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I was asked to prove the christian moral framework logically and will start with abortion as it is the most disputed subject.



This is the logical proof of why abortion is morally wrong unless in the circumstance that giving birth may lead to death or severe harm to the mother, death of the child, or in the case that the child has such severe deformities or mental defections that it will die shortly after birth. In all other circumstances it is morally wrong to perform an abortion. This proof assumes the inherent value of human life and will base itself on the belief that for any action to be morally good it must be just.

I will first prove why it is morally wrong to kill a human in all other cases than the aforementioned. Then I will prove why an unborn human has the same inherent value as a born human.




Scenarios where you kill a human for the same reason some people kill their unborn children:


-Not killing the human would cause inconvenience to you for many months ending with a 6 hour period of physical pain and you are responsible for putting yourself in this position. In this scenario it is morally wrong to kill a human as a life is more valuable than a period of inconvenience. Especially if you are the reason such a choice must be made.
-Not killing the human would mean economical hardship to you and you are responsible for putting yourself in this situation. In this scenario it is morally wrong to kill a human. The human life is worth more than any sum of money for which giving away that money doesn’t lead to starvation and death, which is not the case in this scenario. Especially when you are the reason such a choice must be made.
-Not killing the human would mean an end to your degenerate behaviour (partying, whoring, drinking etc.) In this case it is morally wrong to kill a human as you cannot justify a moral wrong by claiming it leads to a negative consequence. Then you are giving reason for why it is wrong.
-You were forced into any of the aforementioned scenarios (rape). The only effective difference between leading yourself into these scenarios or being forced into them is psychological. Your temporary psychological suffering is not worse than the death of a human and therefore it is still morally wrong to kill a human in this scenario. Note that the psychological suffering is temporary as you do not have the obligation to keep supporting the human after birth as there are adoption centres and foster care that can take care of your child if you so wish.
-The human would, according to you, suffer more throughout his/her life as a result of dysfunctional family, economical hardship or other than if you killed them. Since the person in question is not capable of deciding that them selves and you do not have mandate over their life taking such action is trespassing their right to life and is therefore morally wrong.








An unborn human has the same value as a born human:


First we will establish that an unborn human is human through:
Biology- They have the DNA of Homo Sapiens
Law- Irrelevant as law should be based on morality and not viceversa

Then we will establish that an unborn human is alive:
Biology- Their cells are replicating and converting energy which implies he/she is alive
Law- Irrelevant as law should be based on morality and not viceversa
Anatomy- There is the argument that brain activity is needed or the person is considered dead however this only applies to born humans as they have no way of gaining their brain activity back through any means other than a miracle while the unborn human will gain brain activity



Then there are arguments that an unborn living human is not as valuable as a born living human:

-An unborn human is not capable of surviving outside the womb. This implies that people in need of continued medical assistance are not equal to people without that need which is unjust and therefore wrong.
-An unborn human is not conscious/aware. This implies that all humans that are asleep are unequal to humans that are awake which is unjust and therefore wrong.
-An unborn human does not have any memories or experiences and is therefore not valued. This implies that younger humans are less worth than older humans and that people experience long term memory loss through dementia or other are less valued. This is unproductive and unjust and therefore wrong.
-An unborn human doesn’t look like a born human. This is irrelevant as we have established that it still is a human. It also implies that people should be valued based on how much they look like a regular born human meaning people with deformities or mutilations or less valued. This is unjust and therefore wrong.




To summarize:
An unborn human is proven to be a living human and has also proved to be as valuable as a born human. Killing a human for aforementioned reasons has been proven to be morally wrong and therefore performing abortion on your child in any case except when the mother or child will die during or soon after pregnancy is morally wrong.


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Im personally raping the family of anyone saying dnr
 
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I was asked to prove the christian moral framework logically and will start with abortion as it is the most disputed subject.



