Help me add pct and fix my dosages of my first cycle HIGH IQCELS GTFIH

[susisesi]

Plan:
Test 500-700
HGH 3-6 ius
Anavar 25-50mg

8-12 weeks

Currently on:
900mg of NAC
2mg Reta
10mg Accutane


Mostly doing this blast for bone mineralization and moving orbitals forward.

Planning on taking finasteride and hcg but I have no knowledge on hcg and how It should be taken to not lose fertility. Also have no idea how to do pct is it just taking enclo after ? Also should I increase my accutane dose or add tret while blasting?


Is there any other supplement I should be taking to not fucking up my health markers and fertility?

 

[Insomnia]

Pct harms recovery

Mostly doing this blast for bone mineralization and moving orbitals forward.

 

[Hunter]

Pct harms recovery

yeah fr just do hcg and recover normally

Plan:
Test 500-700
HGH 3-6 ius
Anavar 25-50mg

8-12 weeks

Currently on:
900mg of NAC
2mg Reta
10mg Accutane


Mostly doing this blast for bone mineralization and moving orbitals forward.

Planning on taking finasteride and hcg but I have no knowledge on hcg and how It should be taken to not lose fertility. Also have no idea how to do pct is it just taking enclo after ? Also should I increase my accutane dose or add tret while blasting?


Is there any other supplement I should be taking to not fucking up my health markers and fertility?

why would you take 500-700 decide on a dose same with gh and anavar

 

[Hunter]

Plan:
Test 500-700
HGH 3-6 ius
Anavar 25-50mg

8-12 weeks

Currently on:
900mg of NAC
2mg Reta
10mg Accutane


Mostly doing this blast for bone mineralization and moving orbitals forward.

Planning on taking finasteride and hcg but I have no knowledge on hcg and how It should be taken to not lose fertility. Also have no idea how to do pct is it just taking enclo after ? Also should I increase my accutane dose or add tret while blasting?


Is there any other supplement I should be taking to not fucking up my health markers and fertility?

hcg is called the buman choronic gonadotropin hormone.
It helps maintain natural test levels by helping to produce leutenizing hormone whcih signals the testes to make testosterone

 

[7evenvox22]

decent base tbh. 500mg test is plenty for a first run, no need to push 700 it’ll just tank your lipids and aromatize harder. hcg: 250iu 2-3x per week during cycle, not post. that keeps your leydig cells active and helps recovery later. then pct is typically enclo 25mg ed for 4 weeks, or clomid 50/25/25/25 if you prefer that route. tret’s fine, just watch irritation. also add basics: fish oil, tudca (500mg), and maybe telmisartan for blood pressure/lipid support.

 

[susisesi]

decent base tbh. 500mg test is plenty for a first run, no need to push 700 it’ll just tank your lipids and aromatize harder. hcg: 250iu 2-3x per week during cycle, not post. that keeps your leydig cells active and helps recovery later. then pct is typically enclo 25mg ed for 4 weeks, or clomid 50/25/25/25 if you prefer that route. tret’s fine, just watch irritation. also add basics: fish oil, tudca (500mg), and maybe telmisartan for blood pressure/lipid support.

How should I use hgh and var during this? Should I start with 3 and 25 and increase later or just take 3 and 25 all the time?

 

[Deleted member 59162]

Plan:
Test 500-700
HGH 3-6 ius
Anavar 25-50mg

8-12 weeks

Currently on:
900mg of NAC
2mg Reta
10mg Accutane


Mostly doing this blast for bone mineralization and moving orbitals forward.

Planning on taking finasteride and hcg but I have no knowledge on hcg and how It should be taken to not lose fertility. Also have no idea how to do pct is it just taking enclo after ? Also should I increase my accutane dose or add tret while blasting?


Is there any other supplement I should be taking to not fucking up my health markers and fertility?

500 mg as first cycle is a braindead thing ngl,oxandrolone and accutane?nigger wants to kill his liver

 

[7evenvox22]

How should I use hgh and var during this? Should I start with 3 and 25 and increase later or just take 3 and 25 all the time?

take 8iu gh, as for var i’m personally running 50mg and it’s been solid.

 

[susisesi]

500 mg as first cycle is a braindead thing ngl,oxandrolone and accutane?nigger wants to kill his liver

what do you recomend?

 

[Deleted member 59162]

what do you recomend?

