HeightCopers, Gymcopers just stop

[sensen]

Stop with the clavicle lengthening, leg lengthening, wrist coping fucking nonsense.
In my prime sexual state, I was 5'9, and weighed 130 pounds. I was never the tallest friend, I was usually always the skinniest. I did well because face. Period. There's no other reason. I was uninteresting, uninspired, under fucking whelming, but because I looked good in face and had style, I fucked on a consistent basis, pretty much my choice of women. I dated 5'11 signed fashion model.

Let me say that again, FACE ALONE got me a model who was 2 inches taller than me.

Best part? I would not say I had Chad tier face in prime. Maybe chad lite. Just fucking look good, and try. Fuck.

I'm a nobody bruh, I just wasn't autistic and I had a good face.

 

[Deleted member 39]

At what age? 5'9, good face and NT behavior can get someone amazing results among teen girls. In the adult world however, I actually think size plays a much more significant role.

 

[sensen]

At what age? 5'9, good face and NT behavior can get someone amazing results among teen girls. In the adult world however, I actually think size plays a much more significant role.

Well, I'm about 50% through preparing myself for re-entering the dating market. Should be clubbing, bar hopping, tindering etc in Spring so we're gonna find out because I'm still a skinny fuck.

It was late teens, early 20s

 

[Deleted member 5927]

in conclusion OP is sad about being manlet and wants the focus to return to face so he feels ok

 

[sensen]

in conclusion OP is sad about being manlet and wants the focus to return to face so he feels ok

If 5'9 is manlet, I would have never known considering the sheer amount of women I've been with.

This is no cope, this is no brag, this is just what I've felt.

 

[toth77]

Shit thread kys

 

[Mouthbreath]

If 5'9 is manlet, I would have never known considering the sheer amount of women I've been with.

This is no cope, this is no brag, this is just what I've felt.

where do you live?

 

[Deleted member 9003]

You would of done better if you were taller

 

[sensen]

You would of done better if you were taller

Absolutely, but I did well enough to not feel left out. Far more than well enough.

 

[sensen]

where do you live?

US

 

[Deleted member 11035]

Shit thread kys

Agreed.

What works for you @sensen might not work or apply to others. Sure if you're below 4psl or chad working out doesn't matter. But most dudes are around 4-5 PSL so at that range lifting and frame can be the difference between betabux and a loving relationship with a non-landwhale partner

 

[sensen]

Agreed. What works for you might not work or apply to others. Sure if you're below 4psl or chad working out doesn't matter. But most dudes are around 4-5 PSL so at that range lifting and frame can make a big difference.

I'm not Chad, most probably put me at 5-5.5

Make no mistake, height and frame could have helped, but I didn't NEED it. And I still did phenomenal.

 

[Deleted member 11035]

I'm not Chad, most probably put me at 5-5.5

Make no mistake, height and frame could have helped, but I didn't NEED it. And I still did phenomenal.

5.5 is chadlite levels (which is enough to be chad in most environments) and if you're white and low inhib that's prob enough to slay.

 

[sensen]

5.5 is chadlite levels (which is enough to be chad in most environments) and if you're white and low inhib that's prob enough to slay.

I would never call myself low inhib. I've always been a bit awkward and very self aware. I was just able to move past it occasionally. Most girls I met were through wingmen or online. I hate rejection.

 

[Deusmaximus]

How old are you now, and what kind of results are you getting?
Agepill hit you so hard??

 

[sensen]

How old are you now, and what kind of results are you getting?
Agepill hit you so hard??

Agepill hit me especially hard because I'm just now coming out of a 5 year torture chamber of the mind. Lots of mental illness, wasted time etc..

But at 27, I still feel what I said is relevant. Maybe not as much as when I was 20, but it can't be looked over.

I just got out of an engagement that has lasted my entire mental spiral so I wouldn't know. But my looksmax elevation will be complete in about 2 or 3 weeks and I'm headed back out, and I plan on logging EVERY fucking detail and putting it here.

