Has anyone ever used bimatoprost to reduce ipd?

[ggmax]

I'm trying to figure out if there is a solution to wide set as obo is impossible, apparently orbital decompression can reduce 1/2mm and bimatoprost down to 4. @Senssei

Customized Orbital Decompression to modify IPD

I was reading about Orbital Decompression, and its mentioned that the IPD gets on average 1,7mm shorter afterwards (https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/28130596/), I also read that bimatoprost (latisse) reduced IPD by 2,2mm on average, due to atrophy of the fat wall on the inner part of the orbits...

looksmax.org

my plan would be to do od first and then bim ( ideally lose 6 mm).
I don't know if the results would also modify the effective eye spacing or make you the Chinese type eye without medial canthal.
Has anyone done this and have pictures of the results?

 

[looksmidder]

I'm trying to figure out if there is a solution to wide set as obo is impossible, apparently orbital decompression can reduce 1/2mm and bimatoprost down to 4. @Senssei

Customized Orbital Decompression to modify IPD

I was reading about Orbital Decompression, and its mentioned that the IPD gets on average 1,7mm shorter afterwards (https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/28130596/), I also read that bimatoprost (latisse) reduced IPD by 2,2mm on average, due to atrophy of the fat wall on the inner part of the orbits...

looksmax.org

my plan would be to do od first and then bim ( ideally lose 6 mm).
I don't know if the results would also modify the effective eye spacing or make you the Chinese type eye without medial canthal.
Has anyone done this and have pictures of the results?

i’ve never heard of orbital surgeries affecting ipd, very interesting if they do though. if orbital decompression reduces ipd could orbital compression widen it?

 

[Artemis]

I'm trying to figure out if there is a solution to wide set as obo is impossible, apparently orbital decompression can reduce 1/2mm and bimatoprost down to 4. @Senssei

Customized Orbital Decompression to modify IPD

I was reading about Orbital Decompression, and its mentioned that the IPD gets on average 1,7mm shorter afterwards (https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/28130596/), I also read that bimatoprost (latisse) reduced IPD by 2,2mm on average, due to atrophy of the fat wall on the inner part of the orbits...

looksmax.org

my plan would be to do od first and then bim ( ideally lose 6 mm).
I don't know if the results would also modify the effective eye spacing or make you the Chinese type eye without medial canthal.
Has anyone done this and have pictures of the results?

If you use your

you will understand that unless you break your orbital bones, there is no way you can move your eyes closer.

Use bimatoprost though, it will give you beautiful lashes.

 

[ggmax]

If you use your

you will understand that unless you break your orbital bones, there is no way you can move your eyes closer.

Use bimatoprost though, it will give you beautiful lashes.

The effect of orbital decompression surgery on interpupillary distance and angle kappa in patients with thyroid-associated orbitopathy - PubMed

A significant decrease in IPD was noted after orbital decompression in patients with TAO. However, there was no significant change in angle kappa. Therefore, the mechanism of change in the IPD is not an inward rotation of the eyeball, but rather an actual dorsal shift causing a wedging of the...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2451993622002262

based on these two studies it is possible, your eyes are not directly touching the bone, it makes sense that changing their depth in the eye socket and a loss of fat volume would bring them closer together.
100% bro science, that’s why I’m asking

 

[Birdcell]

I have and this is what happened

 

[mortis]

I have and this is what happened
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[Artemis]

The effect of orbital decompression surgery on interpupillary distance and angle kappa in patients with thyroid-associated orbitopathy - PubMed

A significant decrease in IPD was noted after orbital decompression in patients with TAO. However, there was no significant change in angle kappa. Therefore, the mechanism of change in the IPD is not an inward rotation of the eyeball, but rather an actual dorsal shift causing a wedging of the...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2451993622002262

based on these two studies it is possible, your eyes are not directly touching the bone, it makes sense that changing their depth in the eye socket and a loss of fat volume would bring them closer together.
100% bro science, that’s why I’m asking

WHen they decompress your eyes, they break the LATERAL orbital bones, not medial. In practice, it means your eyes will become even more wide-set... in theory.

And bimatoprost claim is a myth tbh.

 

[Deleted member 15539]

If you use your

you will understand that unless you break your orbital bones, there is no way you can move your eyes closer.

Use bimatoprost though, it will give you beautiful lashes.