250 test e,anavar 30-40 mg(6 weeks optimal cuz high doses fucks ur liver) and tamoxifen as pct

 

[susisesi]

250 test e,anavar 30-40 mg(6 weeks optimal cuz high doses fucks ur liver) and tamoxifen as pct

What should I do with accutane can't really cut it after I have alr started taking it

 

[Deleted member 59162]

What should I do with accutane can't really cut it after I have alr started taking it

then cut oxandrolone

 

[Lisdex]

hcg is called the buman choronic gonadotropin hormone.
It helps maintain natural test levels by helping to produce leutenizing hormone whcih signals the testes to make testosterone

Yeah. It mimics LH, doesn’t produce it, just to be clear.

 

[Hunter]

Yeah. It mimics LH, doesn’t produce it, just to be clear.

they share the same receptor right?
My bad i didnt realise i said this also

 

[Deleted member 59162]

Yeah. It mimics LH, doesn’t produce it, just to be clear.

tamoxifen mogs ngl

 

[Lisdex]

they share the same receptor right?
My bad i didnt realise i said this also

Yes, both of them binds to the LH/choriogonadotropin receptor.
They share an identical alpha subunit and a similar beta subunit. hCG is a bit cooler though, since it has an extra glycosylation site on the beta subunit, which gives it the longer half-life

 

[Hunter]

Yes, both of them binds to the LH/choriogonadotropin receptor.
They share an identical alpha subunit and a similar beta subunit. hCG is a bit cooler though, since it has an extra glycosylation site on the beta subunit, which gives it the longer half-life

Wowieee
Hcg lowkey a vibe what a cool thing.
Lowkey gonna use hcg on cycle

 

[Chm]

Plan:
Test 500-700
HGH 3-6 ius
Anavar 25-50mg

8-12 weeks

Currently on:
900mg of NAC
2mg Reta
10mg Accutane


Mostly doing this blast for bone mineralization and moving orbitals forward.

Planning on taking finasteride and hcg but I have no knowledge on hcg and how It should be taken to not lose fertility. Also have no idea how to do pct is it just taking enclo after ? Also should I increase my accutane dose or add tret while blasting?


Is there any other supplement I should be taking to not fucking up my health markers and fertility?

dont bother with a PCT, the hormone fluctuations will give you more acne and mood swings, also crushing your hormones when you come off is counterproductive for gains, simply spend the money you would have spent on the enclo on 2 more vials of test and cruise 250mg a week after. only pct if you decide to totally come off

 

[h4temyself]

Plan:
Test 500-700

first cycle btw

how do u even come up with this numbers

also wtf is accutane with anavar u gonna kill ur liver nigga

 

[i cant lie cant lie]

Pct harms recovery

hopefully ur eliminating competition, pct is recovery

 

[i cant lie cant lie]

Plan:
Test 500-700
HGH 3-6 ius
Anavar 25-50mg

8-12 weeks

Currently on:
900mg of NAC
2mg Reta
10mg Accutane


Mostly doing this blast for bone mineralization and moving orbitals forward.

Planning on taking finasteride and hcg but I have no knowledge on hcg and how It should be taken to not lose fertility. Also have no idea how to do pct is it just taking enclo after ? Also should I increase my accutane dose or add tret while blasting?


Is there any other supplement I should be taking to not fucking up my health markers and fertility?

Doing too much at once bro take accutane later. but good idea to take reta it decreases liver fat making your liver not fuck up as bad

 

[Insomnia]

hopefully ur eliminating competition, pct is recovery

No, pct doesn’t help with recovery. Run hcg with your cycle

 

[Chm]

hopefully ur eliminating competition, pct is recovery

you are slow, pct more taxing than a cruise and ur not just doing one cycle anyways, why would you want to yoyo your natural production? makes more sense just to pct when ur ready to top off right? but you are 16 and shouldn't even be getting started yet

 

[BoneSmasher67]

Plan:
Test 500-700
HGH 3-6 ius
Anavar 25-50mg

8-12 weeks

Currently on:
900mg of NAC
2mg Reta
10mg Accutane


Mostly doing this blast for bone mineralization and moving orbitals forward.

Planning on taking finasteride and hcg but I have no knowledge on hcg and how It should be taken to not lose fertility. Also have no idea how to do pct is it just taking enclo after ? Also should I increase my accutane dose or add tret while blasting?


Is there any other supplement I should be taking to not fucking up my health markers and fertility?

your cycle plan for bone mineralization and pushing orbitals forward sounds smart if you're under 25, but 500-700mg Test + 6IU HGH + 50mg Anavar on your first run is straight-up suicide – way too much risk for liver crash, shutdown, and bloat. I've run similar stuff, so here's my take on tweaking the doses and adding PCT/HCG without nuking your fertility or markers. Bloods before, mid, and after are non-negotiable, or you're flying blind.

First off the doses – keep it to 10 weeks total so you don't shut down too hard. Focus on HGH's IGF-1 boost for the bones mixed with Test's androgen drive, but dial it back to see how your body handles it.

