Help with fin/dut protocoll

[bonelessvirgin]

So ive been blasting 750 test for the past 3 months and really been getting quite some miniturisation only some density loss but not tryna risk anything.
Been taking 5mg oral minox nightly for a year and i got fin and dut on me.
Im lowering the test to 250 for the next 3 months atleast.
Now my question is how do i get as much dht out of my system as possible. As far as i know dutasteride takes quite some time to really work so should i do something like dut daily and finasteride a few times a week? Any recommendations?

 

[i cant lie cant lie]

So ive been blasting 750 test for the past 3 months and really been getting quite some miniturisation only some density loss but not tryna risk anything.
Been taking 5mg oral minox nightly for a year and i got fin and dut on me.
Im lowering the test to 250 for the next 3 months atleast.
Now my question is how do i get as much dht out of my system as possible. As far as i know dutasteride takes quite some time to really work so should i do something like dut daily and finasteride a few times a week? Any recommendations?

Dut 2mg daily to eliminate 90%+ of DHT.
Also miniturisation? you mean aromatization?

 

[i cant lie cant lie]

So ive been blasting 750 test for the past 3 months and really been getting quite some miniturisation only some density loss but not tryna risk anything.
Been taking 5mg oral minox nightly for a year and i got fin and dut on me.
Im lowering the test to 250 for the next 3 months atleast.
Now my question is how do i get as much dht out of my system as possible. As far as i know dutasteride takes quite some time to really work so should i do something like dut daily and finasteride a few times a week? Any recommendations?

Good idea, blasting test then cruising

 

[bIackpill]

So ive been blasting 750 test for the past 3 months and really been getting quite some miniturisation only some density loss but not tryna risk anything.
Been taking 5mg oral minox nightly for a year and i got fin and dut on me.
Im lowering the test to 250 for the next 3 months atleast.
Now my question is how do i get as much dht out of my system as possible. As far as i know dutasteride takes quite some time to really work so should i do something like dut daily and finasteride a few times a week? Any recommendations?

well if you got dut and finasteride its enough

 

[LefortCandidate]

1 mg fin and 2.5 mg dut 2 times a week

once the dut settles in stop fin

 

[bonelessvirgin]

Dut 2mg daily to eliminate 90%+ of DHT.
Also miniturisation? you mean aromatization?

no miniturisation of the hair follicle meaning some hairs on my temples and front have been getting a little thinner. Im not really prone it just 750 test without fin/dut was a little too much

 

[bonelessvirgin]

well if you got dut and finasteride its enough

Good idea, blasting test then cruising

I mean yeah my question was just how to utilize these 2 together to get most dht out of my system as fast as possible as dut takes some time to "saturate" as far as i know

 

[i cant lie cant lie]

I mean yeah my question was just how to utilize these 2 together to get most dht out of my system as fast as possible as dut takes some time to "saturate" as far as i know

that time shouldnt be a concern, its like 3 months, once you start next cycle it would be in your blood

 

[bonelessvirgin]

1 mg fin and 2.5 mg dut 2 times a week

once the dut settles in stop fin

1mg fin daily and 2.5mg dut or both just twice a week? i feel like for dut it makes sense to take it now everyday but for fin as it has a pretty short halflife it makes sense to take it everyday. at the end of the day im obviously gonna fully rely on just dut its just i got the fin already on me and im tryna get this trash hormone as fast as possible out of my scalp.
Also taking dut twice a week in higher dosages makes more sense to take like .5 everyday?

 

[molecule8]

too many subuman 0 iq responders to this thread

dutasteride accumulation takes a while to reach peak saturation levels. i would recommend using finasteride if you have any to hand during the interim period for at least 4 weeks, if not more. you wont reach "nuke" levels, but honestly, any reasonable reduction will keep hair follicles healthy enough to survive, which is the only thing that matters anyhow.

you won't lose hair in 3 weeks unless they are already visibly white and dying. use finasteride everyday with your chosen dosage for 4 weeks as an overlap

 

[bonelessvirgin]

too many subuman 0 iq responders to this thread

dutasteride accumulation takes a while to reach peak saturation levels. i would recommend using finasteride if you have any to hand during the interim period for at least 4 weeks, if not more. you wont reach "nuke" levels, but honestly, any reasonable reduction will keep hair follicles healthy enough to survive, which is the only thing that matters anyhow.

you won't lose hair in 3 weeks unless they are already visibly white and dying. use finasteride everyday with your chosen dosage for 4 weeks as an overlap

Yea i still have above average density its just the front has some thinner hairs and that was a sign for me to not take any risk.
So you would recommend starting something like 1mg fin daily(got 100*1mg on me) and what about the dut? .5daily? 2.5 daily? 2.5 twice a week?

