Hgh and diabetes

[Deleted member 29747]

Can I get diabetes with hgh (real)

 

[Krakowski]

Yes (real)

 

[Deleted member 29747]

Yes (real)

Anyway to prevent without lowering igf-1

 

[Krakowski]

Anyway to prevent without lowering igf-1

Take mk677 and berberine at the same time, maybe a low dosage of ritalin aswell - but I am not a doctor.

 

[Deleted member 29747]

Take mk677 and berberine at the same time, maybe a low dosage of ritalin aswell - but I am not a doctor.

Bro taking mk will increase the chance a lot and berberine lowers igf-1

 

[Krakowski]

Bro taking mk will increase the chance a lot and berberine lowers igf-1

I guess you can risk it if you want to, chances of getting diabetes is still low

 

[Giorgio]

no, any increase in insulin resistance should not be permanent

but do your own research

 

[Saint Casanova]

Get a glucose monitor when cycling.

 

[PerfectInCell]

berberine... LOWERS igf-1? Gentlemen...

Take mk677 and berberine at the same time, maybe a low dosage of ritalin aswell - but I am not a doctor.

they say take berberine with mk677 to PREVENT the diabetic effects that mk677 already has.

 

[becomingnearperfect]

Bro taking mk will increase the chance a lot and berberine lowers igf-1

I've heard taking chromium picolinate and alpha lipoic acid is a good substitute. I plan to also just take chromium picolinate when taking mk

 

[FrenchChad]

no, any increase in insulin resistance should not be permanent

but do your own research

Well it depends, HGH/Mk677 without Berberine/Metformin can cause prediabetes or even full blown type 2 diabetes, the former would be more probable and can be reversed, the latter most of the time imply that some beta cells died and is not reversible.
So in a sense yes it won't be permanent if you do the lifestyle changes necessary to increase your insulin sensitivity (too high igf-1 levels directly affect insulin downstream molecular signaling and insulin receptors count on cell surfaces) but if there is insulin resistance it won't disappear magically once you stop injecting/consuming it.
And if you do nothing about it there is a strong chance that it will just get worse and evolve to a full blown diabetes type 2.

 

[Lucid]

Niggas fell for the berberine meme. Just work out high intensity with good rest periods to not get fucked.

 

[weebcel]

I became diabetic from injecting too much HGH but i grew taller so i guess it was worth it.

 

[Deleted member 29747]

I became diabetic from injecting too much HGH but i grew taller so i guess it was worth it.

How much u injecting

 

[weebcel]

How much u injecting

10iu

 

[Giorgio]

HGH/Mk677

how can you throw mk677 and actual HGH into the same bag? mk is nowhere near the intensity of exogenous HGH

if there is insulin resistance it won't disappear magically once you stop injecting/consuming it

when doing my research I came across lots of people saying that unless you are an actual diabetic, the tolerance is not permanent
isn't that what diabetes is, natural permanent tolerance?
why wouldn't the tolerance return to baseline after stopping usage?

 

[Deleted member 28774]

Just dont eat sugar and processed carbs whilst on it and drink apple cider vinegar

 

[Deleted member 28774]

10iu

10!!!!!!!

 

[Deleted member 28774]

Well it depends, HGH/Mk677 without Berberine/Metformin can cause prediabetes or even full blown type 2 diabetes, the former would be more probable and can be reversed, the latter most of the time imply that some beta cells died and is not reversible.
So in a sense yes it won't be permanent if you do the lifestyle changes necessary to increase your insulin sensitivity (too high igf-1 levels directly affect insulin downstream molecular signaling and insulin receptors count on cell surfaces) but if there is insulin resistance it won't disappear magically once you stop injecting/consuming it.
And if you do nothing about it there is a strong chance that it will just get worse and evolve to a full blown diabetes type 2.

Hello high iq person, lets say a person using hgh ate the best food in the world no sugar and exercised regularly (me) and drank apple cider vinegar. Would hgh still give me diabetes

 

[FrenchChad]

how can you throw mk677 and actual HGH into the same bag? mk is nowhere near the intensity of exogenous HGH


when doing my research I came across lots of people saying that unless you are an actual diabetic, the tolerance is not permanent
isn't that what diabetes is, natural permanent tolerance?
why wouldn't the tolerance return to baseline after stopping usage?

