thank you. which implants specifically?
Bimax or trimax is definitely needed
You should send a proper photo of your side profile instead of at a slight angle before we can be 100% definitive that you need bimax.
i wish man but my midface is recessed, and leforte 2/3 is too expensive
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nah man, im completely finished
my bite is class 1
i wish man but my midface is recessed, and leforte 2/3 is too expensive
This photo is even worse. I was thinking a side profile where your head is parallel to the camera.
Even with money, only a handful of surgeons are actually capable and experienced enough to do this and the vast majority of them will outright refuse to do it in non-syndromic cases.
ahh, im sorry but i dont have that.
hopefully i can find a surgeon who is willing to do it, because its super hard to in canada
yeah your right
wait do you want me to try and send another picture?
Yes I think you're a bimax candidate based on this. Not severe enough to justify for functional reasons though. You’ll likely have to pay out of pocket.
thank you for helping me
No worries.thank you for helping me
I agree, it will be difficult to argue this on functional grounds.
My nasal base is slightly more projected than his from side profile and i def need it , ropefuel to discuss it with surgeons tho
oh thanks. so far i have been considering ramieri, pagnoni, and augusto pary as potential surgeons
Pagnoni will do it for sure i consulted him like 2 yrs ago and he agreed easily idk about ramieri
Consult with a few to get a variety of opinions.
oh nice! i hope your ascension goes well. could you pm me the prices please?
A big issue in OP’s case is that the mid facial section of the face is significantly more retruded than the jaws imo.
15-20k idk about his prices now
i will, but it might be in the distant future because i realized that i have to pay out of pocket for the bimax
Y and midface is brutal to fix only implants available realistically
in euros right?
Yes im from europe tho so he might have quoted lower
Worth trying via insurance first although you don’t look 18 yet.i will, but it might be in the distant future because i realized that i have to pay out of pocket for the bimax
ill be 18 in 2 years, ill try then
Try to stimulate normal growth untll then, you could have late puberty, then your bones grow untill 22 atleast. Sleep and eat good, do some fast exercises and chew hard foods if no tmj. Just do everything in your power to correct as much as possible naturally. Its good for surgery
i wish. unfortunately i hit puberty at like 10/11 years old so any forward growth now will be minimal
The sutures of the maxilla usually close at 15-16, don't they? Over 90% of growth is complete by the age of 12.
Yea but i mean every mm counts here, its worth a try and its good for overall looksmaxxing so why not
Millimetres are miles on the face. If he could get even 2mm I'd be impressed when all the data suggests his maxilla has highly likely stopped growing at this point.
In OP's shoes, I'd start looking at 18.
Hmm yea, save up for hardmaxxes then
okay so i need implants in the midface, and no implants needed for the jaw/jaw angle?
Yes his midface is very flat, i think he just needs a small movement but a good one, since his frontal bone is also somewhat recessed.
Jaw angle implants are really a personal choice.
oo that sounds pretty nice. hopefully that will suffice. thank you
oh dang, is there any way to fix a recessed frontal bone?
Yes trough frontal bone implant but it is risky in a lot of ways, aesthetic and functional.
ahh i see, thank you! your right about the risk. i think covering it with hair will suffice
Try face rowing