This is the logical proof of why abortion is morally wrong unless in the circumstance that giving birth may lead to death or severe harm to the mother, death of the child, or in the case that the child has such severe deformities or mental defections that it will die shortly after birth. In all other circumstances it is morally wrong to perform an abortion. This proof assumes the inherent value of human life and will base itself on the belief that for any action to be morally good it must be just.

I will first prove why it is morally wrong to kill a human in all other cases than the aforementioned. Then I will prove why an unborn human has the same inherent value as a born human.




Scenarios where you kill a human for the same reason some people kill their unborn children:


-Not killing the human would cause inconvenience to you for many months ending with a 6 hour period of physical pain and you are responsible for putting yourself in this position. In this scenario it is morally wrong to kill a human as a life is more valuable than a period of inconvenience. Especially if you are the reason such a choice must be made.
-Not killing the human would mean economical hardship to you and you are responsible for putting yourself in this situation. In this scenario it is morally wrong to kill a human. The human life is worth more than any sum of money for which giving away that money doesn’t lead to starvation and death, which is not the case in this scenario. Especially when you are the reason such a choice must be made.
-Not killing the human would mean an end to your degenerate behaviour (partying, whoring, drinking etc.) In this case it is morally wrong to kill a human as you cannot justify a moral wrong by claiming it leads to a negative consequence. Then you are giving reason for why it is wrong.
-You were forced into any of the aforementioned scenarios (rape). The only effective difference between leading yourself into these scenarios or being forced into them is psychological. Your temporary psychological suffering is not worse than the death of a human and therefore it is still morally wrong to kill a human in this scenario. Note that the psychological suffering is temporary as you do not have the obligation to keep supporting the human after birth as there are adoption centres and foster care that can take care of your child if you so wish.
-The human would, according to you, suffer more throughout his/her life as a result of dysfunctional family, economical hardship or other than if you killed them. Since the person in question is not capable of deciding that them selves and you do not have mandate over their life taking such action is trespassing their right to life and is therefore morally wrong.








An unborn human has the same value as a born human:


First we will establish that an unborn human is human through:
Biology- They have the DNA of Homo Sapiens
Law- Irrelevant as law should be based on morality and not viceversa

Then we will establish that an unborn human is alive:
Biology- Their cells are replicating and converting energy which implies he/she is alive
Law- Irrelevant as law should be based on morality and not viceversa
Anatomy- There is the argument that brain activity is needed or the person is considered dead however this only applies to born humans as they have no way of gaining their brain activity back through any means other than a miracle while the unborn human will gain brain activity



Then there are arguments that an unborn living human is not as valuable as a born living human:

-An unborn human is not capable of surviving outside the womb. This implies that people in need of continued medical assistance are not equal to people without that need which is unjust and therefore wrong.
-An unborn human is not conscious/aware. This implies that all humans that are asleep are unequal to humans that are awake which is unjust and therefore wrong.
-An unborn human does not have any memories or experiences and is therefore not valued. This implies that younger humans are less worth than older humans and that people experience long term memory loss through dementia or other are less valued. This is unproductive and unjust and therefore wrong.
-An unborn human doesn’t look like a born human. This is irrelevant as we have established that it still is a human. It also implies that people should be valued based on how much they look like a regular born human meaning people with deformities or mutilations or less valued. This is unjust and therefore wrong.




To summarize:
An unborn human is proven to be a living human and has also proved to be as valuable as a born human. Killing a human for aforementioned reasons has been proven to be morally wrong and therefore performing abortion on your child in any case except when the mother or child will die during or soon after pregnancy is morally wrong.


@Jimcel @CloudyCuck
Good thread man
 
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I have always thought that it shouldn't be allowed unless the mother will die from birth or if the pregnancy was caused by rape.
 
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Dnr
 
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dnr + retard + anyone who don't support abortions are either extremely obsessed with the white race or sub 100 iq
 
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Lmfao I know for a fact you hate women nigga
 
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I have always thought that it shouldn't be allowed unless the mother will die from birth or if the pregnancy was caused by rape.
Shut the fuck up retard
 
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I was asked to prove the christian moral framework logically and will start with abortion as it is the most disputed subject.



