Have I got the Potential to be attractive? What areas can be "easily" improved upon?

[sebaas000]

I am 193cm tall (6'3) of balkan descent but living in spain. I am 18 years old and balding,I have started minoxidil and derma stamping which have really, and I mean REALLY helped my hair until now (almost 3 months approx) and I have seen a lot of new dark baby hairs coming in in my recessed hairline. Next month I will hop on finasteride.
My jawline is not strong, i have poor posture (anterior pelvic tilt and some forward neck posture) and I plan on getting a palate expander as soon as possible. I will get falim gum aswell because my whole life i have been eating mainly soft foods and my masseters are not developed AT ALL.
With these pictures, what would you rate me on a 1/10 APPEAL scale taking the whole thing (body + face) into account? and what potential rating could I achieve with softmaxxing only (no surgery)?.
Please give me tips as well, tell me what my strengths (if any) and weaknesses are, what could easily be improved and what do you think would do any good to me.
Thank you in advance guys, much love, and yes, I know i'm a low ltn, but do you believe i could ever become a MTN without surgerymaxxing?

 

[Dastan]

at least mid mtn smv in total, so around 5/10

 

[rance]

Height halo saves you tbh

 

[GodKing11]

Get eyebrows waxed and proper haircut for quick boost. Defo see potential. Also throw that striped collared shirt away

 

[sebaas000]

Get eyebrows waxed and proper haircut for quick boost. Defo see potential. Also throw that striped collared shirt away

i actually thought about waxing them and also perhaps using a colouring pen to darken them and give them a more pronounced shape, also, do i try to give them a hard angle or a soft angle?

 

[sebaas000]

Height halo saves you tbh

yeah otherwise i consider myself a 4/10 facially tbh

 

[sebaas000]

at least mid mtn smv in total, so around 5/10

anything I can do to increase that score?

 

[GodKing11]

i actually thought about waxing them and also perhaps using a colouring pen to darken them and give them a more pronounced shape, also, do i try to give them a hard angle or a soft angle?

If you go to a shop the workers will know how to make it look best. Look for a tiny Asian woman to do them.

 

[Black_Pill_Enjoyer1]

I am 193cm tall (6'3)

I stopped reading.

 

[GreekGenes]

facially you're slightly below average.
I don't think you can become attractive by softmaxxing.

 

[sebaas000]

facially you're slightly below average.
I don't think you can become attractive by softmaxxing.

what hardmaxx could i possibly do that isn't too expensive?

 

[sebaas000]

I stopped reading.

it does NOT help THAT much, i promise

 

[neverbegun4me]

I am 193cm tall (6'3) of balkan descent but living in spain. I am 18 years old and balding,I have started minoxidil and derma stamping which have really, and I mean REALLY helped my hair until now (almost 3 months approx) and I have seen a lot of new dark baby hairs coming in in my recessed hairline. Next month I will hop on finasteride.
My jawline is not strong, i have poor posture (anterior pelvic tilt and some forward neck posture) and I plan on getting a palate expander as soon as possible. I will get falim gum aswell because my whole life i have been eating mainly soft foods and my masseters are not developed AT ALL.
With these pictures, what would you rate me on a 1/10 APPEAL scale taking the whole thing (body + face) into account? and what potential rating could I achieve with softmaxxing only (no surgery)?.
Please give me tips as well, tell me what my strengths (if any) and weaknesses are, what could easily be improved and what do you think would do any good to me.
Thank you in advance guys, much love, and yes, I know i'm a low ltn, but do you believe i could ever become a MTN without surgerymaxxing?

Wax eyebrows ASAP

 

[sebaas000]

Wax eyebrows ASAP

how do I shape them?

 

[Alucard69]

what hardmaxx could i possibly do that isn't too expensive?

genioplasty bhai

 

[Alucard69]

what hardmaxx could i possibly do that isn't too expensive?

and or cantho

 

[sebaas000]

genioplasty bhai

that is 100% in my plans, also, do you think i can achieve a decent jaw line by lowering my face fat? i think my bodyfat is around 17-22%

 

[Alucard69]

that is 100% in my plans, also, do you think i can achieve a decent jaw line by lowering my face fat? i think my bodyfat is around 17-22%

I don't think so currently but who knows, probably not

 

[Alucard69]

that is 100% in my plans, also, do you think i can achieve a decent jaw line by lowering my face fat? i think my bodyfat is around 17-22%

Btw you didn't show side profile, it's always to good to show side because it gives more info, especially for hardmaxxing not so much for soft though

 

[sebaas000]

Btw you didn't show side profile, it's always to good to show side because it gives more info, especially for hardmaxxing not so much for soft though

here's my side, forgot to attach it, currently i consider myself a LTN, below average of course, but im recovering my temples and i expect a full head of hair, also i am wearing braces and i hope to get an MSE before 2026, im 17Y/O and i would also like to get a rhinoplasty, but tbh my beard is very unkept, i will shave today, also my eyebrows are bushy as hell and i will wax them and maxx them, just like my eyelashes.
do you see ANY potential in me? you can be absolutely honest, i have good self esteem

 

