch knockout power.

The bull might win 11 out of 12 rounds over the course of the whole fight. But the bear can come back and deliver a one punch KO making the last 11 rounds irrelevant.

 

[Squidwardmaxx]

Good.

 

[Jason Voorhees]

Generally central banks always step in during downturns and the biggest crashes tend to happen when people are overleveraged not when they are fearful. Bearishness is fine, but positioning is more important imp.

 

[7"L×6"G currymaxxer]

Asian markets are currently down. Hang send is down almost 10% I don't think I ever saw this. We are on cost for the single continuous biggest drop since 1987.

I'm probably a lot more bearish than a lot of people here. The question is is it going to be one of those quick recoveries. In 2008 and 2020 crashes those slimy bastards central banksters came to the rescue.

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I genuinely don't think it will happen this time round. We already had inflation (and still do) it will just lead to a bigger inflated bubble. This was already a bubble since going into 2020. Mean reversion is inevitable. I will stick my neck out and say the bottom is about 3500 on the S&P. The NASDAQ even lower maybe

Remember it dropped almost 80%. This is unthinkable to most people. Might not drop as much but I'll say 8-10k is a very REAL possibility if we see a full blown bear market - we haven't seen a real one since 2000. The shitty housing-led bubble in 2007 doesn't count (it wasn't an equity bubble because of overpriced valuations, it was dragged down by the rest of the system). And QE came to the rescue. 2020 covid pandemic. It was an artificial pause in the market because of a fake flu. QE came to the rescue as well.

Now we see markets cratering over tariffs and people finally waking up that it was a bubble all along. The bear market should have continued from 2022. However tech came to the rescue again with AI spinning another narrative in the market to drag it up. People really went out of the way to torture the logic of why these high valuations make sense. People like Cathie Wood are total futurists and live in a fantasy.

TLDR: Chill out. Stop looking at prices. Don't even bother DCAing right now. Just see how the next few months, or the rest of the year pans out. Warren buffett's adage "be greedy when everyone's fearful has been overplayed every single time". It really should be renamed be greedy when everyone is quiet. People are not quiet right now.

@Jason Voorhees @Seth Walsh @PsychoDsk

Bad goy

 

[loyolaxavvierretard]

Buy now retard. Buy when its down not when its up. Every bull run needs a bear downturn so that some lucky bastards put their money for laughs and get rich in tue next bull run

 

[7"L×6"G currymaxxer]

People forget, Bears have one punch knockout power.

The bull might win 11 out of 12 rounds over the course of the whole fight. But the bear can come back and deliver a one punch KO making the last 11 rounds irrelevant.

Noo
I am the bvll

 

[Deleted member 139053]

Noo
I am the bvll

6.5x5.1 bp maxxed out fully

 

[7"L×6"G currymaxxer]

6.5x5.1 bp maxxed out fully

7.5 × 6.3 fully maxxed

 

[Deleted member 139053]

7.5 × 6.3 fully maxxed

fk

 

[7"L×6"G currymaxxer]

fk

I am 5'8 tho

 

[Deleted member 139053]

I am 5'8 tho

Big surprise for the chicks

 

[Foreverbrad]

It’s chaos because we don’t know how the tariffs are going to effect profits.

Bear case:
The market is down 21% but this still gives P/E 22 for the S&P and that’s with pre-tariff earnings. Given that the long term average is 15, it would take a further 30% drop from here just to revert to the mean.
That is still assuming no drop in earnings.


Bull case:
Trump reverts the tariffs soon, gets some concessions, America continues to get stronger as rest of world declines. Stocks shoot back up as fast as they dropped and PE ratios of 30 are the new normal.

 

[PsychoDsk]

cope honestly.

Literally tapped my levels perfectly I drew up weeks ago
reacting insanely good rn + bullish news soon.
could dump some more but altseasons are close

 

[SecularIslamist]

cope honestly.

Literally tapped my levels perfectly I drew up weeks ago
reacting insanely good rn + bullish news soon.
could dump some more but altseasons are close
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This isn't technical analysis. A correction is long overdue and mean reversion is inevitable. We've had enough v shaped recoveries. There needs to be a period of correction and rotation to other sectors aside from tech - which has been carrying the markets for the last five years.

There could be a 1-2 year bear market. But there won't be periods like this. Will be boring. Red days will become the norm - like -0.5 or something. This is exactly what happened post 1999.