This is the logical proof of why abortion is morally wrong unless in the circumstance that giving birth may lead to death or severe harm to the mother, death of the child, or in the case that the child has such severe deformities or mental defections that it will die shortly after birth. In all other circumstances it is morally wrong to perform an abortion. This proof assumes the inherent value of human life and will base itself on the belief that for any action to be morally good it must be just.

I will first prove why it is morally wrong to kill a human in all other cases than the aforementioned. Then I will prove why an unborn human has the same inherent value as a born human.




Scenarios where you kill a human for the same reason some people kill their unborn children:


-Not killing the human would cause inconvenience to you for many months ending with a 6 hour period of physical pain and you are responsible for putting yourself in this position. In this scenario it is morally wrong to kill a human as a life is more valuable than a period of inconvenience. Especially if you are the reason such a choice must be made.
-Not killing the human would mean economical hardship to you and you are responsible for putting yourself in this situation. In this scenario it is morally wrong to kill a human. The human life is worth more than any sum of money for which giving away that money doesn’t lead to starvation and death, which is not the case in this scenario. Especially when you are the reason such a choice must be made.
-Not killing the human would mean an end to your degenerate behaviour (partying, whoring, drinking etc.) In this case it is morally wrong to kill a human as you cannot justify a moral wrong by claiming it leads to a negative consequence. Then you are giving reason for why it is wrong.
-You were forced into any of the aforementioned scenarios (rape). The only effective difference between leading yourself into these scenarios or being forced into them is psychological. Your temporary psychological suffering is not worse than the death of a human and therefore it is still morally wrong to kill a human in this scenario. Note that the psychological suffering is temporary as you do not have the obligation to keep supporting the human after birth as there are adoption centres and foster care that can take care of your child if you so wish.
-The human would, according to you, suffer more throughout his/her life as a result of dysfunctional family, economical hardship or other than if you killed them. Since the person in question is not capable of deciding that them selves and you do not have mandate over their life taking such action is trespassing their right to life and is therefore morally wrong.








An unborn human has the same value as a born human:


First we will establish that an unborn human is human through:
Biology- They have the DNA of Homo Sapiens
Law- Irrelevant as law should be based on morality and not viceversa

Then we will establish that an unborn human is alive:
Biology- Their cells are replicating and converting energy which implies he/she is alive
Law- Irrelevant as law should be based on morality and not viceversa
Anatomy- There is the argument that brain activity is needed or the person is considered dead however this only applies to born humans as they have no way of gaining their brain activity back through any means other than a miracle while the unborn human will gain brain activity



Then there are arguments that an unborn living human is not as valuable as a born living human:

-An unborn human is not capable of surviving outside the womb. This implies that people in need of continued medical assistance are not equal to people without that need which is unjust and therefore wrong.
-An unborn human is not conscious/aware. This implies that all humans that are asleep are unequal to humans that are awake which is unjust and therefore wrong.
-An unborn human does not have any memories or experiences and is therefore not valued. This implies that younger humans are less worth than older humans and that people experience long term memory loss through dementia or other are less valued. This is unproductive and unjust and therefore wrong.
-An unborn human doesn’t look like a born human. This is irrelevant as we have established that it still is a human. It also implies that people should be valued based on how much they look like a regular born human meaning people with deformities or mutilations or less valued. This is unjust and therefore wrong.




To summarize:
An unborn human is proven to be a living human and has also proved to be as valuable as a born human. Killing a human for aforementioned reasons has been proven to be morally wrong and therefore performing abortion on your child in any case except when the mother or child will die during or soon after pregnancy is morally wrong.


@Jimcel @CloudyCuck
Dnr doesn’t need to be explained
 
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abortion is basically TND doe.
 
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mostly niggers killing their babies
True. However I am against killing any innocent soul be it white, black, asian (excluding jeets) or arab.
 