[BProdigy]

here's my side, forgot to attach it, currently i consider myself a LTN, below average of course, but im recovering my temples and i expect a full head of hair, also i am wearing braces and i hope to get an MSE before 2026, im 17Y/O and i would also like to get a rhinoplasty, but tbh my beard is very unkept, i will shave today, also my eyebrows are bushy as hell and i will wax them and maxx them, just like my eyelashes.
do you see ANY potential in me? you can be absolutely honest, i have good self esteem

You look obese. Please drop way more bf. I can’t even see any bones. Get a HT and grow your hair out. You don’t need rhino

 

[sebaas000]

You look obese. Please drop way more bf. I can’t even see any bones. Get a HT and grow your hair out. You don’t need rhino

You look obese. Please drop way more bf. I can’t even see any bones. Get a HT and grow your hair out. You don’t need rhino

currently 90kg at 193cm tall, i think i hold a lot of bodyfat in my face, do you think i should drop the bodyfat NOW or should I hold on until i build muscle before I cut down my bodyfat?

 

[Deleted member 108698]

Easy Improvement List:
Lefort III
Bucal Fat Removal
Liposuction
Rhinoplasty
Facelift
Hair Transplant
Contacts
Lip Augmentation
Body lift
Chin Augmentation
Bonesmashing
Zygo Thumb Pulling
MaxilloFacial Surgery
AbdominoPlasty
Chemical Peel
Filler Injections
Fin
And buy a strong piece of rope and hang yourself

 

[srkami]

Easy Improvement List:
Lefort III
Bucal Fat Removal
Liposuction
Rhinoplasty
Facelift
Hair Transplant
Contacts
Lip Augmentation
Body lift
Chin Augmentation
Bonesmashing
Zygo Thumb Pulling
MaxilloFacial Surgery
AbdominoPlasty
Chemical Peel
Filler Injections
Fin
And buy a strong piece of rope and hang yourself

Most brutal roast ive seen on this website, damn, so over

 

[Iblame_bonemass]

currently 90kg at 193cm tall, i think i hold a lot of bodyfat in my face, do you think i should drop the bodyfat NOW or should I hold on until i build muscle before I cut down my bodyfat?

U don’t need to go on some serious cut or bulk. Just have a slight calorie surplus eating healthy whole foods with enough protein. Limit carbs and go gym. Main focus shld be increasing test, currently you have an unoptimal test to est ratio. That’s why your face isn’t angular as you have no bones. If you drink enough dog milk with a hint of asparagus you cld grow some

 

[sebaas000]

Easy Improvement List:
Lefort III
Bucal Fat Removal
Liposuction
Rhinoplasty
Facelift
Hair Transplant
Contacts
Lip Augmentation
Body lift
Chin Augmentation
Bonesmashing
Zygo Thumb Pulling
MaxilloFacial Surgery
AbdominoPlasty
Chemical Peel
Filler Injections
Fin
And buy a strong piece of rope and hang yourself

man if i didn't have the height halo i would probably cry after reading this shit fr

 

[sebaas000]

Easy Improvement List:
Lefort III
Bucal Fat Removal
Liposuction
Rhinoplasty
Facelift
Hair Transplant
Contacts
Lip Augmentation
Body lift
Chin Augmentation
Bonesmashing
Zygo Thumb Pulling
MaxilloFacial Surgery
AbdominoPlasty
Chemical Peel
Filler Injections
Fin
And buy a strong piece of rope and hang yourself

ok now on a real note, is it actually THAT over?

 

[Mugwump]

Easy Improvement List:
Lefort III
Bucal Fat Removal
Liposuction
Rhinoplasty
Facelift
Hair Transplant
Contacts
Lip Augmentation
Body lift
Chin Augmentation
Bonesmashing
Zygo Thumb Pulling
MaxilloFacial Surgery
AbdominoPlasty
Chemical Peel
Filler Injections
Fin
And buy a strong piece of rope and hang yourself

 

[zemult]

Most brutal roast ive seen on this website, damn, so over

Nigga was just shitposting "most brutal roast" JFL

 

[srkami]

Nigga was just shitposting "most brutal roast" JFL

Yeah funny af tho

 

[Mugwump]

Nigga was just shitposting "most brutal roast" JFL

tbh he does need a long list of surgeries

 

[zemult]

tbh he does need a long list of surgeries

Not really. His biggest falio (Long Midface) isn't even fixable via surgery.

 

[Mugwump]

Not really. His biggest falio (Long Midface) isn't even fixable via surgery.

yeah i meant just in case he wants to copemaxx bc ofc he will never be more than a high tier subhuman

 

[Mugwump]

Not really. His biggest falio (Long Midface) isn't even fixable via surgery.

someone needs to find a solution for long midface it would revolutionize surgerymaxing
although i measured his mfr its only like 0.95 its around average

 

[zemult]

yeah i meant just in case he wants to copemaxx bc ofc he will never be more than a high tier subhuman

Not really, he's currently on the higher end of LTN and could probably become MTN after fixing the hairline.

He looks facially average otherwise, sure he has NCT but he could pull it off.