Beyond over for these people fr

 

[Deleted member 15539]

The effect of orbital decompression surgery on interpupillary distance and angle kappa in patients with thyroid-associated orbitopathy - PubMed

A significant decrease in IPD was noted after orbital decompression in patients with TAO. However, there was no significant change in angle kappa. Therefore, the mechanism of change in the IPD is not an inward rotation of the eyeball, but rather an actual dorsal shift causing a wedging of the...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2451993622002262

based on these two studies it is possible, your eyes are not directly touching the bone, it makes sense that changing their depth in the eye socket and a loss of fat volume would bring them closer together.
100% bro science, that’s why I’m asking

The eye is packed into the fat pads really densely between 6 muscles, a few tendons, and the bone mass.

 

[Senssei]

If you use your

you will understand that unless you break your orbital bones, there is no way you can move your eyes closer.

Use bimatoprost though, it will give you beautiful lashes.

OP is correct, both bimatoprost and orbital decompression bring eyeballs closer to each other. Research before writing bs. I guess you are the one that should use your brain before writing.
Bimatoprost made this guy eyeballs 4mm closer:

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2451993622002262

Orbital Decompression lowering IPD:

The effect of orbital decompression surgery on interpupillary distance and angle kappa in patients with thyroid-associated orbitopathy - PubMed

A significant decrease in IPD was noted after orbital decompression in patients with TAO. However, there was no significant change in angle kappa. Therefore, the mechanism of change in the IPD is not an inward rotation of the eyeball, but rather an actual dorsal shift causing a wedging of the...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

More of the Bimatoprost "myth"

Shortening of Interpupillary Distance after Instillation of Topical Prostaglandin Analog Eye Drops - PubMed

The IPD decreased significantly after topical PGAs within 24 months. The effect was significantly greater with bimatoprost than with other PGAs. The noninvasive, immediate automatic refractometry measurement may be an objective numerical indicator of PAP.

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

The reason OD and protaglandins lower IPD is because the eyesockets structures go inwards in a diagonal structure, so when the eyeballs go farther back in the orbits, they also go inwards. Fool. Artemis should be banned for spreading misinformation.

 

[Senssei]

Beyond over for these people fr

Beyond over for people not actually reading the studies before posting.

 

[Senssei]

i’ve never heard of orbital surgeries affecting ipd, very interesting if they do though. if orbital decompression reduces ipd could orbital compression widen it?

Probably just shorten it because the back of the orbits structure go naturally inward (look the image I posted above).

 

[Senssei]

I'm trying to figure out if there is a solution to wide set as obo is impossible, apparently orbital decompression can reduce 1/2mm and bimatoprost down to 4. @Senssei

Customized Orbital Decompression to modify IPD

I was reading about Orbital Decompression, and its mentioned that the IPD gets on average 1,7mm shorter afterwards (https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/28130596/), I also read that bimatoprost (latisse) reduced IPD by 2,2mm on average, due to atrophy of the fat wall on the inner part of the orbits...

looksmax.org

my plan would be to do od first and then bim ( ideally lose 6 mm).
I don't know if the results would also modify the effective eye spacing or make you the Chinese type eye without medial canthal.
Has anyone done this and have pictures of the results?

You dont need more than 3mm reduction. 2 is already alot, 3 mm reduction reduces your midfacial ratio by 0.05, which is huge. It means you could go from alien 71.5mm to Gandy moderatedly wide set 68.5mm. Just use bimatoprost (more than once daily if you want more than 3mm). But be prepared to spend a little bit of money on fillers for the upper eyelid region since it will absolutely increase your UEE, but thats one of the easiest and fastest fixes. This is 1-2mm of IPD reduction and its already notable, so picture 3-4mm.

 

[Deleted member 15539]

Beyond over for people not actually reading the studies before posting.

Mate these studies are from patients with
1) hyperthyreoditis
2) glaucoma

You can not compare that to a healthy eye

 

[Senssei]

Mate these studies are from patients with
1) hyperthyreoditis
2) glaucoma

You can not compare that to a healthy eye

The surgeon in the study that had his ipd shortened by whole 4mms with bimatoprost had moderate glaucoma not hyperthyreoditis, and glaucoma doesnt change the spacing of the eye nor how tissues in the orbit are positioned, its only about how easily inner eye fluid is drained, so you can totally compare that to a healthy eye because the mechanism at work responsible to alter the ipd (atrophy of the fat walls behind the eye) is totally unrelated to having glaucoma or not. Its not that hard to understand. The change in ipd here is totally unrelated to glaucoma, its just a bimatoprost side effect, nothing else. Also, if you had read the study, you would have seen that his inner eye pressure remained the same with bimatoprost (meaning it was inefficient at treating his glaucoma), and yet his ipd shortened alot. Scientifically this proves that the ipd change is absolutely unrelated to his glaucoma. At this point you are just being dullheaded.

 

[looksforlife]

View attachment 2230021

is this orbital decompression?