 

[PsychoDsk]

This isn't technical analysis. A correction is long overdue and mean reversion is inevitable. We've had enough v shaped recoveries. There needs to be a period of correction and rotation to other sectors aside from tech - which has been carrying the markets for the last five years.

There could be a 1-2 year bear market. But there won't be periods like this. Will be boring. Red days will become the norm - like -0.5 or something. This is exactly what happened post 1999.

Brother we had a 10% green candle in 30 seconds when there was a fake headline ‘trump pausing all tariffs’

We’re still in a bullmarket, everywhere u can see liquidity increasing. We need ONE bullish catalyst and a more stable economy and we’re continuing the uptrend.

Follow where the big money goes and they are not getting out the market, they’re increasing exposure

 

[SecularIslamist]

Brother we had a 10% green candle in 30 seconds when there was a fake headline ‘trump pausing all tariffs’

That's called volatility which is not good.

We’re still in a bullmarket, everywhere u can see liquidity increasing. We need ONE bullish catalyst and a more stable economy and we’re continuing the uptrend.

Follow where the big money goes and they are not getting out the market, they’re increasing exposure

There have been enough v-shaped recoveries. That muscle memory has become entrenched on every retail investor. Money institutions are heading for the hills taking money out the market, meanwhile retail think it can 'buy the dip' like 2008 and 2020.

I can understand why you're saying what you're saying. It's based on technical analysis and you would have been right most of the time and history of indicates you most of the time. But this is based on the fact that the fundamentals have changed. It's a 'grey swan' event. There is the idea of mean reversion which can and always has happened as well when markets become overvalued for extremely long periods. The mother and father of all bubbles was Japan in the 70s. They did not recover until last year

I'm definitely not saying the same for the USA. But it could be a couple of years if 1999 is anything to go by.

Unless QE bailss everyone out.

 

[forevergymcelling]

 

[Chadeep]

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That's why You Shouldn't Invest in Jewish Companies. Buy Gold.

 

[forevergymcelling]

That's why You Shouldn't Invest in Jewish Companies. Buy Gold.

Can't buy gold in my ISA account

I'm finna wait 1-3 months and then DCA

 

[loyolaxavvierretard]

That's called volatility which is not good.

There have been enough v-shaped recoveries. That muscle memory has become entrenched on every retail investor. Money institutions are heading for the hills taking money out the market, meanwhile retail think it can 'buy the dip' like 2008 and 2020.

I can understand why you're saying what you're saying. It's based on technical analysis and you would have been right most of the time and history of indicates you most of the time. But this is based on the fact that the fundamentals have changed. It's a 'grey swan' event. There is the idea of mean reversion which can and always has happened as well when markets become overvalued for extremely long periods. The mother and father of all bubbles was Japan in the 70s. They did not recover until last year

I'm definitely not saying the same for the USA. But it could be a couple of years if 1999 is anything to go by.

Unless QE bailss everyone out.

If this is Japan in the 70s then I retract my statement I made in this post previously. Sell all your assets, burn all the electronics and become a monk.

 

[Rabbi]

I wish I understood this stuff but I really don’t get it whatsoever.

You’re high IQ so just tell me when I should throw my life savings into a stock and I’ll do it

 

[maximum cope31]

The term "making money" is obsolete.

Forever poor or forever rich.

There is a ladder to climb but all the rungs are gone.

 

[new H150i]

I deeptested a bot I made and it had a profit factor of 20

 

[PsychoDsk]

That's called volatility which is not good.

There have been enough v-shaped recoveries. That muscle memory has become entrenched on every retail investor. Money institutions are heading for the hills taking money out the market, meanwhile retail think it can 'buy the dip' like 2008 and 2020.

I can understand why you're saying what you're saying. It's based on technical analysis and you would have been right most of the time and history of indicates you most of the time. But this is based on the fact that the fundamentals have changed. It's a 'grey swan' event. There is the idea of mean reversion which can and always has happened as well when markets become overvalued for extremely long periods. The mother and father of all bubbles was Japan in the 70s. They did not recover until last year

I'm definitely not saying the same for the USA. But it could be a couple of years if 1999 is anything to go by.

Unless QE bailss everyone out.

you are right, the thing is the fed's almost have no choice but to anounce QE plans and cut rates.
That was trump's goal at the end of the day. Now with yields going up and supposedly china + japan (imploded bank) selling bonds the fed's might have to intervene.

Trump is nuking the entire economy and the fed's have no clue what to do since with everything they'll do there'll be consequences. Trump is a retard on levels unimaginable.