It's up to him if he wants to get a Canthoplasty for that, it will ascend him but it could also make him botched considering its risks

 

[zemult]

someone needs to find a solution for long midface it would revolutionize surgerymaxing
although i measured his mfr its only like 0.95 its around average

Yeah it's not that bad, I just remember in another batch of pictures he sent it looked worse. But probs lens distortion + shitty angle.

 

[Mugwump]

Not really, he's currently on the higher end of LTN and could probably become MTN after fixing the hairline.

He looks facially average otherwise, sure he has NCT but he could pull it off.

It's up to him if he wants to get a Canthoplasty for that, it will ascend him but it could also make him botched considering its risks

looks MTN here ?

 

[zemult]

looks MTN here ?
View attachment 3322535

Wow yeah, higher MTN.

What did you change? Just the canthal tilt + hairline?

 

[Mugwump]

Wow yeah, higher MTN.

What did you change? Just the canthal tilt + hairline?

canthal tilt, hairline, eyebrows (more dense, groomed), taller chin, rhinoplasty, more cheekbones

 

[zemult]

canthal tilt, hairline, eyebrows (more dense, groomed), taller chin, rhinoplasty, more cheekbones

Definitely achievable, also keep in mind these are not his true cheekbones in his pictures considering he looks high BF%.

@sebaas000 After managing your hairline, you should look into what eyebrow grooming, genioplasty, rhinoplasty, leaning out, and a canthoplasty.

Be careful with canthoplasty though, the wrong surgeon can make you look botched.

 

[zemult]

Definitely achievable, also keep in mind these are not his true cheekbones in his pictures considering he looks high BF%.

@sebaas000 After managing your hairline, you should look into what eyebrow grooming, genioplasty, rhinoplasty, leaning out, and a canthoplasty.

Be careful with canthoplasty though, the wrong surgeon can make you look botched.

Grammar error. Oh well.

 

[Mugwump]

Definitely achievable, also keep in mind these are not his true cheekbones in his pictures considering he looks high BF%.

@sebaas000 After managing your hairline, you should look into what eyebrow grooming, genioplasty, rhinoplasty, leaning out, and a canthoplasty.

Be careful with canthoplasty though, the wrong surgeon can make you look botched.

yeah but his cheekbones are still recessed i can tell
he could get fillers tho they mog for cheekbones (many will rage at me and say implants mog but i made a thread abt it, fillers are good)
for eye surgery, he needs to go see taban or some eye expert in his league

 

[zemult]

yeah but his cheekbones are still recessed i can tell
he could get fillers tho they mog for cheekbones (many will rage at me and say implants mog but i made a thread abt it, fillers are good)
for eye surgery, he needs to go see taban or some eye expert in his league

U still can't really tell with high BF%. He should go to 12% BF or get a skull scan to know for sure

What about migration with fillers?

 

[Mugwump]

U still can't really tell with high BF%. He should go to 12% BF or get a skull scan to know for sure

What about migration with fillers?

yeah always leanmax first before surgeries

ive researched fillers for a few months and my conclusion is
1-its rare and only happens when theres too much placed at the wrong location. Fillers can be placed at different levels between layers of tissues (skin, fat, muscle, bone). The ideal is to inject small amounts in each layer.
2-It can be dissolved quite easily anyways
3-Most botox horror cases are often mistaken for filler migration (like the bloated barrett case)

So you just gotta find someone who knows his shit and injects properly and doesnt go overboard
the rest is fearmongering cope

 

[sebaas000]

yeah i meant just in case he wants to copemaxx bc ofc he will never be more than a high tier subhuman

damn

 

[Mugwump]

damn

try to achieve my morph sorry if i depressed u

 

[sebaas000]

Not really, he's currently on the higher end of LTN and could probably become MTN after fixing the hairline.

He looks facially average otherwise, sure he has NCT but he could pull it off.

It's up to him if he wants to get a Canthoplasty for that, it will ascend him but it could also make him botched considering its risks

i would love to get a canthoplasty but i don't think it's a good idea, i will probably get something done on my chin and cheekbones though.
But i'm not stressing THAT much, mainly because I have my height + physique halos (6'33 and 200lbs moderately muscular) which has made it easier for me to get with some nice girls throughout my life.

 

[sebaas000]

try to achieve my morph sorry if i depressed u

you didn't, don't worry man, thank you so much for the honesty btw, i am currently about to buy finasteride and im already on minox + dermastamping, i will also maxx my eyebrows with minox and my eyelashes are being maxxed thanks to castor oil.
I have to say though, i like much more what I see in the mirror than what i see in my camera, so perhaps being a MTN is achievable for me in the future. I also have a narrow palate which i will fix with and MSE in the near future (im 17)

 

[sebaas000]

yeah but his cheekbones are still recessed i can tell
he could get fillers tho they mog for cheekbones (many will rage at me and say implants mog but i made a thread abt it, fillers are good)
for eye surgery, he needs to go see taban or some eye expert in his league

yes you're right, do you think the MSE will help with my cheekbones?

 

[Mugwump]

yes you're right, do you think the MSE will help with my cheekbones?

yeah itll help but mse also widens the nose and mouths so keep that in mind
look at ronald eads results his cheekbones increased
but his mouth and nose became huge