Help on where to applypresure

[qquesy..]

So this guy on TikTok @Levio108 claims his own method ( Aero ) changes your bone structure after applying Preasure on some certain Spots on your Upper mouth, he is telling that you should apply presure to your hollowest points but I don’t know where this is, can someone tell it to me ?
Herr are some pictures and can you tell where I should apply preasure?

 

[mohito]

Wolff's law states that bone adapts its structure and mass in response to the external mechanical stress.

Thumbpulling doesn't work, because the force is not bone borne; unlike the force that muscle contraction applies on the bones. So it's a waste of your time

Make sure to mark this post as solution, it's the check mark on my right

 

[qquesy..]

Wolff's law states that bone adapts its structure and mass in response to the external mechanical stress.

Thumbpulling doesn't work, because the force is not bone borne; unlike the force that muscle contraction applies on the bones. So it's a waste of your time

Make sure to mark this post as solution, it's the check mark on my right

It’s applying presure to it with your tongue, not the fingers

 

[zophlol]

So this guy on TikTok @Levio108 claims his own method ( Aero ) changes your bone structure after applying Preasure on some certain Spots on your Upper mouth, he is telling that you should apply presure to your hollowest points but I don’t know where this is, can someone tell it to me ?
Herr are some pictures and can you tell where I should apply preasure?

cope mewing is better than this

 

[zophlol]

It’s applying presure to it with your tongue, not the fingers

don't do that it'll make ur hyoid area worse

 

[quadruplejaw]

Thumbpulling can only fuck your teeth up, its not enough pressure over long periods of time to actually widen your palette.

Solution: Get a palette expander

 

[mohito]

It’s applying presure to it with your tongue, not the fingers

It's still an external force

 

[qquesy..]

Thumbpulling can only fuck your teeth up, its not enough pressure over long periods of time to actually widen your palette.

Solution: Get a palette expander

Yes but you apply presure on your Upper palate with your tongue and this for a Long time 24/7 so far I know so if I apply presure to Right Spots 24/7 with my tongue it will still be cope ?

 

[qquesy..]

It's still an external force

Marked As Solution.

 

[quadruplejaw]

Yes but you apply presure on your Upper palate with your tongue and this for a Long time 24/7 so far I know so if I apply presure to Right Spots 24/7 with my tongue it will still be cope ?

Palette expander just works, mewing would take longer or not work at all depending on your age.

If you want actual results get an expander.

 

[mohito]

Thumbpulling can only fuck your teeth up, its not enough pressure over long periods of time to actually widen your palette.

Solution: Get a palette expander

This is the correct approach

 

[tomahawk]

Wolff's law states that bone adapts its structure and mass in response to the external mechanical stress.

Thumbpulling doesn't work, because the force is not bone borne; unlike the force that muscle contraction applies on the bones. So it's a waste of your time

Make sure to mark this post as solution, it's the check mark on my right

i disagree.

 

[qquesy..]

Palette expander just works, mewing would take longer or not work at all depending on your age.

If you want actual results get an expander.

İm 14 if i mew all the way to 20 or something will it support my maxilla ?

 

[qquesy..]

i disagree.

Why is that ?

 

[qquesy..]

This is the correct approach

Which one should I Mark as Solution

 

[quadruplejaw]

İm 14 if i mew all the way to 20 or something will it support my maxilla ?

Mewing is just proper tounge posture, you should do that no matter what.

Don’t expect miracles just by holding your tounge properly, but yes proper tounge posture helps your development.

 

[mohito]

i disagree.

Don't do this, my bro. Whole thing has been refuted

 

[tomahawk]

Why is that ?

ive seen results myself, ive made tens of threads about it
IMW 38mm -> 41mm

 

[tomahawk]

Don't do this, my bro. Whole thing has been refuted

brah, i already did this. and it has shown its wellness. in a study even a 70yo could split the suture with 86N. what makes you think your thumbs cant?

 

[qquesy..]

ive seen results myself, ive made tens of threads about it
IMW 38mm -> 41mm

Of thumbpulling or the method I told above ?

 

[tomahawk]

Of thumbpulling or the method I told above ?

TP

 

[mohito]

Which one should I Mark as Solution

My post explained why what u were doing was wrong, but the other post gave u the method to increase palate width. Give the other guy solution

 

[MouthBreathingElite]

don't do that it'll make ur hyoid area worse

Wdym

 

[zophlol]

Wdym

try mewing but apply pressure you can feel ur hyoid bulge and it'll become worse overtime by doing that

 

[minoxidilmaxxed78]

My post explained why what u were doing was wrong, but the other post gave u the method to increase palate width. Give the other guy solution

most humble guy on org

 

[MouthBreathingElite]

Don't do this, my bro. Whole thing has been refuted

Ive gotten results bradar, my nose isnt droopy anymore. I can send it to you if you want but only the nose

 

[mohito]

brah, i already did this. and it has shown its wellness. in a study even a 70yo could split the suture with 86N. what makes you think your thumbs cant?