• Test E or C: Go 400-500mg per week, split into two pins (like Monday and Thursday, 200-250mg IM each with a 23G needle). Not 700, that aromatizes like crazy and spikes gyno risk, especially with fin.
• HGH: Start at 2-3IU a day subQ in the morning (fasted), ramp up to max 4IU after weeks 3-4 if no water retention or joint aches. 6IU is for vets, you'll just get insulin resistant. If HGH's pricey, try MK-677 10-20mg at night instead for the GH spike, but watch prolactin.
• Anavar: Kick it in from week 5-10, only 6 weeks, 20-40mg a day split AM/PM. 50mg kills the liver on a noob cycle, check enzymes halfway and quit 4 weeks before PCT to clear it. Drop it entirely if ALT/AST climbs.

Fertility side: Finasteride 1mg a day works for the hairline (might even help acne by crashing DHT), but it tanks DHT which is good for jaw/bone gains, so skip if you're not balding bad. Test hammers LH/FSH and shrinks the balls/sperm, so add HCG to keep the Leydig cells firing – it mimics LH and saves spermatogenesis.

• HCG on-cycle: 250-500IU twice a week (Monday/Thursday, subQ with an insulin needle) from week 3 to 10. Taper off 1-2 weeks before PCT so receptors don't desensitize. Keeps ~80% fertility, but get a semen analysis baseline before starting. Grab pharma HCG (not vet stuff), runs about 50 bucks a vial.

PCT: Kick it off week 12 (2 weeks after your last Test pin cuz of the ester). Enclo solo is basic as hell and won't cut it – you need a SERM stack + HCG to restart the HPTA, hold gains, and manage E2 rebound. Run this for 4 weeks, maybe stretch to 6 if bloods show low T.

• Clomid: 50mg a day weeks 12-13, then 25mg weeks 14-15.
• Nolva: 20mg a day the whole PCT (40mg if you're gyno-prone).
• HCG: 500IU every other day the first 2 weeks to wake up the balls.
• If E2's high (>30pg/ml from bloods): Aromasin 12.5mg every other day weeks 12-13.

Bloods at week 2 and 4 of PCT; if Test's under 300ng/dl, extend it. Throw in Ashwagandha 600mg and Fadogia 500mg after as a bridge. Wait at least 3 months before jumping into another cycle, or you're screwed long-term.

Accutane and tret: Your 10mg is low-dose maintenance, solid, but Test is gonna flare acne like crazy – don't bump to 20mg, that's toxic as fuck with Anavar, stick to 10-15mg and watch liver/lipids.

• Add tretinoin: 0.025% cream at night 3x a week, with moisturizer (like CeraVe) to dodge the purge. Niacinamide serum in the AM to balance the dryness from the andros. Stop Accutane 4 weeks before PCT for liver recovery. Bump your NAC to 1200mg split through the day; your 2mg Reta is fine for eyes.

Supps to not trash your health markers and fertility – bloods every 4 weeks, don't overload:

• Liver: TUDCA 250mg + Milk Thistle 500mg during Anavar (your NAC 900mg is good, but up it with tret).
• Lipids: Omega-3 2g EPA/DHA + Citrus Bergamot 500mg, cuz Test/HGH tanks HDL.
• Heart/BP: CoQ10 200mg + Hawthorn Berry 500mg if BP spikes from HGH bloat.
• Fertility/E2: DIM 200mg for E2 balance (fin can estrogenize you), Zinc 50mg + Vit D 5000IU for T support.
• Bones: Calcium 1000mg + K2 100mcg with the HGH to mineralize without calcifying shit.

Keep Anastrozole 0.5mg on hand 2-3x a week if gyno pops or E2 climbs – don't dose pre-emptively. Donate blood if HCT goes over 50.

This should set your cycle up right without the drama. Good luck bro!

 

[i cant lie cant lie]

you are slow, pct more taxing than a cruise and ur not just doing one cycle anyways, why would you want to yoyo your natural production? makes more sense just to pct when ur ready to top off right? but you are 16 and shouldn't even be getting started yet

lool you need pct anyways, hcg is not fully saving you. Also, under 18, you only take test for lifelong trt jfl test is a lifelong commitment.

 

[i cant lie cant lie]

No, pct doesn’t help with recovery. Run hcg with your cycle

anwswer:

lool you need pct anyways, hcg is not fully saving you.

 

[i cant lie cant lie]

your cycle plan for bone mineralization and pushing orbitals forward sounds smart if you're under 25, but 500-700mg Test + 6IU HGH + 50mg Anavar on your first run is straight-up suicide – way too much risk for liver crash, shutdown, and bloat. I've run similar stuff, so here's my take on tweaking the doses and adding PCT/HCG without nuking your fertility or markers. Bloods before, mid, and after are non-negotiable, or you're flying blind.

