Help for over-thinkers and an explanation

[Norwooder]

Coming from someone who has ascended to normal to above average looking, over-thinking comes primarily from being a sub-5-left out male.
From an early age you were left out due to your face (genetics) which made you see life as a puzzle that you needed to work out and/or solve.
You would try consistently through your whole teen years to be ‘more confident’ or ‘try harder at sports’ or ‘try to earn respect’ with people, but the catch was that your methods never worked and you never ended up gaining respect with fellow peers or getting girls because the true reason you were failing with everything was because of your subhumanity.
This lead you to overthink everything, whilst everyone was living normally in their childhood and gaining confidence and friendship circles easily you saw life as a puzzle that needed to be solved by ‘ACTING more confident’ or ‘trying harder’ but obviously it never worked. This brings me to another point, your face is your life, all throughout school you would see chad thriving and building confidence whilst incels would be stuck in the mental health room and being told that ‘being different is okay’ but it’s not. Now that I have ascended to decent looking and grown a head taller since school (hypogonadism) I feel completely comfortable in myself because I am now ‘VALIDATED’ wherever I go. My overthinking literally completely went away once I started having sex and great positive interactions with people. I coulD BE MYSELF becuase I was no longer ugly.

tldr; your face is your life, ugly people get mental illness and overthinking from veing excluded by their peers, your overthinking will probably cease to exist once you ascend and have sex and good social interactions

 

[Dogs]

Maybe there's some truth to this but no. There are overthinking chads as well.

 

[chadison]

Agree. This was even worse for me because I didn't know of the blackpill till a little over a year ago and I have a very high IQ (99th percentile, 131-132). So what happened was people would get pissed off since I shouldn't have been succeeding in school based on my 3.5/10 looks. As a result, I became a validation whore and received only the smallest amount of it compared to GL early bloomers in HS. Now that I realize this, however, and my body is finally maturing, I am finally starting to switch to my own mental point of origin. I do feel cheated out of a good childhood though.

 

[chadison]

Maybe there's some truth to this but no. There are overthinking chads as well.

This is true, however note the congruency I mentioned about how ugly people aren't supposed to succeed, and gl people are.

 

[6ft4]

I'm happy you ascended from that lefort
How much more validation do you get from girls now?

 

[IWantToMax]

A slayer friend of mine who:
-Last party he went to he fucked a girl after 5 minutes he met her (meanwhile a guy that was trying to pick her up for years got crazy at my friend)
-3 Years ago, he was like 17 or something we went to a party and he legit kissed a different girl every couple minutes (like 15 girl in total)

Started crying last summer while drunk saying he looked bad.
Poor boyo

 

[Need2Ascend]

Very true, when you are/become good looking everything else follows (social circle, girls, positive daily interactions, feeling good, good neurotransmitters, more extroverted, ...)

 

[Norwooder]

Very true, when you are/become good looking everything else follows (social circle, girls, positive daily interactions, feeling good, good neurotransmitters, more extroverted, ...)

Completely, everything comes together. Growing up as a subhuman is the most terrible train of life experiences ever

 

[StressShady]

Coming from someone who has ascended to normal to above average looking

How?

 

[kuroganeikki]

Just don't think theory

 

[Deleted member 11167]

Legit advice ngl.

 

[machinemoggingchad]

A slayer friend of mine who:
-Last party he went to he fucked a girl after 5 minutes he met her (meanwhile a guy that was trying to pick her up for years got crazy at my friend)
-3 Years ago, he was like 17 or something we went to a party and he legit kissed a different girl every couple minutes (like 15 girl in total)

Started crying last summer while drunk saying he looked bad.
Poor boyo

good lookin ppl have a different interpretation of depression

 

[IWantToMax]

good lookin ppl have a different interpretation of depression

What do you mean?

 

[machinemoggingchad]

What do you mean?

forget what i said my brain is foggy af. idk why i typed tht

 

[Madhate]

Just don't think theory

lol this is unironically true
the moment you start overthinking its over for you
chad doesn't think (not kidding)
just say what you want and don't give a shit

 

[eduardkoopman]

Coming from someone who has ascended to normal to above average looking, over-thinking comes primarily from being a sub-5-left out male.

Legit.
When not good looking, constantly need to think about ways to yester your way into stuff. Because you just being there, is not enough
When you are better/good looking. You just being somewhere is enough. You pressence satisfies the envirinment. So you you don't need to think and worry about yestering.

 

[Deleted member 4301]

Maybe there's some truth to this but no. There are overthinking chads as well.

I went from a good looking kid to ugly during puberty and I can tell you it's more true than these white pill "looks aren't actually everything" kikes will tell you.

 

[CeeJay]

Legit.
When not good looking, constantly need to think about ways to yester your way into stuff. Because you just being there, is not enough
When you are better/good looking. You just being somewhere is enough. You pressence satisfies the envirinment. So you you don't need to think and worry about yestering.

Yes the entire concept of game hinges on the person knowing they aren't good enough, and therefore trying to find tricks to make themselves good enough... Which is ironically the opposite of confidence... And as a result they are stuck in an eternal negative feedback loop.