Still think they anounce QE in may ngl and that will fix most of the problems. Now they're just gonna wait until trump is done being a stupid bitch

At open we'll see if the markets care about the whole yield and bond thing but they probably will so flashcrash here we go

 

[SecularIslamist]

Can't buy gold in my ISA account

I'm finna wait 1-3 months and then DCA

Buy gold mining ETF or something it usually follows gold.
.

I wish I understood this stuff but I really don’t get it whatsoever.

You’re high IQ so just tell me when I should throw my life savings into a stock and I’ll do it

Any of these:

A Complete List of Israeli Companies on The US Stock Market

stockanalysis.com

If this is Japan in the 70s then I retract my statement I made in this post previously. Sell all your assets, burn all the electronics and become a monk.

It won't be that bad. Japanese are way too different than americunts. They've been living with stagflation for decades. They are not consoomerist and they can (so far) handle declining workforce due to low birth rates.

Japan was a retarded supperbubble in every asset class. At one point a neighbourhood park was worth more than the entire real estate and housing of California

 

[Futura]

The term "making money" is obsolete.

Forever poor or forever rich.

There is a ladder to climb but all the rungs are gone.

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The only way to climb is extraordinary luck

 

[loyolaxavvierretard]

Buy gold mining ETF or something it usually follows gold.
.

Any of these:

A Complete List of Israeli Companies on The US Stock Market

stockanalysis.com

It won't be that bad. Japanese are way too different than americunts. They've been living with stagflation for decades. They are not consoomerist and they can (so far) handle declining workforce due to low birth rates.

Japan was a retarded supperbubble in every asset class. At one point a neighbourhood park was worth more than the entire real estate and housing of California

I think the market will go up eventually. That is why I used wallstreetbets language. But wallstreetbets language is for regards who need the adrenaline rush of seeing green. You seem like someone who has been in this game for a long time the way you describe the market. A noobie doesnt use terminology the way you do like "grey swan event"

 

[SecularIslamist]

I think the market will go up eventually. That is why I used wallstreetbets language. But wallstreetbets language is for regards who need the adrenaline rush of seeing green. You seem like someone who has been in this game for a long time the way you describe the market. A noobie doesnt use terminology the way you do like "grey swan event"

No I just act smart. I'm also a hypocrite. I give (good) advice I don't listen to myself. I tell people to avoid shitcoins, SPACs and buy ETFs and index funds.

But the next thing you know is I've aped into HAWK TUAH coin and bought some biotech company that's a research lab with no revenue

 

[loyolaxavvierretard]

No I just act smart. I'm also a hypocrite. I give (good) advice I don't listen to myself. I tell people to avoid shitcoins, SPACs and buy ETFs and index funds.

But the next thing you know is I've aped into HAWK TUAH coin and bought some biotech company that's a research lab with no revenue

Index funds are good advice always. But this is the time to wait and watch really. I really want to see how far Trump is willing to take it along with China. Maybe he stops maybe he goes on until some arbitrary number that will feel like bullshit to everyone. Either way he is very convinced in his ways and is not willing to adjust even a little bit. JD Vance is talking shit to Greenland so imagine how delusional the top legislators must be that the EU will get over that.

 

[2marc1]

Asian markets are currently down. Hang send is down almost 10% I don't think I ever saw this. We are on cost for the single continuous biggest drop since 1987.

I'm probably a lot more bearish than a lot of people here. The question is is it going to be one of those quick recoveries. In 2008 and 2020 crashes those slimy bastards central banksters came to the rescue.

View attachment 3626247

I genuinely don't think it will happen this time round. We already had inflation (and still do) it will just lead to a bigger inflated bubble. This was already a bubble since going into 2020. Mean reversion is inevitable. I will stick my neck out and say the bottom is about 3500 on the S&P. The NASDAQ even lower maybe

Remember it dropped almost 80%. This is unthinkable to most people. Might not drop as much but I'll say 8-10k is a very REAL possibility if we see a full blown bear market - we haven't seen a real one since 2000. The shitty housing-led bubble in 2007 doesn't count (it wasn't an equity bubble because of overpriced valuations, it was dragged down by the rest of the system). And QE came to the rescue. 2020 covid pandemic. It was an artificial pause in the market because of a fake flu. QE came to the rescue as well.

Now we see markets cratering over tariffs and people finally waking up that it was a bubble all along. The bear market should have continued from 2022. However tech came to the rescue again with AI spinning another narrative in the market to drag it up. People really went out of the way to torture the logic of why these high valuations make sense. People like Cathie Wood are total futurists and live in a fantasy.