 

[JustBeCurry]

just be white average height and chadlite theory

 

[mogstar]

Shit thread didn’t read

 

[GymcelDoomer]

shut up bitch ur not gonna kill my gains. not corona not u not anyone

 

[Deusmaximus]

just be white average height and chadlite theory

Don't forget that when he was 20, tinder was a very small company and just in the very beginning. Also Instagram was not there. So girls had a very small vision of how a attractive guy looks, and Chads where also not that easy available with one swipe. It was all about social circle and going out meeting girls. The girls now all have their phone full of Chads ready to fuck them. So why should they interact with some random average guy from the club or social circle.

 

[sensen]

Don't forget that when he was 20, tinder was a very small company and just in the very beginning. Also Instagram was not there. So girls had a very small vision of how a attractive guy looks, and Chads where also not that easy available with one swipe. It was all about social circle and going out meeting girls. The girls now all have their phone full of Chads ready to fuck them. So why should they interact with some random average guy from the club or social circle.

Because you're there. If you have established yourself in and around multiple social circles, you are an easy fuck for girls. The way you treat them after that easy fuck changes how they and their female friends respond to you in the future. If you're not a complete pussy, and understand the basics of keeping women interested, then you'll still do fine in these situations. Sure, the market is fucked, but you can still get in and do damage if you have decent faceand know what youre doing.

 

[Deusmaximus]

Because you're there. If you have established yourself in and around multiple social circles, you are an easy fuck for girls. The way you treat them after that easy fuck changes how they and their female friends respond to you in the future. If you're not a complete pussy, and understand the basics of keeping women interested, then you'll still do fine in these situations. Sure, the market is fucked, but you can still get in and do damage if you have decent faceand know what youre doing.

Problem is that around your age, there is no real party social circle anymore. It's not easy to fit in, after 25.

 

[sensen]

Problem is that around your age, there is no real party social circle anymore. It's not easy to fit in, after 25.

club, bar, approach.

I actually believe that older zoomer men are so pissed off and retarded that they usually don't party in high numbers at all, so the young milennialsget to swoop in and take the women.

 

[Deleted member 11035]

Because you're there. If you have established yourself in and around multiple social circles, you are an easy fuck for girls. The way you treat them after that easy fuck changes how they and their female friends respond to you in the future. If you're not a complete pussy, and understand the basics of keeping women interested, then you'll still do fine in these situations. Sure, the market is fucked, but you can still get in and do damage if you have decent faceand know what youre doing.

Kinda agree with this. Problem is that the men on looksmax are way too neurotic for shit like this. But you gotta be at least a normie with maxed out body for this to work or a HTN if you're ethnic.

 

[sensen]

Kinda agree with this. Problem is that the men on looksmax are way too neurotic for shit like this. But you gotta be at least a normie with maxed out body for this to work or a HTN if you're ethnic.

maybe, but this is before I ever started lifting and getting anything out of my body. Again though, i think im higher than normie facially so idk.

 

[Deleted member 11035]

maybe, but this is before I ever started lifting and getting anything out of my body. Again though, i think im higher than normie facially so idk.

You're chadlite trust me people on this site rate way too hard

 

[sensen]

You're chadlite trust me people on this site rate way too hard

Literally. Too much variance. I've heard Chad from a few, I've heard low tier normie from even more. Pretty retarded.

 

[Deleted member 11035]

Literally. Too much variance. I've heard Chad from a few, I've heard low tier normie from even more. Pretty retarded.

This site is kinda retarded honestly except for some of the good advice about surgeries and skincare and some quality rates by good users who don't troll.

 

[oatmeal]

Literally. Too much variance. I've heard Chad from a few, I've heard low tier normie from even more. Pretty retarded.

if im being honest, it depends a lot on who you are asking and if you have beef with them.

 

[sensen]

if im being honest, it depends a lot on who you are asking and if you have beef with them.

yeah, i don't even know who is who on this site. I've probably called someone a retarded larping fvggot on one post then literally told them they're awesome like 45 minutes later.

 

[ChestBrah]

If 5'9 is manlet, I would have never known considering the sheer amount of women I've been with.

This is no cope, this is no brag, this is just what I've felt.

5'9 isnt manlet in usa

im 177cm almost 5'10 in shoes and always feel average

 

[recessed]

At what age? 5'9, good face and NT behavior can get someone amazing results among teen girls. In the adult world however, I actually think size plays a much more significant role.