 

[LefortCandidate]

1mg fin daily and 2.5mg dut or both just twice a week? i feel like for dut it makes sense to take it now everyday but for fin as it has a pretty short halflife it makes sense to take it everyday. at the end of the day im obviously gonna fully rely on just dut its just i got the fin already on me and im tryna get this trash hormone as fast as possible out of my scalp.
Also taking dut twice a week in higher dosages makes more sense to take like .5 everyday?

its takes time for dut to accumulate

take fin daily and dut 2.5 mg 2 times a week to lower side effect profile and a potential shed

once you're good remove fin

 

[molecule8]

Yea i still have above average density its just the front has some thinner hairs and that was a sign for me to not take any risk.
So you would recommend starting something like 1mg fin daily(got 100*1mg on me) and what about the dut? .5daily? 2.5 daily? 2.5 twice a week?

the guy above is genuinely 0 iq, please ignore him holy fuck

shedding ≠ minaturization you fucking retard @LefortCandidate. @bonelessvirgin 2.5 dut DAILY (JFL at "2 times a week" advice holy shit ) mogs due to the more systemic DHT reduction, and is especially important for you as you are taking superphysiological amounts of testosterone. For our purposes, that systemic reduction is more important for the scalp area specifically, not just in plasma. If you are on exogenous testosterone and actually want to nuke DHT, higher dosage is so obviously the way to go. You can go higher thatn 2.5 easily but there is diminishing returns, this is generally the sweet spot most people go for though it depends on your dosage and genetic response. for the overwhelming majority of users, this will be more than enough.

I was in the exact same situation as you, I had leftover finasteride and so I used it during the loading phase for my Dutasteride to ensure I had some protection in the interim period. Finasteride efficacy really falls off around 1mg daily so unless you really want to squeeze like a little extra before you bin the supply, I wouldn't even bother. 100 Pills should reasonably cover you for effects to start at 1/d anyhow.

there is not really any disadvantages to using finasteride while on dutasteride other than wasting money. if you have the supply already, you can just use until completion. though it would get pretty quickly pointless after saturation begins to rise.

super easy chart to understand, gets my gold standard for visual data

remember to adjust your dosage for bioavailability, tablets are generally quite lower than the softgel capsules

 

[LefortCandidate]

the guy above is genuinely 0 iq, please ignore him holy fuck

shedding ≠ minaturization you fucking retard @LefortCandidate. @bonelessvirgin 2.5 dut DAILY (JFL at "2 times a week" advice holy shit ) mogs due to the more systemic DHT reduction, and is especially important for you as you are taking superphysiological amounts of testosterone. For our purposes, that systemic reduction is more important for the scalp area specifically, not just in plasma. If you are on exogenous testosterone and actually want to nuke DHT, higher dosage is so obviously the way to go. You can go higher thatn 2.5 easily but there is diminishing returns, this is generally the sweet spot most people go for though it depends on your dosage and genetic response. for the overwhelming majority of users, this will be more than enough.

I was in the exact same situation as you, I had leftover finasteride and so I used it during the loading phase for my Dutasteride to ensure I had some protection in the interim period. Finasteride efficacy really falls off around 1mg daily so unless you really want to squeeze like a little extra before you bin the supply, I wouldn't even bother. 100 Pills should reasonably cover you for effects to start at 1/d anyhow.

there is not really any disadvantages to using finasteride while on dutasteride other than wasting money. if you have the supply already, you can just use until completion. though it would get pretty quickly pointless after saturation begins to rise.

super easy chart to understand, gets my gold standard for visual data

remember to adjust your dosage for bioavailability, tablets are generally quite lower than the softgel capsules

why are you angry little boy, we all know these studies but there is nuance to this shit

he is not experiencing an aggressive aga at 750 test and he is gonna drop to 250 therefore finasteride alone can be effective

also may be in the 2 % of people that run into sides so he needs to test the water first instead of hopping on a nuclear stack that take 6 moths to leave the body after stopping and also hella expensive

i gave him a basic protocol that most people do when they are trying to get into dutasteride

 