 

[ggmax]

is this orbital decompression?

“cosmetic orbital decompression (bulging eye surgery), lower eyelid retraction surgery with canthoplasty (almond eye surgery) and infraorbital rim silicone implant.”

 

[ggmax]

OP is correct, both bimatoprost and orbital decompression bring eyeballs closer to each other. Research before writing bs. I guess you are the one that should use your brain before writing.
Bimatoprost made this guy eyeballs 4mm closer:

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2451993622002262

Orbital Decompression lowering IPD:

The effect of orbital decompression surgery on interpupillary distance and angle kappa in patients with thyroid-associated orbitopathy - PubMed

A significant decrease in IPD was noted after orbital decompression in patients with TAO. However, there was no significant change in angle kappa. Therefore, the mechanism of change in the IPD is not an inward rotation of the eyeball, but rather an actual dorsal shift causing a wedging of the...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

More of the Bimatoprost "myth"

Shortening of Interpupillary Distance after Instillation of Topical Prostaglandin Analog Eye Drops - PubMed

The IPD decreased significantly after topical PGAs within 24 months. The effect was significantly greater with bimatoprost than with other PGAs. The noninvasive, immediate automatic refractometry measurement may be an objective numerical indicator of PAP.

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

The reason OD and protaglandins lower IPD is because the eyesockets structures go inwards in a diagonal structure, so when the eyeballs go farther back in the orbits, they also go inwards. Fool. Artemis should be banned for spreading misinformation.View attachment 2229978

I found this study that explains the differences between the various methods, @Artemis was right, ipd was increased by lateral OD and decreased with internal OD (2/10mm), balanced OD can reduce IPD or increase it (-3/6mm). If the surgeon can somewhat predict the shift I think internal OD can be a valid option for wide set without setting eyes behind the ears (internal OD reduce bulging 50% less than lateral or balanced).
In my opinion, more expensive but better than have a lifetime subscription to an eyedrop med.
I’m going to ask to eye surgeon and make a post about it

Horizontal Eye Position in Thyroid Eye Disease: A Retrospective Comparison with Normal Individuals and Changes after Orbital Decompression Surgery

Objective To compare horizontal eye positions between proptotic thyroid eye disease patients and normal individuals, and to examine positional changes after orbital decompression surgery in thyroid eye disease patients. Methods The present case-controlled and retrospective comparative study...

journals.plos.org

 

[Deleted member 19766]

If you think it works so well then why don't you use it yourself, narrow down your own IPD, and prove it to us? @Artemis is right, this shit is a myth.

 

[ggmax]

If you think it works so well then why don't you use it yourself, narrow down your own IPD, and prove it to us? @Artemis is right, this shit is a myth.

I’ve started using it 3 days ago.
If it works results will come slowly, I think 3 months at least.
whether it works or it's bs I'll make a post about it

 

[Deleted member 19766]

I’ve started using it 3 days ago.
If it works results will come slowly, I think 3 months at least.
whether it works or it's bs I'll make a post about it

please tag me, @Artemis & @yellowmogger921 in it

 

[Subhuman232]

yo bro what happened to ur ipd? if it's reduced huge lifefuel I don't need to do obo anymore

 

[caiolindo]

I'm trying to figure out if there is a solution to wide set as obo is impossible, apparently orbital decompression can reduce 1/2mm and bimatoprost down to 4. @Senssei

Customized Orbital Decompression to modify IPD

I was reading about Orbital Decompression, and its mentioned that the IPD gets on average 1,7mm shorter afterwards (https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/28130596/), I also read that bimatoprost (latisse) reduced IPD by 2,2mm on average, due to atrophy of the fat wall on the inner part of the orbits...

looksmax.org

my plan would be to do od first and then bim ( ideally lose 6 mm).
I don't know if the results would also modify the effective eye spacing or make you the Chinese type eye without medial canthal.
Has anyone done this and have pictures of the results?

Orbital Box Osteotomy NOW

 

[appealmaxed]

wtf is this retarded shit

 

[ggmax]

yo bro what happened to ur ipd? if it's reduced huge lifefuel I don't need to do obo anymore

i've stopped using it because it burned like hell and i had red eyes all day long even if it was 0.01%, don't really know if it worked but for me it wasn't worth it.
I know there were other people experimenting though, maybe @Senssei have seen some results from them

 

[mtcut3plush]

i've stopped using it because it burned like hell and i had red eyes all day long even if it was 0.01%, don't really know if it worked but for me it wasn't worth it.
I know there were other people experimenting though, maybe @Senssei have seen some results from them

is there any way to increase ipd using the same method