Its only because most adults dont take care of their looks. You can lose a great looking face if you dont take care of yourself but you cant lose height or clavicle length

 

[Deleted member 1588]

Yeah frame is cope but you are basically average height and above average facially as u say so no shit u slayed ..

 

[recessed]

Literally. Too much variance. I've heard Chad from a few, I've heard low tier normie from even more. Pretty retarded.

Is that you in your avi?

 

[sensen]

Is that you in your avi?

yes, really young tho

 

[sensen]

5'9 isnt manlet in usa

im 177cm almost 5'10 in shoes and always feel average

Agree, 5'6 is manlet imo. 5'7 is barely cutoff

 

[forwardgrowth]

most people can't max to chadelite facially, roiding and lifts are basically mandatory in 2020

 

[Deleted member 6908]

Stop with the clavicle lengthening, leg lengthening, wrist coping fucking nonsense.
In my prime sexual state, I was 5'9, and weighed 130 pounds. I was never the tallest friend, I was usually always the skinniest. I did well because face. Period. There's no other reason. I was uninteresting, uninspired, under fucking whelming, but because I looked good in face and had style, I fucked on a consistent basis, pretty much my choice of women. I dated 5'11 signed fashion model.

Let me say that again, FACE ALONE got me a model who was 2 inches taller than me.

Best part? I would not say I had Chad tier face in prime. Maybe chad lite. Just fucking look good, and try. Fuck.

I'm a nobody bruh, I just wasn't autistic and I had a good face.

This is just so low IQ bro and I'll tell you why.

Do you realise how many people slay because of stature and frame? Yet don't have the face you did? Do you? Lmao. Yes, you're right. May be these guys had to have a bit of charisma/personality about them and not be uninteresting no marks with zero conversation skill, but their BASE is their frame and their height. Sexual dimorphism is the key to getting laid on a regular basis. Unless you are 8+/10 in the looks department.

I don't think this. I know this.

You can't expect all of these guys on here to surgery max their ways to 8+/10. You just can't. So what you're saying is actually terrible advice as it's not possible. From your own personal self serving perspective, you did well because you had face on-point and you're right, face is king as long as you're not terribly small, but if you're between 4 and 7 out of 10 then height and frame matters a lot more than you realise.

Height and frame you can change. Just like you can change face. Fact of the matter is if you have charisma/personality then being taller is better for you imo, as it lays the platform for you to be able to impress her and you can boss proceedings without as many shit-tests. I am not disagreeing with you, but what you're saying to all these guys who some are below 4/10 is surgery max your way to 8+ and it is just not possible.

 

[sensen]

This is just so low IQ bro and I'll tell you why.

Do you realise how many people slay because of stature and frame? Yet don't have the face you did? Do you? Lmao. Yes, you're right. May be these guys had to have a bit of charisma/personality about them and not be uninteresting no marks with zero conversation skill, but their BASE is their frame and their height. Sexual dimorphism is the key to getting laid on a regular basis. Unless you are 8+/10 in the looks department.

I don't think this. I know this.

You can't expect all of these guys on here to surgery max their ways to 8+/10. You just can't. So what you're saying is actually terrible advice as it's not possible. From your own personal self serving perspective, you did well because you had face on-point and you're right, face is king as long as you're not terribly small, but if you're between 4 and 7 out of 10 then height and frame matters a lot more than you realise.

Height and frame you can change. Just like you can change face. Fact of the matter is if you have charisma/personality then being taller is better for you imo, as it lays the platform for you to be able to impress her and you can boss proceedings without as many shit-tests. I am not disagreeing with you, but what you're saying to all these guys who some are below 4/10 is surgery max your way to 8+ and it is just not possible.

This thread was made for people with decent to good face with shit everything else.

obviously 6'4 mogger doesnt need picturesque face to slay. This is for people who are 5'7,with a halfway good face who think they need some retarded leg lengthening surgery to leave their house without their head in their hands.

I pretty much agree with everything you said, I just think you're looking at what im saying from the wrong angle.

 

[Deleted member 6908]

This thread was made for people with decent to good face with shit everything else.

obviously 6'4 mogger doesnt need picturesque face to slay. This is for people who are 5'7,with a halfway good face who think they need some retarded leg lengthening surgery to leave their house without their head in their hands.

I pretty much agree with everything you said, I just think you're looking at what im saying from the wrong angle.

