have any autists received laser eye color change (iridoplasty)?

[sub6manletnozygos]

For the purpose of this thread, I am only talking about laser irdoplasty (laser that destroys melonin in the eye, revealing pigments below that give the appearance of 'grey'/'blue' eyes), not any keratopigmentation (inserted pigment which has a noticeably higher adverse outcomes and looks unnatural).

The two laser clinics I have identified are Eyecos in Barcelona and Yeux Clairs in Monterrey.

Outcomes with latest technology seem ok, with low rates of raised intra ocular pressure and no sustained glaucoma, according to 1 study (it has a conflict of interest with eyecos). What is amusing is that the paper notes inadvertent improvements in myopia due to refractive corrections. This is interesting as I have slight myopia.

Some myopic patients became emmetropic and, proportionally, several emmetropes became slightly hyperopic and presbyopic. For practical purposes, this change in refractive errors meant many patients with slight accommodative myopia no longer needed glasses or contact lenses, since their distance vision was ostensibly improved.

Photoablative cosmetic iridoplasty: effective, safe, and predictable—eye color change in 1176 eyes - PMC

To evaluate photoablative cosmetic iridoplasty (PCI), and its efficacy, safety, predictability, and satisfaction with the 532 nm Crystal Q-switched Nd: Yag laser, with 3–4 ns pulses, for depigmentation of the anterior epithelium of the iris in cases ...

pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Unfortunately, the study has limited data, and only records results from 2017-2020. It would be interesting to see long term follow ups 3-30+ years.

There is Stroma, which is incorporated in America, and is currently being trialed, but is not approved by the FDA for consumer consumption yet.

 

[sub6manletnozygos]

Results from the study.

 

[The Dark Phoenix]

Iridocyclitis

 

[666PSL]

Iridocyclitis

 

[sub6manletnozygos]

For the purpose of this thread, I am only talking about laser irdoplasty (laser that destroys melonin in the eye, revealing pigments below that give the appearance of 'grey'/'blue' eyes), not any keratopigmentation (inserted pigment which has a noticeably higher adverse outcomes and looks unnatural).

The two laser clinics I have identified are Eyecos in Barcelona and Yeux Clairs in Monterrey.

Outcomes with latest technology seem ok, with low rates of raised intra ocular pressure and no sustained glaucoma, according to 1 study (it has a conflict of interest with eyecos). What is amusing is that the paper notes inadvertent improvements in myopia due to refractive corrections. This is interesting as I have slight myopia.

Photoablative cosmetic iridoplasty: effective, safe, and predictable—eye color change in 1176 eyes - PMC

To evaluate photoablative cosmetic iridoplasty (PCI), and its efficacy, safety, predictability, and satisfaction with the 532 nm Crystal Q-switched Nd: Yag laser, with 3–4 ns pulses, for depigmentation of the anterior epithelium of the iris in cases ...

pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Unfortunately, the study has limited data, and only records results from 2017-2020. It would be interesting to see long term follow ups 3-30+ years.

There is Stroma, which is incorporated in America, and is currently being trialed, but is not approved by the FDA for consumer consumption yet.

The positives:
~4 month for a full course (2-4 days treatment every 2 months) to change shade of eyes.

Reasonable recovery (iritis resolves within a few days and melanin is removed over 2 months after each treatment).

Blindness seems unlikely.

The negatives:
Delayed reactive iritis affecting 25% (inflammation, pain, and photophobia) albeit this resolved after treatment.

Potential issues like pupil morphology changes and hyperopic shifts (farsightedness), requiring corrective lenses especially for those over 40.

Accidental outlier event could involve the laser hitting the pupil directly, likely causing corneal burns, scarring, cataract formation, severe retinal damage and potential blindness. However, the study does not note cases like this.

Lack of repeated long term 10+ year studies on large sample sizes regarding visual acuity, eye color, eye health.

The intervention's effects can be quite mild (dark grey) for people with grade 3-5 eyes.

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It is interesting to consider, but I'm not sure if its worth the risk.

