Heightmaxxing : bone age of 14-15 - protocol request + MK-677 / AI / peptides questions

Никола Тесла

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Hey everyone 👋, I've been lurking for a while and finally decided to post because my situation is somewhat unique. Would love to hear from guys who've gone deep into height maxxing, especially around GH secretagogues, aromatase inhibitors, and training protocols for someone who still has open growth plates.


MY SITUATION :

- Legal age: 18 | Bone age: ~14–15 (confirmed by wrist X-ray a few weeks ago)
- Current height: 172 cm | Target: 180 cm minimum, ideally 185 cm (yes... I know that ambitious)
- 62 kg
- Constitutional growth delay — my endo and GP refuse to prescribe GH ("takes too long," "not indicated", it makes me upset)
- Currently finishing a Accutan (isotretinoin) course: 5 months at 30 mg (then, 3 months break, but sebum reappeared, so I went to a dermatologist who gave me one last time Accutan to reach the recommended medical dose) → 1 month at 40 mg → now at 50 mg (just switched ~1 month ago)
- I'm aware isotretinoin may affect growth, which is why I feel urgency to act while plates are still open
- Goal : maximize height growth AND reduce water retention / facial bloat simultaneously (because I also wanna looksmax). But the Main goal is Heightmaxxing.



PROTOCOL REQUEST :

Given my profile above, what complete protocol would you personally put in place if you were me right now? I'm open to everything - supplements, peptides, secretagogues, lifestyle, training adjustments. Please be specific (doses, timing, combinations). Also open to advices...


SPECIFIC QUESTIONS (boring... so if you want to skip answering, I could understand) :

1. Is MK-677 (ibutamoren) actually effective for height gain when growth plates are still open? What dose do you recommend, and when should I take it? Is there any interference with isotretinoin / Curakne in terms of liver load or otherwise?

2. How does MK-677 compare to Ipamorelin (nasal spray) and CJC-1295 no-DAC in terms of effectiveness for height? Is stacking them worth it, or does one dominate the others? Which combination gives the best IGF-1 response?

3. I've heard that combining MK-677 with an AI could significantly boost height by slowing epiphyseal closure. How true is this? Is this the most powerful stack available for height, and what AI would you use? Does MK alone give decent results or is the AI really necessary?

4. MK-677's water retention is a known downside. Are there ways to mitigate it (e.g. potassium, dandelion root, timing adjustments)? Is there any GH-boosting compound with similar IGF-1 upside but less bloat?

5. For someone still growing, is there a meaningful trade-off between training for skeletal width (e.g. wide grip pull-ups for lat/clavicle development) and maximizing height? What does the looksmax community generally recommend in terms of training frequency, exercise selection, and loading for someone prioritizing vertical growth?

6. Which of the following are safe to continue on isotretinoin: zinc (25 mg), magnesium glycinate, vitamin D3 + K2, creatine, ashwagandha? Any that should be avoided? I'm currently taking D3 25 µg + K2 45 µg — is that enough to support growth, or should I dose higher?

7.Raw milk vs. pasteurized : does it make a real difference for growth? Full-fat vs. semi-skimmed? How much dairy per day would you target? Any other dietary levers worth pulling?



CURRENT STACK (FYI ; also open to some changes or advices) :

- Zinc 25 mg (morning, without food)
- Magnesium glycinate (before going to bed)
- Vitamin D3 25 µg + K2 45 µg (morning without food, I take 12 pills)
- Creatine 5 g/day
- Dandelion root (for bloat)
- Potassium citrate
- Hydration: ~3 L/day
- Training (hard): 5x/week (questioning myself about training... bad or good for growth)



Many thanks in advance to anyone who takes the time to reply seriously. Happy to share bloodwork results if that helps.
 
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mk is water j do gh

also ur 18 with bone age of 14? did you develop later than ur peers. im 18 too on gh but never checked bone age or plates but developed late
 
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also ure 'current stack' is micros and vitamins. nothing ur currently doing is gonna help u at all for ur goals, ur just being healthy

mk and cjc wont either. do high dose gh and thats it
 
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Hey everyone 👋, I've been lurking for a while and finally decided to post because my situation is somewhat unique. Would love to hear from guys who've gone deep into height maxxing, especially around GH secretagogues, aromatase inhibitors, and training protocols for someone who still has open growth plates.


MY SITUATION :

- Legal age: 18 | Bone age: ~14–15 (confirmed by wrist X-ray a few weeks ago)
- Current height: 172 cm | Target: 180 cm minimum, ideally 185 cm (yes... I know that ambitious)
- 62 kg
- Constitutional growth delay — my endo and GP refuse to prescribe GH ("takes too long," "not indicated", it makes me upset)
- Currently finishing a Accutan (isotretinoin) course: 5 months at 30 mg (then, 3 months break, but sebum reappeared, so I went to a dermatologist who gave me one last time Accutan to reach the recommended medical dose) → 1 month at 40 mg → now at 50 mg (just switched ~1 month ago)
- I'm aware isotretinoin may affect growth, which is why I feel urgency to act while plates are still open
- Goal : maximize height growth AND reduce water retention / facial bloat simultaneously (because I also wanna looksmax). But the Main goal is Heightmaxxing.