[molecule8]

why are you angry little boy, we all know these studies but there is nuance to this shit

he is not experiencing an aggressive aga at 750 test and he is gonna drop to 250 therefore finasteride alone can be effective

also may be in the 2 % of people that run into sides so he needs to test the water first instead of hopping on a nuclear stack that take 6 moths to leave the body after stopping and also hella expensive

i gave him a basic protocol that most people do when they are trying to get into dutasteride

dnr barbarian drivel

 

[bonelessvirgin]

the guy above is genuinely 0 iq, please ignore him holy fuck

shedding ≠ minaturization you fucking retard @LefortCandidate. @bonelessvirgin 2.5 dut DAILY (JFL at "2 times a week" advice holy shit ) mogs due to the more systemic DHT reduction, and is especially important for you as you are taking superphysiological amounts of testosterone. For our purposes, that systemic reduction is more important for the scalp area specifically, not just in plasma. If you are on exogenous testosterone and actually want to nuke DHT, higher dosage is so obviously the way to go. You can go higher thatn 2.5 easily but there is diminishing returns, this is generally the sweet spot most people go for though it depends on your dosage and genetic response. for the overwhelming majority of users, this will be more than enough.

I was in the exact same situation as you, I had leftover finasteride and so I used it during the loading phase for my Dutasteride to ensure I had some protection in the interim period. Finasteride efficacy really falls off around 1mg daily so unless you really want to squeeze like a little extra before you bin the supply, I wouldn't even bother. 100 Pills should reasonably cover you for effects to start at 1/d anyhow.

there is not really any disadvantages to using finasteride while on dutasteride other than wasting money. if you have the supply already, you can just use until completion. though it would get pretty quickly pointless after saturation begins to rise.

super easy chart to understand, gets my gold standard for visual data

remember to adjust your dosage for bioavailability, tablets are generally quite lower than the softgel capsules

thank you for the detailed explanation im aware of all that i was just asking about a protocoll for starting asap which you answered really nicely so thank you.
gonna start with a 1mg fin daily and .5 dut daily though as im cruising now anyways and its expensive when you just get these fucking low dosed pills(jfl at these pharmacies at selling a drug only dosed below its maximum effacacious dose) so ill see how the progress is looking in 3months and from there on i can always dose up

 

[bonelessvirgin]

why are you angry little boy, we all know these studies but there is nuance to this shit

he is not experiencing an aggressive aga at 750 test and he is gonna drop to 250 therefore finasteride alone can be effective

also may be in the 2 % of people that run into sides so he needs to test the water first instead of hopping on a nuclear stack that take 6 moths to leave the body after stopping and also hella expensive

i gave him a basic protocol that most people do when they are trying to get into dutasteride

fuck sides. if it doesnt get you really suicidal for whatever reason losing your hair at 20 is always gonna have more of an psychological effect than any lack of whatever product of 5ar could get you

 

[beachflow83]

Fin is redundant once dut is stable in your system, I never did roids but i have naturally bad follicle sensitivity to DHT and high T, 0.5mg is enough here. If you are doing 250 test i feel like 0.5mg daily should be enough in most cases, fin could not enough tho. With 750 you most likely gonna need the 2.5mg daily.
Btw just genuienly curious about your thought process of the whole stack because it’s insanely obvious that you are in the blind with pharmaceuticals, 750mg test is clearly not a healthy dose either, so just wondering if you had your due diligence in any form or just ordered shit online and started pinning it, finding out shit as you go, i mean its fine just wondering

 

[bonelessvirgin]

Fin is redundant once dut is stable in your system, I never did roids but i have naturally bad follicle sensitivity to DHT and high T, 0.5mg is enough here. If you are doing 250 test i feel like 0.5mg daily should be enough in most cases, fin could not enough tho. With 750 you most likely gonna need the 2.5mg daily.
Btw just genuienly curious about your thought process of the whole stack because it’s insanely obvious that you are in the blind with pharmaceuticals, 750mg test is clearly not a healthy dose either, so just wondering if you had your due diligence in any form or just ordered shit online and started pinning it, finding out shit as you go, i mean its fine just wondering

nah dw i know exactly what im doing. May have sounded a little retarded asking such questions but i have zero experience with dut so yeah.
750mg of test is obv not healthy but its not really gonna damage you in any way longterm as long as your managing sides which i do

Also youre obviously not gonna run something like this for very long. blast and cruise buddy
My plan is now cruise 250mg test stick with 5IU GH, 5mg oral minoxidil,5mg cialis, 2,5mg nebivolol, 1mg fin until im empty while .5 dut daily forever until i lose ground or sth might increase the dose.
See where im at in 3 Months and might do a few more 500mg test cycles until im where i want to be (only10kg lean tissue left)