 

[chadhamed]

Stroma

 

[sub6manletnozygos]

Stroma

It is currently being trialed in America, but is not approved by the FDA for consumer consumption yet.

 

[Angutoid]

Im not sure which one would be better
I addressed everything in this thread

My take on Kerato vs Laser

If you want to get eye color halo, you need a "light" color since when its not brown but still dark, it won't be noticable that you have colored eyes unless youre under very certain lights So with eye color change surgeries, you should aim for a "light color", not just a color thats not brown...

looksmax.org

 

[sub6manletnozygos]

Im not sure which one would be better
I addressed everything in this thread

My take on Kerato vs Laser

If you want to get eye color halo, you need a "light" color since when its not brown but still dark, it won't be noticable that you have colored eyes unless youre under very certain lights So with eye color change surgeries, you should aim for a "light color", not just a color thats not brown...

looksmax.org

Kerato implants are unnatural (structurally and looks wise), involving the insertion of artificial pigment into the eye, which I find concerning. Given eye sensitivity and their importance to a fulfilling life, I prefer the iridoplasty laser as a safer, non-invasive alternative. It avoids the risks of permanent foreign objects and preserves the eye's structural integrity.

 

[Angutoid]

Kerato implants are unnatural (structurally and looks wise), involving the insertion of artificial pigment into the eye, which I find concerning. Given eye sensitivity and their importance to a fulfilling life, I prefer the iridoplasty laser as a safer, non-invasive alternative. It avoids the risks of permanent foreign objects and preserves the eye's structural integrity.

Health wise yes pigment removal is better but idk if i would wanna risk all that for potentially nothing (dark blue/dark grey)

 

[sub6manletnozygos]

Health wise yes pigment removal is better but idk if i would wanna risk all that for potentially nothing (dark blue/dark grey)

I'm not sure that dark blue/dark grey eyes are nothing. It's better than dark brown/black eyes, especially in photos with a flash.

 

[Angutoid]

I'm not sure that dark blue/dark grey eyes are nothing. It's better than dark brown/black eyes, especially in photos with a flash.

Thats why i would maybe risk kerato since the color is certain and light under all lights

 

[sub6manletnozygos]

bump

 

[sub6manletnozygos]

bump

 

[axttt_]

yes there was a user who had it

 

[sub6manletnozygos]

yes there was a user who had it

who?

 

[sub6manletnozygos]

Results from the study.

It's also worth noting that in some of these picture they appear to shine a bright light into the picture, and or, raise the contrast to make the eyes appear lighter.
For example, on the tiktoks of both companies the results seem less edited and the eyes are less bright (more grey than blue).
https://www.tiktok.com/@eyecosclinic
https://www.tiktok.com/@yeuxclairslaser

I still believe the results are impressive, and at least better than having regular dark brown eyes.

 

[Axhar1]

It is currently being trialed in America, but is not approved by the FDA for consumer consumption yet.

you think it'll be available for public use in 5 years?
if yes how much would it cost

 

[sub6manletnozygos]

you think it'll be available for public use in 5 years?
if yes how much would it cost

no idea as its not approved. however, as its an american company (with higher COL and more burdensome approval process) i imagine it would cost more than Spanish and Mexican clinics like Eyecos or Yeux Clairs.

 

[Axhar1]

no idea as its not approved. however, as its an american company (with higher COL and more burdensome approval process) i imagine it would cost more than Spanish and Mexican clinics like Eyecos or Yeux Clairs.

the results aren't the best from lasering because the eyes are still "dark"
a lighter shade somehow would mog

some guy here got laser from eyecos btw

 

[sub6manletnozygos]

the results aren't the best from lasering because the eyes are still "dark"
a lighter shade somehow would mog

some guy here got laser from eyecos btw

Yeah, the results aren't amazing but better than regular brown eyes.
Who got eyecos? Can you link the thread, please.

 

[Axhar1]

Yeah, the results aren't amazing but better than regular brown eyes.
Who got eyecos? Can you link the thread, please.