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How could you possibly disagree with what I said?
So let’s just say ur daughter she’s acting like a girl when she’s young you never know how your kid will turn out but listen she’s 14-16 and she meets a boy, u don’t know how much of these statistics on abortion is true half of this shit is hidden factual shit retard, your daughter then gets pregnant will you be willing to pay and help her nurture that own baby? And don’t say u would nigga cause youre on org, niggas on our stem from trauma and missing out something in life if you think, your insecure self is going to help your own daughter raise a child for 18 years lmfao I would like u to document that shit , put urself in other people’s shoes nigga
 
True. However I am against killing any innocent soul be it white, black, asian (excluding jeets) or arab.
nigger babies are future crimnals and coalburner creators they are not innocent
 
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nigger babies should start life aborted or in jail
 
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Morals and the existence of some inherent human value are just your opinion (about non existent ideas)
 
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nigger babies should start life aborted or in jail
Like I said, what makes u think anyone on here should have an opinion and people actually listen to them, most sanest org user btw
 
So let’s just say ur daughter she’s acting like a girl when she’s young you never know how your kid will turn out but listen she’s 14-16 and she meets a boy, u don’t know how much of these statistics on abortion is true half of this shit is hidden factual shit retard, your daughter then gets pregnant
I assume she has a healthy pregnancy as thats what this thread is about
will you be willing to pay and help her nurture that own baby? And don’t say u would nigga cause youre on org, niggas on our stem from trauma and missing out something in life if you think, your insecure self is going to help your own daughter raise a child for 18 years lmfao I would like u to document that shit , put urself in other people’s shoes nigga
"Would you really help raise your grandchild even tho it was made ourside of marriage" yeah no shit I would its still my blood and all humans are equal be it born within or outside of marriage
 
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How could you possibly disagree with what I said?
It has no intrinsic fucking moral value its a lump of cells without any capability of deploying conciousness. Life is not inherently positive, it should not be created unless the mother (or other caretaking parents) want it. Thinking life begins at conception is a conflation of a biological definition with a moral claim. Unless there is a cortex thalamus connection there is no reason to assign any value to it. If you think that as much life as possible should be created, then it would only be morally consistent to desire an ever-rising human population. No one wants that so its retarded to be against abortion. I guess if you want to control women but then get a life
 
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youre either the right branch of chrsitianty or morals do not exist. dont larp your own morals out of thin air they are either created by the right true god that you follow or we are all atoms floating on a rock o algo and they are just your subjective emotions
 
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Blah blah blah who fucking cares honestly
 
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It has no intrinsic fucking moral value its a lump of cells without any capability of deploying conciousness. Life is not intrinsicly positive, it should not be created unless the mother (or other caretaking parents) want it. Thinking life begins at conception is a conflation of a biological definition with a moral claim. Unless there is a cortex thalamus connection there is no reason to assign any value to it. If you think that as much life as possible should be created, then it would only be morally consistent to desire an ever-rising human population. No one wants that so its retarded to be against abortion. I guess if you want to control women but then get a life
Read the thread you fucking retard, you should have been aborted on the just basis of being a plauge to humanity
 
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I was asked to prove the christian moral framework logically and will start with abortion as it is the most disputed subject.



This is the logical proof of why abortion is morally wrong unless in the circumstance that giving birth may lead to death or severe harm to the mother, death of the child, or in the case that the child has such severe deformities or mental defections that it will die shortly after birth. In all other circumstances it is morally wrong to perform an abortion. This proof assumes the inherent value of human life and will base itself on the belief that for any action to be morally good it must be just.

I will first prove why it is morally wrong to kill a human in all other cases than the aforementioned. Then I will prove why an unborn human has the same inherent value as a born human.