Im very well informed ive spent a LOT of time researching i just dont know anything about typical dut/fin protocolls as what im doing is pretty rare. Hopping on dut while having fin on hand and using the fin to get dht quicker out of my scalp which i didnt find something about so i asked here

 

[bonelessvirgin]

Fin is redundant once dut is stable in your system, I never did roids but i have naturally bad follicle sensitivity to DHT and high T, 0.5mg is enough here. If you are doing 250 test i feel like 0.5mg daily should be enough in most cases, fin could not enough tho. With 750 you most likely gonna need the 2.5mg daily.
Btw just genuienly curious about your thought process of the whole stack because it’s insanely obvious that you are in the blind with pharmaceuticals, 750mg test is clearly not a healthy dose either, so just wondering if you had your due diligence in any form or just ordered shit online and started pinning it, finding out shit as you go, i mean its fine just wondering

went from 60->80kg in 6 months while staying pretty lean even though im still pretty skinny ive drastically ascended my physique in 6 Months

 

[beachflow83]

went from 60->80kg in 6 months while staying pretty lean even though im still pretty skinny ive drastically ascended my physique in 6 Months

Yea looks really good, well you might wanna use some topical anti androgen like RU until dut is stable in your system which is 3 months but long term its really annoying to use just like any topicals, as long as you are not taking shit like tren, 0.5 dut should be good. As i said im natural but been using 5mg minoxidil and 0.5mg dutasteride for some time, dut is new in the stack but ive been using fin for 2 years before, as you could have guessed fin wasn’t fully enough for balding that started at like the age of 17. Also not sure whats your skin’s response to 750mg test but accutane is a great drug i never had acne since i took a cycle at the age of 19, i had crazy acne and my test is “only” 900 ng/dl which should be 1/5th of yours with 750

 

[bonelessvirgin]

Yea looks really good, well you might wanna use some topical anti androgen like RU until dut is stable in your system which is 3 months but long term its really annoying to use just like any topicals, as long as you are not taking shit like tren, 0.5 dut should be good. As i said im natural but been using 5mg minoxidil and 0.5mg dutasteride for some time, dut is new in the stack but ive been using fin for 2 years before, as you could have guessed fin wasn’t fully enough for balding that started at like the age of 17. Also not sure whats your skin’s response to 750mg test but accutane is a great drug i never had acne since i took a cycle at the age of 19, i had crazy acne and my test is “only” 900 ng/dl which should be 1/5th of yours with 750

i dont have any acne besides a few pimples on my back(i dont even wash my face regularly jfl) Cant be bothered to smear anything on my head if .5 dut doesnt keep me safe on trt dosages im done/gonna up the dose.
Im just sicking to test was playing with the thought of adding nandrolone but when your on a 5ar inhibtor it makes it go from hair safe to the exact opposite. Test is best as long as you mange estrogen and dht
might add in a microdose of tren though when i cut for the summeras even though it technically wrecks your hair and is highly androgenic in very low doses like 20-50mg it wont really do anything and its the best thing to preserve muscle in a deficit

 

[adeeyeah]

2.5mg dut is superior

 

[bonelessvirgin]

2.5mg dut is superior

agreed but 5x the costs when you can only get your hands on .5mg pills and if .5 is enough to not only stop loss but also regrow its fine

 

[beachflow83]

i dont have any acne besides a few pimples on my back(i dont even wash my face regularly jfl) Cant be bothered to smear anything on my head if .5 dut doesnt keep me safe on trt dosages im done/gonna up the dose.
Im just sicking to test was playing with the thought of adding nandrolone but when your on a 5ar inhibtor it makes it go from hair safe to the exact opposite. Test is best as long as you mange estrogen and dht
might add in a microdose of tren though when i cut for the summeras even though it technically wrecks your hair and is highly androgenic in very low doses like 20-50mg it wont really do anything and its the best thing to preserve muscle in a deficit

Yea also 2.5 is a pain in the ass, im from europe and in my country you can’t even get fin prescribed for hairloss but i still managed to get 0.5 prescribed. 2.5 is insanely hard probably the compounding pharmacy im using can do it but most people on this forum just order dut powder which is ass because its really not bioavailable in powder form unlike fin, it has to be properly compounded with additional ingredients to help the powder being more bioavailable or compound it in soft gel format.
Tldr: most 2.5 dut users dont even realise that their 2.5 in powder form could lower dht less than a properly compounded 0.5mg capsule