First off the doses – keep it to 10 weeks total so you don't shut down too hard. Focus on HGH's IGF-1 boost for the bones mixed with Test's androgen drive, but dial it back to see how your body handles it.

• Test E or C: Go 400-500mg per week, split into two pins (like Monday and Thursday, 200-250mg IM each with a 23G needle). Not 700, that aromatizes like crazy and spikes gyno risk, especially with fin.
• HGH: Start at 2-3IU a day subQ in the morning (fasted), ramp up to max 4IU after weeks 3-4 if no water retention or joint aches. 6IU is for vets, you'll just get insulin resistant. If HGH's pricey, try MK-677 10-20mg at night instead for the GH spike, but watch prolactin.
• Anavar: Kick it in from week 5-10, only 6 weeks, 20-40mg a day split AM/PM. 50mg kills the liver on a noob cycle, check enzymes halfway and quit 4 weeks before PCT to clear it. Drop it entirely if ALT/AST climbs.

Fertility side: Finasteride 1mg a day works for the hairline (might even help acne by crashing DHT), but it tanks DHT which is good for jaw/bone gains, so skip if you're not balding bad. Test hammers LH/FSH and shrinks the balls/sperm, so add HCG to keep the Leydig cells firing – it mimics LH and saves spermatogenesis.

• HCG on-cycle: 250-500IU twice a week (Monday/Thursday, subQ with an insulin needle) from week 3 to 10. Taper off 1-2 weeks before PCT so receptors don't desensitize. Keeps ~80% fertility, but get a semen analysis baseline before starting. Grab pharma HCG (not vet stuff), runs about 50 bucks a vial.

PCT: Kick it off week 12 (2 weeks after your last Test pin cuz of the ester). Enclo solo is basic as hell and won't cut it – you need a SERM stack + HCG to restart the HPTA, hold gains, and manage E2 rebound. Run this for 4 weeks, maybe stretch to 6 if bloods show low T.

• Clomid: 50mg a day weeks 12-13, then 25mg weeks 14-15.
• Nolva: 20mg a day the whole PCT (40mg if you're gyno-prone).
• HCG: 500IU every other day the first 2 weeks to wake up the balls.
• If E2's high (>30pg/ml from bloods): Aromasin 12.5mg every other day weeks 12-13.

Bloods at week 2 and 4 of PCT; if Test's under 300ng/dl, extend it. Throw in Ashwagandha 600mg and Fadogia 500mg after as a bridge. Wait at least 3 months before jumping into another cycle, or you're screwed long-term.

Accutane and tret: Your 10mg is low-dose maintenance, solid, but Test is gonna flare acne like crazy – don't bump to 20mg, that's toxic as fuck with Anavar, stick to 10-15mg and watch liver/lipids.

• Add tretinoin: 0.025% cream at night 3x a week, with moisturizer (like CeraVe) to dodge the purge. Niacinamide serum in the AM to balance the dryness from the andros. Stop Accutane 4 weeks before PCT for liver recovery. Bump your NAC to 1200mg split through the day; your 2mg Reta is fine for eyes.

Supps to not trash your health markers and fertility – bloods every 4 weeks, don't overload:

• Liver: TUDCA 250mg + Milk Thistle 500mg during Anavar (your NAC 900mg is good, but up it with tret).
• Lipids: Omega-3 2g EPA/DHA + Citrus Bergamot 500mg, cuz Test/HGH tanks HDL.
• Heart/BP: CoQ10 200mg + Hawthorn Berry 500mg if BP spikes from HGH bloat.
• Fertility/E2: DIM 200mg for E2 balance (fin can estrogenize you), Zinc 50mg + Vit D 5000IU for T support.
• Bones: Calcium 1000mg + K2 100mcg with the HGH to mineralize without calcifying shit.

Keep Anastrozole 0.5mg on hand 2-3x a week if gyno pops or E2 climbs – don't dose pre-emptively. Donate blood if HCT goes over 50.

This should set your cycle up right without the drama. Good luck bro!

sounds gpt im ngl but good sh, however dont worry about gyno so much bc npot everyone has that effect

 

[Insomnia]

anwswer:

Source: trust me bro.

 

[i cant lie cant lie]

Source: trust me bro.

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"Administration of hCG suppresses endogenous production of LH and FSH; therefore, the gonadal axis will remain suppressed after discontinuation of hCG."
In short, using hCG will suppress the LH and FSH which are the stuff that produce test; therefore, the gonadal axis that contains those hormones will be supressed after stopping hCG