I do not imply that they have the same intensity, however they are both known to significantly increase blood glucose levels, at a point where it can counteract the effect of insulin.
As a result your pancreas will produce more and more insulin and your beta-cells may eventually get exhausted and die, moreover too high stimulation of igf-1 receptors over a long period can result in an increase in insulin resistance which can be installed progressively, but the main mechanism is the direct significant increase in blood glucose levels by hgh.
If some of your beta cells get exhausted and die you are basically done (their regenerative abilities are very limited) and you have type 2 diabetes.

If you end up with insulin-resistance your cells are less responsive to the effect of insulin independently of hgh and actual blood glucose levels, so it would stay to an extent, if it's prediabetes (which is mysteriously more and more common even among growing teenagers) then it can be reversed (Aerobic exercise is proven to increase insulin receptors and signaling cascade for instance).
And if your beta cells die as a said you won't be able to produce as much insulin as before while having cells that are less sensitive to the effets of insulin : you have type 2 diabetes.
Combine the increase in blood glucose levels with western diet and lifestyle and you get a significant chance of getting diabetes if you don't use berberine/metformin or anything that would prevent insulin resistance.

 

[FrenchChad]

Hello high iq person, lets say a person using hgh ate the best food in the world no sugar and exercised regularly (me) and drank apple cider vinegar. Would hgh still give me diabetes

It would significantly reduce the risk but it wouldn't make it inexistant either if that person injected pharmalogical doses of hgh, diabetes is a really bad disease and complications are almost inevitable at the end (blindness, amputation, kidney problems).
So takes berberine aside, it's relatively cheap and would prevent your life from getting fucked for few inches.

 

[Deleted member 23391]

Take mk677 and berberine at the same time, maybe a low dosage of ritalin aswell - but I am not a doctor.

lol wtf that will make it worse

 

[Mewton]

I tried HGH for like a month
Stopped for this reason my blood sugar got in prediabetic range

 

[BoredPrince]

Don't know about HGH, but with mk 677 it's often advised to only take it 5 days a week and no longer than 3 months for that exact reason

 

[Giorgio]

I do not imply that they have the same intensity, however they are both known to significantly increase blood glucose levels, at a point where it can counteract the effect of insulin.
As a result your pancreas will produce more and more insulin and your beta-cells may eventually get exhausted and die, moreover too high stimulation of igf-1 receptors over a long period can result in an increase in insulin resistance which can be installed progressively, but the main mechanism is the direct significant increase in blood glucose levels by hgh.
If some of your beta cells get exhausted and die you are basically done (their regenerative abilities are very limited) and you have type 2 diabetes.

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If you end up with insulin-resistance your cells are less responsive to the effect of insulin independently of hgh and actual blood glucose levels, so it would stay to an extent, if it's prediabetes (which is mysteriously more and more common even among growing teenagers) then it can be reversed (Aerobic exercise is proven to increase insulin receptors and signaling cascade for instance).
And if your beta cells die as a said you won't be able to produce as much insulin as before while having cells that are less sensitive to the effets of insulin : you have type 2 diabetes.
Combine the increase in blood glucose levels with western diet and lifestyle and you get a significant chance of getting diabetes if you don't use berberine/metformin or anything that would prevent insulin resistance.

how long of a cycle/usage would be enough to cause damage in your opinion?

 

[FrenchChad]

how long of a cycle/usage would be enough to cause damage in your opinion?

It depends on the doses but without any protection and with shit life habits several months should be enough to give you a type 2 diabetes or a prediabetes.
Of course if one your relatives have tyoe 2 diabetes you are more likely to end up with it.
But anyway regardless of the duration of your cycle you should do sports (Exercice promotes the uptake of glucose independently of insulin and increases insulin sensitivity, it is one of the main symptomatic treatments for type 2 diabetic patients) and take metformin/berberine.