PROTOCOL REQUEST :

Given my profile above, what complete protocol would you personally put in place if you were me right now? I'm open to everything - supplements, peptides, secretagogues, lifestyle, training adjustments. Please be specific (doses, timing, combinations). Also open to advices...


SPECIFIC QUESTIONS (boring... so if you want to skip answering, I could understand) :

1. Is MK-677 (ibutamoren) actually effective for height gain when growth plates are still open? What dose do you recommend, and when should I take it? Is there any interference with isotretinoin / Curakne in terms of liver load or otherwise?

2. How does MK-677 compare to Ipamorelin (nasal spray) and CJC-1295 no-DAC in terms of effectiveness for height? Is stacking them worth it, or does one dominate the others? Which combination gives the best IGF-1 response?

3. I've heard that combining MK-677 with an AI could significantly boost height by slowing epiphyseal closure. How true is this? Is this the most powerful stack available for height, and what AI would you use? Does MK alone give decent results or is the AI really necessary?

4. MK-677's water retention is a known downside. Are there ways to mitigate it (e.g. potassium, dandelion root, timing adjustments)? Is there any GH-boosting compound with similar IGF-1 upside but less bloat?

5. For someone still growing, is there a meaningful trade-off between training for skeletal width (e.g. wide grip pull-ups for lat/clavicle development) and maximizing height? What does the looksmax community generally recommend in terms of training frequency, exercise selection, and loading for someone prioritizing vertical growth?

6. Which of the following are safe to continue on isotretinoin: zinc (25 mg), magnesium glycinate, vitamin D3 + K2, creatine, ashwagandha? Any that should be avoided? I'm currently taking D3 25 µg + K2 45 µg — is that enough to support growth, or should I dose higher?

7.Raw milk vs. pasteurized : does it make a real difference for growth? Full-fat vs. semi-skimmed? How much dairy per day would you target? Any other dietary levers worth pulling?



CURRENT STACK (FYI ; also open to some changes or advices) :

- Zinc 25 mg (morning, without food)
- Magnesium glycinate (before going to bed)
- Vitamin D3 25 µg + K2 45 µg (morning without food, I take 12 pills)
- Creatine 5 g/day
- Dandelion root (for bloat)
- Potassium citrate
- Hydration: ~3 L/day
- Training (hard): 5x/week (questioning myself about training... bad or good for growth)



Many thanks in advance to anyone who takes the time to reply seriously. Happy to share bloodwork results if that helps.
damn BA 14 at 18 ur so lucky also most of those stuff is useless just run rhGH and letro and expand your stack meanwhile. its not worth spending so much money on secretagogues when u can buy rhGH
 
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Do HGH igf1 lr3 tetosterone and a mild aromatise inhibitor don’t crash e2 cuz then ur brain won’t develop run as much gh as possibly and titrate up from 300 to 500 test 50 mcg igf1 lr3 a day 5 days on 2 off for 6 weeks then 4 weeks of, get bloods done and y should be able to run the test and gh Indefiantly if ur bloods are good
 
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mk is water j do gh

also ur 18 with bone age of 14? did you develop later than ur peers. im 18 too on gh but never checked bone age or plates but developed late
Yes, I did (later development) But i m not on gh… and GH is too expensive for me
 
Hey everyone 👋, I've been lurking for a while and finally decided to post because my situation is somewhat unique. Would love to hear from guys who've gone deep into height maxxing, especially around GH secretagogues, aromatase inhibitors, and training protocols for someone who still has open growth plates.


MY SITUATION :

- Legal age: 18 | Bone age: ~14–15 (confirmed by wrist X-ray a few weeks ago)
- Current height: 172 cm | Target: 180 cm minimum, ideally 185 cm (yes... I know that ambitious)
- 62 kg
- Constitutional growth delay — my endo and GP refuse to prescribe GH ("takes too long," "not indicated", it makes me upset)
- Currently finishing a Accutan (isotretinoin) course: 5 months at 30 mg (then, 3 months break, but sebum reappeared, so I went to a dermatologist who gave me one last time Accutan to reach the recommended medical dose) → 1 month at 40 mg → now at 50 mg (just switched ~1 month ago)
- I'm aware isotretinoin may affect growth, which is why I feel urgency to act while plates are still open
- Goal : maximize height growth AND reduce water retention / facial bloat simultaneously (because I also wanna looksmax). But the Main goal is Heightmaxxing.