Everything about eye color change procedures

Every day, many people always ask me in DM about eye color change. I also read a lot of wrong informations there. People claiming that laser looks do fake showing Keratopigmentation results AND dangerous sharing Brightocular implants feedback. Yes but... No ! I'm one of the person who got laser...

looksmax.org

the OP

 

[sub6manletnozygos]

Everything about eye color change procedures

Every day, many people always ask me in DM about eye color change. I also read a lot of wrong informations there. People claiming that laser looks do fake showing Keratopigmentation results AND dangerous sharing Brightocular implants feedback. Yes but... No ! I'm one of the person who got laser...

looksmax.org

the OP

Interesting. He received decent results.
I wonder what the results are of people who do 2 treatments with eyecos and then additional limited sessions at yeux clairs (with their low powered laser), if one so desires.

 

[axttt_]

who?

@Akatlyn

 

[Akatlyn]

Thats why i would maybe risk kerato since the color is certain and light under all lights

Fake in absolutely all lighting mostly if you choose a light color
Then it's not appealing

 

[Angutoid]

Fake in absolutely all lighting mostly if you choose a light color
Then it's not appealing

Shouldnt be that much of a concern with a compact pfh

 

[Akatlyn]

Shouldnt be that much of a concern with a compact pfh

If you have ideal eye area/PFL PFH ratio you don't even need eye color change. Brown eyes will do the job

 

[Angutoid]

If you have ideal eye area/PFL PFH ratio you don't even need eye color change. Brown eyes will do the job

I always thought of it as a cherry on top

 

[Akatlyn]

I always thought of it as a cherry on top

I see
But Kerato is not worth it. It looks faker than a lot of colored lenses.
+ the dye fades so you'll need retouchs

 

[Angutoid]

I see
But Kerato is not worth it. It looks faker than a lot of colored lenses.
+ the dye fades so you'll need retouchs

I have dark green eyes is my chance of ending up with a dark blue/dark grey same as anybody else?

 

[IHATEINDIANS]

Genuinely retarded if you want to risk your eyesight over eye color. Just contact fraud

 

[Akatlyn]

I have dark green eyes is my chance of ending up with a dark blue/dark grey same as anybody else?

You have an advantage since you're starting with a light base, less pigments to remove

 

[e.skimo]

For the purpose of this thread, I am only talking about laser irdoplasty (laser that destroys melonin in the eye, revealing pigments below that give the appearance of 'grey'/'blue' eyes), not any keratopigmentation (inserted pigment which has a noticeably higher adverse outcomes and looks unnatural).

The two laser clinics I have identified are Eyecos in Barcelona and Yeux Clairs in Monterrey.

Outcomes with latest technology seem ok, with low rates of raised intra ocular pressure and no sustained glaucoma, according to 1 study (it has a conflict of interest with eyecos). What is amusing is that the paper notes inadvertent improvements in myopia due to refractive corrections. This is interesting as I have slight myopia.

Photoablative cosmetic iridoplasty: effective, safe, and predictable—eye color change in 1176 eyes - PMC

To evaluate photoablative cosmetic iridoplasty (PCI), and its efficacy, safety, predictability, and satisfaction with the 532 nm Crystal Q-switched Nd: Yag laser, with 3–4 ns pulses, for depigmentation of the anterior epithelium of the iris in cases ...

pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Unfortunately, the study has limited data, and only records results from 2017-2020. It would be interesting to see long term follow ups 3-30+ years.

There is Stroma, which is incorporated in America, and is currently being trialed, but is not approved by the FDA for consumer consumption yet.

Interesting thread, thanks

 

[sub6manletnozygos]

If you have ideal eye area/PFL PFH ratio you don't even need eye color change. Brown eyes will do the job

that is true. i have vertical orbital dystopia (uneven canthus) and a negative orbital vector, so i was hoping lighter eyes would compensate for this.
i would prefer laser depigmentation to invasive surgery as im concerned about the risks associated with almond eye surgery (canthoplasty, either sutures or drill hole, ptosis and bleph) and the possible vision problems like outlier misalignment (eg alternating exotropia) or infection, leading to blindness.