You absolutely cannot believe you are self confident when your interactions with other people rely on hiding your true self out of fear the person will leave in disgust.

100 bootcamps later and they're still doing no better than they would without. But you know the decent looking guys or guys with low standards get the results anyone would expect, and then believe game is miraculous.

It was a clever scam.

Attractive people have a positive feedback loop, they don't have to play verbal chess because they are accepted. There's actually no way around looks but people try to find loopholes when they're fucked.

 

[Madhate]

Yes the entire concept of game hinges on the person knowing they aren't good enough, and therefore trying to find tricks to make themselves good enough... Which is ironically the opposite of confidence... And as a result they are stuck in an eternal negative feedback loop.

You absolutely cannot believe you are self confident when your interactions with other people rely on hiding your true self out of fear the person will leave in disgust.

100 bootcamps later and they're still doing no better than they would without. But you know the decent looking guys or guys with low standards get the results anyone would expect, and then believe game is miraculous.

It was a clever scam.

Attractive people have a positive feedback loop, they don't have to play verbal chess because they are accepted. There's actually no way around looks but people try to find loopholes when they're fucked.

make your own positive feedback loop unironically
you can literally trick your brain into believing you are hot shit and you will have confidence
this works much better if you are low iq tho

 

[lasthope]

make your own positive feedback loop unironically
you can literally trick your brain into believing you are hot shit and you will have confidence
this works much better if you are low iq tho

is it legit tho? minimum psl for that?
i think i could reach 4.5 psl after surgeries

 

[eduardkoopman]

Yes the entire concept of game hinges on the person knowing they aren't good enough, and therefore trying to find tricks to make themselves good enough... Which is ironically the opposite of confidence... And as a result they are stuck in an eternal negative feedback loop.

You absolutely cannot believe you are self confident when your interactions with other people rely on hiding your true self out of fear the person will leave in disgust.

100 bootcamps later and they're still doing no better than they would without. But you know the decent looking guys or guys with low standards get the results anyone would expect, and then believe game is miraculous.

It was a clever scam.

Attractive people have a positive feedback loop, they don't have to play verbal chess because they are accepted. There's actually no way around looks but people try to find loopholes when they're fucked.

Love this, what you wrote.
Nail on the head.

When I read OP. I also saw it like this.
I was into pua (2005-2009); and was yestering because low tier normie to normie looks. Brutals. You just know. You "being you", is not good enough. No confidence boost, jsut performance anxiety and pressure.

This "game show", 2 episodes come to my mind. And says all above, as it is.
One guy, is Jestering, trying to hide himself, and entertain the women with props and with Jestering shit. Because he know (rightfully so), I'm not good enough.
And. the Other guy, is and knows he is good looking enough. And he is just there, and just being his own boring or even borderline dumb self. And it's more than enough.

 

[eduardkoopman]

make your own positive feedback loop unironically
you can literally trick your brain into believing you are hot shit and you will have confidence
this works much better if you are low iq tho

This never worked for me, and I tried alot. Even subliminals stuff, and so on.
But my iq to high, and the feedback from the world. overwrote my mental fooling and coping tactics.

 

[CeeJay]

This never worked for me, and I tried alot. Even subliminals stuff, and so on.
But my iq to high, and the feedback from the world. overwrote my mental fooling and coping tactics.

I don't believe it works for anybody. It's just like legitimately dumb or delusional people and they seem mentally ill.

We're programmed almost as hard as we are to fear death to fall in line with social feedback. Social judgement dictates to us our position in the social heirarchy and our brains do not want to allow us to break out of that, so inhibits itself massively.

 

[Norwooder]

Maybe there's some truth to this but no. There are overthinking chads as well.

A significantly less amount

 

[Deleted member 6186]

Your face, your fate.

Chad never needs to overthink coz he never has to doubt himself since everything has worked out for him.

 

[aspieSavage]

This is true people with little validation tend to overthink

 

[Madhate]

This never worked for me, and I tried alot. Even subliminals stuff, and so on.
But my iq to high, and the feedback from the world. overwrote my mental fooling and coping tactics.

Meditation + Working out (seeing progress) + socialising from anew (seeing people actually like you) + writing down that you WILL improve and telling yourself that every day + removing negative thoughts (thanks to meditation) + not watching shit like porn = win

 

[Deleted member 9819]

Maybe there's some truth to this but no. There are overthinking chads as well.

yeah, because they were normies during their childhood

 

[PYT]

make your own positive feedback loop unironically
you can literally trick your brain into believing you are hot shit and you will have confidence
this works much better if you are low iq tho

How do you do that?

 

[Deleted member 6403]

make your own positive feedback loop unironically
you can literally trick your brain into believing you are hot shit and you will have confidence
this works much better if you are low iq tho

Very true, positive feedback loops are everything

 

[Deleted member 6512]

Meditation + Working out (seeing progress) + socialising from anew (seeing people actually like you) + writing down that you WILL improve and telling yourself that every day + removing negative thoughts (thanks to meditation) + not watching shit like porn = win

Having sex = win