The force should be sustained. Mse and marpe makes sure it does, but thumbs can't. Plus, you can't be sure that you're actually applying force on the bone and not the connective tissue

 

[mohito]

Ive gotten results bradar, my nose isnt droopy anymore. I can send it to you if you want but only the nose

Absolutely bro

 

[MouthBreathingElite]

try mewing but apply pressure you can feel ur hyoid bulge and it'll become worse overtime by doing that

The area only becomes firmer nothing else

 

[zophlol]

The area only becomes firmer nothing else

it does get worse tho

 

[minoxidilmaxxed78]

Wolff's law states that bone adapts its structure and mass in response to the external mechanical stress.

Thumbpulling doesn't work, because the force is not bone borne; unlike the force that muscle contraction applies on the bones. So it's a waste of your time

Make sure to mark this post as solution, it's the check mark on my right

genuine question, by that logic would masseter contraction at a high enough force, practiced consistently, have any effect on the developement of the mandible in your opinion?

 

[qquesy..]

try mewing but apply pressure you can feel ur hyoid bulge and it'll become worse overtime by doing that

What does Bulge mean ? English is my 3. Language

 

[tomahawk]

The force should be sustained. Mse and marpe makes sure it does, but thumbs can't. Plus, you can't be sure that you're actually applying force on the bone and not the connective tissue

the force of MARPE is not sustained; marpe expands to a certain width then holds
the connective tissue claim is wrong; its too thin to absorb enough force

 

[minoxidilmaxxed78]

Ive gotten results bradar, my nose isnt droopy anymore. I can send it to you if you want but only the nose

can you send me too?

 

[tomahawk]

if anything itll cause:
1. mandibular downgrowth
2. bigger antegonial notch
3. loss of zygomatic projection

genuine question, by that logic would masseter contraction at a high enough force, practiced consistently, have any effect on the developement of the mandible in your opinion?

 

[tomahawk]

Ive gotten results bradar, my nose isnt droopy anymore. I can send it to you if you want but only the nose

you thumbpulled? show

 

[mohito]

genuine question, by that logic would masseter contraction at a high enough force, practiced consistently, have any effect on the developement of the mandible in your opinion?

Masseter contraction can absolutely influence the mandible development, but mostly during growth. It isn't sustained tho, so still less effective than expanders

 

[minoxidilmaxxed78]

if anything itll cause:
1. mandibular downgrowth
2. bigger antegonial notch
3. loss of zygomatic projection

thats what i was thinking, due to the direction of the muscle fibers right?

 

[qquesy..]

Masseter contraction can absolutely influence the mandible development, but mostly during growth. It isn't sustained tho, so still less effective than expanders

Yk how I can fix my gonial angle During growing

 

[tomahawk]

thats what i was thinking, due to the direction of the muscle fibers right?

exactly

 

[tomahawk]

Masseter contraction can absolutely influence the mandible development, but mostly during growth. It isn't sustained tho, so still less effective than expanders

it will fuck shit up

 

[mohito]

the force of MARPE is not sustained; marpe expands to a certain width then holds

It's not continous expansion, but it keeps midpalatal suture under constant tensile strain

the connective tissue claim is wrong; its too thin to absorb enough force

It's not just thick, it's also highly vascular and full of fibroblasts that can transmit stress

 

[tomahawk]

It's not just thick, it's also highly vascular and full of fibroblasts that can transmit stress

would a gemini response be enough to change your opinion?

 

[minoxidilmaxxed78]

Masseter contraction can absolutely influence the mandible development, but mostly during growth. It isn't sustained tho, so still less effective than expanders

whats your thoughts on whether exogenous hormones can affect bone development, during and outside puberty?

 

[mohito]

Yk how I can fix my gonial angle During growing

High gonial angle is usually the result of either lacking in maxillary superior development or lacking mandible development. If the issue is mandible, appliances like herbst or twin block can help. If it's maxilla, then it can't really be fixed only through orthodontics

 

[mohito]

would a gemini response be enough to change your opinion?

Sure, but make sure to feed it all my arguments

 

[mohito]

whats your thoughts on whether exogenous hormones can affect bone development, during and outside puberty?

Both test and growth hormone can definitely increase bone remodeling rate. But for active bone growth, it's required to use substances such as teriparatide and denosumab which directly boost osteoblast activity

 

[tomahawk]

Sure, but make sure to feed it all my arguments

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[MouthBreathingElite]

it does get worse tho

Is it reversible why does it get worse

 

[MouthBreathingElite]

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