Scenarios where you kill a human for the same reason some people kill their unborn children:


-Not killing the human would cause inconvenience to you for many months ending with a 6 hour period of physical pain and you are responsible for putting yourself in this position. In this scenario it is morally wrong to kill a human as a life is more valuable than a period of inconvenience. Especially if you are the reason such a choice must be made.
-Not killing the human would mean economical hardship to you and you are responsible for putting yourself in this situation. In this scenario it is morally wrong to kill a human. The human life is worth more than any sum of money for which giving away that money doesn’t lead to starvation and death, which is not the case in this scenario. Especially when you are the reason such a choice must be made.
-Not killing the human would mean an end to your degenerate behaviour (partying, whoring, drinking etc.) In this case it is morally wrong to kill a human as you cannot justify a moral wrong by claiming it leads to a negative consequence. Then you are giving reason for why it is wrong.
-You were forced into any of the aforementioned scenarios (rape). The only effective difference between leading yourself into these scenarios or being forced into them is psychological. Your temporary psychological suffering is not worse than the death of a human and therefore it is still morally wrong to kill a human in this scenario. Note that the psychological suffering is temporary as you do not have the obligation to keep supporting the human after birth as there are adoption centres and foster care that can take care of your child if you so wish.
-The human would, according to you, suffer more throughout his/her life as a result of dysfunctional family, economical hardship or other than if you killed them. Since the person in question is not capable of deciding that them selves and you do not have mandate over their life taking such action is trespassing their right to life and is therefore morally wrong.








An unborn human has the same value as a born human:


First we will establish that an unborn human is human through:
Biology- They have the DNA of Homo Sapiens
Law- Irrelevant as law should be based on morality and not viceversa

Then we will establish that an unborn human is alive:
Biology- Their cells are replicating and converting energy which implies he/she is alive
Law- Irrelevant as law should be based on morality and not viceversa
Anatomy- There is the argument that brain activity is needed or the person is considered dead however this only applies to born humans as they have no way of gaining their brain activity back through any means other than a miracle while the unborn human will gain brain activity



Then there are arguments that an unborn living human is not as valuable as a born living human:

-An unborn human is not capable of surviving outside the womb. This implies that people in need of continued medical assistance are not equal to people without that need which is unjust and therefore wrong.
-An unborn human is not conscious/aware. This implies that all humans that are asleep are unequal to humans that are awake which is unjust and therefore wrong.
-An unborn human does not have any memories or experiences and is therefore not valued. This implies that younger humans are less worth than older humans and that people experience long term memory loss through dementia or other are less valued. This is unproductive and unjust and therefore wrong.
-An unborn human doesn’t look like a born human. This is irrelevant as we have established that it still is a human. It also implies that people should be valued based on how much they look like a regular born human meaning people with deformities or mutilations or less valued. This is unjust and therefore wrong.




To summarize:
An unborn human is proven to be a living human and has also proved to be as valuable as a born human. Killing a human for aforementioned reasons has been proven to be morally wrong and therefore performing abortion on your child in any case except when the mother or child will die during or soon after pregnancy is morally wrong.


@Jimcel @CloudyCuck
Mirin the effort bhai, high iq thread
 
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I assume she has a healthy pregnancy as thats what this thread is about

"Would you really help raise your grandchild even tho it was made ourside of marriage" yeah no shit I would its still my blood and all humans are equal be it born within or outside of marriage
You’re a fool stop lying to urself I guarantee u, u would never ever be in that position if u don’t get off org making statements , the fact u think u can confidentially make an opinion like that and think to post it is jester behaviour
 
Reddit essay about morality vs:
 
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All these 2025 users need to be roped
 
So let’s just say ur daughter she’s acting like a girl when she’s young you never know how your kid will turn out but listen she’s 14-16 and she meets a boy, u don’t know how much of these statistics on abortion is true half of this shit is hidden factual shit retard, your daughter then gets pregnant will you be willing to pay and help her nurture that own baby? And don’t say u would nigga cause youre on org, niggas on our stem from trauma and missing out something in life if you think, your insecure self is going to help your own daughter raise a child for 18 years lmfao I would like u to document that shit , put urself in other people’s shoes nigga
That would be my daughter's fault if she got pregnant

1. If you're worried about that, you could just put her on birth control

2. If she gives birth, you can put the baby up for adoption
 
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Reddit essay about morality vs:

70% of liberal foids dont realize what an abortion actually is and if they did they wouldnt be pro choice, they just think they are because some satanist succubus role model of theirs told them to be
 
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You’re a fool stop lying to urself I guarantee u, u would never ever be in that position if u don’t get off org making statements , the fact u think u can confidentially make an opinion like that and think to post it is jester behaviour
you sound like a man in his 50s who regrets not having a family and now goes to online forums to pester young aspiring men
 
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That would be my daughter's fault if she got pregnant

1. If you're worried about that, you could just put her on birth control

2. If she gives birth, you can put the baby up for adoption
- tension 2026
 
I didn't read, but I'll still be pro-abortion anyways.

It's a great means of passive eugenics, and a child shouldn't have to be raised in a bad environment.
 
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you sound like a man in his 50s who regrets not having a family and now goes to online forums to pester young aspiring men
No where near my 50s g, I’ve see a lot for my age and most of u here are just jesters bro, social rejects, over thinkers, wanna find a faster way to do something, nothing wrong with that but what makes u think u can have a valid opinion about something controversial, u have no empathy i got a question have u ever had a ltr?
 
I was asked to prove the christian moral framework logically and will start with abortion as it is the most disputed subject.



This is the logical proof of why abortion is morally wrong unless in the circumstance that giving birth may lead to death or severe harm to the mother, death of the child, or in the case that the child has such severe deformities or mental defections that it will die shortly after birth. In all other circumstances it is morally wrong to perform an abortion. This proof assumes the inherent value of human life and will base itself on the belief that for any action to be morally good it must be just.

I will first prove why it is morally wrong to kill a human in all other cases than the aforementioned. Then I will prove why an unborn human has the same inherent value as a born human.




Scenarios where you kill a human for the same reason some people kill their unborn children:


-Not killing the human would cause inconvenience to you for many months ending with a 6 hour period of physical pain and you are responsible for putting yourself in this position. In this scenario it is morally wrong to kill a human as a life is more valuable than a period of inconvenience. Especially if you are the reason such a choice must be made.
-Not killing the human would mean economical hardship to you and you are responsible for putting yourself in this situation. In this scenario it is morally wrong to kill a human. The human life is worth more than any sum of money for which giving away that money doesn’t lead to starvation and death, which is not the case in this scenario. Especially when you are the reason such a choice must be made.
-Not killing the human would mean an end to your degenerate behaviour (partying, whoring, drinking etc.) In this case it is morally wrong to kill a human as you cannot justify a moral wrong by claiming it leads to a negative consequence. Then you are giving reason for why it is wrong.
-You were forced into any of the aforementioned scenarios (rape). The only effective difference between leading yourself into these scenarios or being forced into them is psychological. Your temporary psychological suffering is not worse than the death of a human and therefore it is still morally wrong to kill a human in this scenario. Note that the psychological suffering is temporary as you do not have the obligation to keep supporting the human after birth as there are adoption centres and foster care that can take care of your child if you so wish.
-The human would, according to you, suffer more throughout his/her life as a result of dysfunctional family, economical hardship or other than if you killed them. Since the person in question is not capable of deciding that them selves and you do not have mandate over their life taking such action is trespassing their right to life and is therefore morally wrong.








An unborn human has the same value as a born human:


First we will establish that an unborn human is human through:
Biology- They have the DNA of Homo Sapiens
Law- Irrelevant as law should be based on morality and not viceversa

Then we will establish that an unborn human is alive:
Biology- Their cells are replicating and converting energy which implies he/she is alive
Law- Irrelevant as law should be based on morality and not viceversa
Anatomy- There is the argument that brain activity is needed or the person is considered dead however this only applies to born humans as they have no way of gaining their brain activity back through any means other than a miracle while the unborn human will gain brain activity



Then there are arguments that an unborn living human is not as valuable as a born living human:

-An unborn human is not capable of surviving outside the womb. This implies that people in need of continued medical assistance are not equal to people without that need which is unjust and therefore wrong.
-An unborn human is not conscious/aware. This implies that all humans that are asleep are unequal to humans that are awake which is unjust and therefore wrong.
-An unborn human does not have any memories or experiences and is therefore not valued. This implies that younger humans are less worth than older humans and that people experience long term memory loss through dementia or other are less valued. This is unproductive and unjust and therefore wrong.
-An unborn human doesn’t look like a born human. This is irrelevant as we have established that it still is a human. It also implies that people should be valued based on how much they look like a regular born human meaning people with deformities or mutilations or less valued. This is unjust and therefore wrong.