TLDR: Chill out. Stop looking at prices. Don't even bother DCAing right now. Just see how the next few months, or the rest of the year pans out. Warren buffett's adage "be greedy when everyone's fearful has been overplayed every single time". It really should be renamed be greedy when everyone is quiet. People are not quiet right now.

@Jason Voorhees @Seth Walsh @PsychoDsk

ideal now i can get a job and save up everything

 

[GrowthReaper]

The Fed and Central Banks are far too powerful and have too much skin in the game, they will neuter the crash like in 2020. I believe the western economy likely has 5 years left until not even the most jewish of Banks can save it.

 

[SecularIslamist]

The Fed and Central Banks are far too powerful and have too much skin in the game, they will neuter the crash like in 2020. I believe the western economy likely has 5 years left until not even the most jewish of Banks can save it.

You don't get it. This is a government-induced crash. It's not 2008 or 2020.

Yes the Feds are independent, but tariffs are universally hated. Technically it's the only thing that should have bipartisan support. Even Keynes and Friedman would agree tariffs are bad. Because it's the worse worse situation for both parties. There is no spinning your way around it. Maybe it's better for some random factory worker in the short term. But he will feel the pain in the long term. Pretty much everyone else loses out in the short and long term.

 

[GrowthReaper]

You don't get it. This is a government-induced crash. It's not 2008 or 2020.

Yes the Feds are independent, but tariffs are universally hated. Technically it's the only thing that should have bipartisan support. Even Keynes and Friedman would agree tariffs are bad. Because it's the worse worse situation for both parties. There is no spinning your way around it. Maybe it's better for some random factory worker in the short term. But he will feel the pain in the long term. Pretty much everyone else loses out in the short and long term.

I never said I was in favour of tariffs. I simply said the Fed and Central Banks wouldn't let any actual crash destroy their system, especially not one induced by Trump and his demagogue lol. The current policies are short-term and either part of a negotiation tactic or pure incompetence.

 

[SecularIslamist]

I never said I was in favour of tariffs. I simply said the Fed and Central Banks wouldn't let any actual crash destroy their system, especially not one induced by Trump and his demagogue lol. The current policies are short-term and either part of a negotiation tactic or pure incompetence.

Yeah absolutely he's doing it to negotiate a better deal.

But I don't think it's a guaranteed that the fed will always come to the rescue. Because at the end of the day they need to weigh into account every time they come to the "rescue" they are actually digging a bigger and bigger hole. And yes this bubble will go into Japan 1970s territory if that happens.

 

[GrowthReaper]

Yeah absolutely he's doing it to negotiate a better deal.

But I don't think it's a guaranteed that the fed will always come to the rescue. Because at the end of the day they need to weigh into account every time they come to the "rescue" they are actually digging a bigger and bigger hole. And yes this bubble will go into Japan 1970s territory if that happens.

Oh they are most definitely not 'coming to the rescue', they are simply printing more money and delaying the actual crash. Just look at the World's richest men (at least the ones on lists). All of them are worth perhaps 5% of their actual listed worth, the rest is stock speculation. The tech industry will be the first to fall, then the jig will be up and all the Keynesian fucks in the managerial and banking class will lose the public.

 

[Foreverbrad]

Can't buy gold in my ISA account

I'm finna wait 1-3 months and then DCA

So much for that. Recession cancelled. S&P erased 50% of its losses in an hour. To the moon, and an even bigger crash as we keep kicking the can.

 

[chadlitecurry]

I was waiting for fatfuckass like you to post something like this. So much of you brainrotted single brain cells trying to be smart on twitter and now here too, The market simply goes totally opposite what you 99% masses say, it is supposed to be or institutional traders won't be able to eat. Check the market again fatass

 

[SecularIslamist]

So much for that. Recession cancelled. S&P erased 50% of its losses in an hour. To the moon, and an even bigger crash as we keep kicking the can.

I was waiting for fatfuckass like you to post something like this. So much of you brainrotted single brain cells trying to be smart on twitter and now here too, The market simply goes totally opposite what you 99% masses say, it is supposed to be or institutional traders won't be able to eat. Check the market again fatass

Look up market bubbles when you get volatile days you also get some of the biggest jumps as well. Just look at 1929 there were massive green days but it still didn't recover until decades later.

One headline and one green day it doesn't mean anything has changed.