Sorry where was it said this was made for guys with decent to good faces? (5 to 7/10) ??? You clearly remarked on your experience and gave credence to you being either a Chad or a Chad-lite. Chad-lite is 7.5/10. It's also not decent.

I am 5'8 with half-good face and have done ok despite a lack of stature and shit, but I am also 28 and when I was in Uni/College dating apps were only just arriving on the scene. Now a days girls have far many more options. Leg lengthening is a crazy procedure that only the really dedicated, determined and committed should pursue. I am one of those and so I agree with you on that.

You didn't state this applied to normie tho bro and tbh it kind of doesn't, as the evidence you gave was yourself doing well as a Chad-lite.

What is your body count btw? And how old are you now?

 

[sensen]

Sorry where was it said this was made for guys with decent to good faces? (5 to 7/10) ??? You clearly remarked on your experience and gave credence to you being either a Chad or a Chad-lite. Chad-lite is 7.5/10. It's also not decent.

I am 5'8 with half-good face and have done ok despite a lack of stature and shit, but I am also 28 and when I was in Uni/College dating apps were only just arriving on the scene. Now a days girls have far many more options. Leg lengthening is a crazy procedure that only the really dedicated, determined and committed should pursue. I am one of those and so I agree with you on that.

You didn't state this applied to normie tho bro and tbh it kind of doesn't, as the evidence you gave was yourself doing well as a Chad-lite.

What is your body count btw? And how old are you now?

To be fair, I said my looks were MAYBE chadlite. I personally wouldn't even say that. Refer to first comment. I'd say high tier normie im im being completely honest with myself.

I know things are different, but that's why I said im about to put myself back out in that world and log my progress. Gaurentee I do just as well.

Body count around 40, stopped counting around half that. I'm 27.

 

[Deleted member 6908]

To be fair, I said my looks were MAYBE chadlite. I personally wouldn't even say that. Refer to first comment. I'd say high tier normie im im being completely honest with myself.

I know things are different, but that's why I said im about to put myself back out in that world and log my progress. Gaurentee I do just as well.

Body count around 40, stopped counting around half that. I'm 27.

Able to post face from back then and also now?

 

[ShineBright]

 

[193-203cm]

This idiot needs to stop polluting this forum.

 

[Deleted member 7098]

Stop with the clavicle lengthening, leg lengthening, wrist coping fucking nonsense.
In my prime sexual state, I was 5'9, and weighed 130 pounds. I was never the tallest friend, I was usually always the skinniest. I did well because face. Period. There's no other reason. I was uninteresting, uninspired, under fucking whelming, but because I looked good in face and had style, I fucked on a consistent basis, pretty much my choice of women. I dated 5'11 signed fashion model.

Let me say that again, FACE ALONE got me a model who was 2 inches taller than me.

Best part? I would not say I had Chad tier face in prime. Maybe chad lite. Just fucking look good, and try. Fuck.

I'm a nobody bruh, I just wasn't autistic and I had a good face.

literally same, same weight, similar height, and never struggled with girls in my late teens, early 20s, literally the best time to slay hot JBs

now in mid 20s you need a masc body though

At what age? 5'9, good face and NT behavior can get someone amazing results among teen girls. In the adult world however, I actually think size plays a much more significant role.

exactly

 

[Deleted member 5292]

.

 

[Deleted member 5292]

literally same, same weight, similar height, and never struggled with girls in my late teens, early 20s, literally the best time to slay hot JBs

now in mid 20s you need a masc body though


exactly

early 20s is goat age to slay. I am 31 and look at 20 at most but my state of mind is fucked up.

 

[Deleted member 5292]

yes, really young tho

aside from acne and giga pale skin you were high chadlite tier. Water is wet.

 

[Mastermind]

I believe you OP it's a well known fact face is everything tho

 

[NorwoodStyle]

Leg lenghtening is legit and not retarded anymore. New Stryde technique is safer than what used to be done. You just need 100k+ to do it with Paley. 200k+ if you're turbomanlet. Just be rich theory.
Only downside is being bedridden for 4-6 months. That's not a big change if you're full-time rotter.

Face > Height, but height is way too important to be overlooked. Sub 6'0 looksmaxxers should totally consider LL if they have the shekels.