PROTOCOL REQUEST :

Given my profile above, what complete protocol would you personally put in place if you were me right now? I'm open to everything - supplements, peptides, secretagogues, lifestyle, training adjustments. Please be specific (doses, timing, combinations). Also open to advices...


SPECIFIC QUESTIONS (boring... so if you want to skip answering, I could understand) :

1. Is MK-677 (ibutamoren) actually effective for height gain when growth plates are still open? What dose do you recommend, and when should I take it? Is there any interference with isotretinoin / Curakne in terms of liver load or otherwise?

2. How does MK-677 compare to Ipamorelin (nasal spray) and CJC-1295 no-DAC in terms of effectiveness for height? Is stacking them worth it, or does one dominate the others? Which combination gives the best IGF-1 response?

3. I've heard that combining MK-677 with an AI could significantly boost height by slowing epiphyseal closure. How true is this? Is this the most powerful stack available for height, and what AI would you use? Does MK alone give decent results or is the AI really necessary?

4. MK-677's water retention is a known downside. Are there ways to mitigate it (e.g. potassium, dandelion root, timing adjustments)? Is there any GH-boosting compound with similar IGF-1 upside but less bloat?

5. For someone still growing, is there a meaningful trade-off between training for skeletal width (e.g. wide grip pull-ups for lat/clavicle development) and maximizing height? What does the looksmax community generally recommend in terms of training frequency, exercise selection, and loading for someone prioritizing vertical growth?

6. Which of the following are safe to continue on isotretinoin: zinc (25 mg), magnesium glycinate, vitamin D3 + K2, creatine, ashwagandha? Any that should be avoided? I'm currently taking D3 25 µg + K2 45 µg — is that enough to support growth, or should I dose higher?

7.Raw milk vs. pasteurized : does it make a real difference for growth? Full-fat vs. semi-skimmed? How much dairy per day would you target? Any other dietary levers worth pulling?



CURRENT STACK (FYI ; also open to some changes or advices) :

- Zinc 25 mg (morning, without food)
- Magnesium glycinate (before going to bed)
- Vitamin D3 25 µg + K2 45 µg (morning without food, I take 12 pills)
- Creatine 5 g/day
- Dandelion root (for bloat)
- Potassium citrate
- Hydration: ~3 L/day
- Training (hard): 5x/week (questioning myself about training... bad or good for growth)



Many thanks in advance to anyone who takes the time to reply seriously. Happy to share bloodwork results if that helps.
Add lactoferrin + vitamin c, only add vitamin c if ur not eating 2-3 oranges a day
 
Yes, I did (later development) But i m not on gh… and GH is too expensive for me
well thats ur only chance really bro ill be honest. ur talking ab water intake, vitamins and cjc

none of that is gonna grow you, you need to find the money for 8ius hgh a day or else just hope u grow naturally
 
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also ure 'current stack' is micros and vitamins. nothing ur currently doing is gonna help u at all for ur goals, ur just being healthy

mk and cjc wont either. do high dose gh and thats it
I see… ok I will go on GH, do you know where I can buy it ? (Europe delivery…)
I will manage to find money.
 
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damn BA 14 at 18 ur so lucky also most of those stuff is useless just run rhGH and letro and expand your stack meanwhile. its not worth spending so much money on secretagogues when u can buy rhGH
I m lucky… but I m also on Accutan (could stop growth bone). Anyway, so if I correctly understood, you said to me to buy rhGH + letrozole and stop taking/buying all my supplements ?
 
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well thats ur only chance really bro ill be honest. ur talking ab water intake, vitamins and cjc

none of that is gonna grow you, you need to find the money for 8ius hgh a day or else just hope u grow naturally
Thanks for your advice, I take it carefully and I’ll go with GH
 
way too overpriced. 1000IU costs $360-400
I’m talking from pharma tho if u go grey defiantly just in eu there’s a better change of getting caught in customs and in my country they do prosecute so I keep it eu if u were to buy it
 
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I m lucky… but I m also on Accutan (could stop growth bone). Anyway, so if I correctly understood, you said to me to buy rhGH + letrozole and stop taking/buying all my supplements ?
yeah stop taking accutane if possible or take 20mg max cuz it can prematurely ossify your growth playes
 
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I’m talking from pharma tho if u go grey defiantly just in eu there’s a better change of getting caught in customs and in my country they do prosecute so I keep it eu if u were to buy it
most chinese sources offer reshipment
 
yeah stop taking accutane if possible or take 20mg max cuz it can prematurely ossify your growth playes
but my dermatologist said to take the 50 mg daily to kick out all the cysts and other bits of gunk I’ve got under my skin.
My traitment ends in 3 weeks (but the X ray was 1 month ago)
 
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