To summarize:
An unborn human is proven to be a living human and has also proved to be as valuable as a born human. Killing a human for aforementioned reasons has been proven to be morally wrong and therefore performing abortion on your child in any case except when the mother or child will die during or soon after pregnancy is morally wrong.


@Jimcel @CloudyCuck
Lowkey dnr use logic
 
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I will prove them and tag you
Impossible. Never done before
If i find a child in the woods and rape it, butcher it and eat its organs absolutely nothing happens naturally. No punishment, nothing
I just get healthier and satisfy my needs. It's good for me and bad for them, there's no general goods and bads
All of them vary from person to person depending on what flavor of behavioural control brainwashing you received but the natural state is none

And no human has inherent value, that doesn't even mean anything in the first place, vague ass term
 
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I have always thought that it shouldn't be allowed unless the mother will die from birth or if the pregnancy was caused by rape.
The chance that an abortion procedure will cause permanent harm to a woman for life is higher than the chance that it will occur after childbirth
 
Impossible. Never done before
If i find a child in the woods and rape it, butcher it and eat its organs absolutely nothing happens naturally. No punishment, nothing
I just get healthier and satisfy my needs. It's good for me and bad for them, there's no general goods and bads
All of them vary from person to person depending on what flavor of behavioural control brainwashing you received but the natural state is none
Another sane person
 
Based post. An alternative argument against abortion, states that if we do not know whether the fetus is a human or "a clump of cells" it is safest and most morally correct to assume that it is human.
 
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Reddit essay about morality vs:

Good video thoguh it describes abortion for more developed babies and uses animation to invoke disgust in the viewer. My reddit essay provides logical reasoning for why all abortions no matter the stage of development is wrong :geek:
 
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So let’s just say ur daughter she’s acting like a girl when she’s young you never know how your kid will turn out but listen she’s 14-16 and she meets a boy, u don’t know how much of these statistics on abortion is true half of this shit is hidden factual shit retard, your daughter then gets pregnant will you be willing to pay and help her nurture that own baby? And don’t say u would nigga cause youre on org, niggas on our stem from trauma and missing out something in life if you think, your insecure self is going to help your own daughter raise a child for 18 years lmfao I would like u to document that shit , put urself in other people’s shoes nigga
I would abort it because she had a child too late and the baby has a higher risk of being subhuman because of that
 
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Read the thread you fucking retard, you should have been aborted on the just basis of being a plauge to humanity
Skimmed through it now, shitty thread.

"This proof assumes the inherent value of human life and will base itself on the belief that for any action to be morally good it must be just."

Making an assumption about the only debate that matters:lul:

"An unborn human is not conscious/aware. This implies that all humans that are asleep are unequal to humans that are awake which is unjust and therefore wrong."

1. They have the ability to regain conciousness (If they don't, we typically pull the plug on them)

2. there is a brain function threshold (even though I personally ont think this is the best argument)

3. Having the potential to become a person is not the same as being one. As I mentioned in my other post, to be morally consistent you would need to be for an ever growing human population and against all forms of birthcontrol. Are you for that? I don't think so, you're just letting your feelings delude your judgement
 
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No where near my 50s g, I’ve see a lot for my age and most of u here are just jesters bro, social rejects, over thinkers, wanna find a faster way to do something, nothing wrong with that but what makes u think u can have a valid opinion about something controversial, u have no empathy i got a question have u ever had a ltr?
"you havent seen the things ive seen" "only top sigmas know what i feel" "bare my witness" just shut up bro
 
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