HIRING AN ESCORT for LOOKSMAXING

[Physiocrat33]

TLDR; Looksmax.org is dumb because its men rating other men, whereas what matters is how women rate you. If you ask women what your primary flaws are they will always lie. Prostitutes may be the group of women least likely to lie to you if you ask them what your facial flaws because you are incentivizing the truth from them with money and no request for sex. Even though this seems like a waste of money to some, the money you could be potentially saving and putting to good use due to the more insightful information you will receive from a woman telling you why you are actually ugly far supersedes the measly few hundred dollars this would cost you. Reason for why prostitutes would be a good choice for the truth is listed in my initial post.

One of the main problems with looksmax.org is that this site is men trying to determine what makes men attractive or unattractive to women. We, as straight men, are not attracted to men and therefore are unable to properly rate mens appearance. Even if we were gay, we would still be men rating other men based on our male brain, not through a female’s pov. Now of course there are some obvious things like women will always prefer a sharp jawline over a birdcel jawline; however beauty and attractiveness is very complex and there are thousands of different connections between different features. Yes for example, evenly spaced eyes are better than eyes that are too close together or eyes too far apart, obviously. The only true indication of your level of attractiveness is how women treat and respond to you. Now the point I just made is nothing new and has been written countless times on this forum; however I have never seen anyone take it further. If a man's view of what is and isn't attractive is borderline irrelevant and only women's behavior towards you is relevant, this entire website is far too speculative. It would be far more valuable to try to figure out what your true failos are by asking women. Now of course the problem with this is that women will basically always lie. Women lie because they are high in agreeableness, gain nothing by telling you the truth, and at either a conscious or subconscious level fear you becoming angry at their explicit rejection. If you ask female friends they will lie, you ask women in your family they will lie, and you can not ask girls you are dating and hooking up with because they will probably lie and you can’t ask a women you’re sexually or romantically involved with what's wrong with your face because even if she genuinely likes you asking such a thing would ruin you in her mind and turn her pussy into the sahara desert. One might say, why not go on omegle or have random girls rate pictures of you, the problem with this is that photographs do not transfer 100% IRL and actually change your appearance. There is lens distortion that changes your facial ratios, there is no real scale to see how large everything is in total(only how large everything is in relation to other features), and photos are 2d and do not showcase what you truly look like in real life in motion. Now what woman in person is most likely to be honest with you?I’m pretty sure it's an escort. I don't know for sure as I have never spoken to an escort and I do believe that they will definitely initially lie and may possibly never tell you the truth; however out of all the women you could ask, I believe that a prostitute is most likely to tell you the truth. There are a few reasons I believe this: 1. You are literally paying this woman, she might feel some obligation due to this, and you can always offer her more money for the truth about what is wrong with your face. You might think this whole thing is a waste of money, but consider that you might potentially waste 10’s of thousands of dollars on surgery that a bunch of men told you to do who have no idea what women actually find attractive, as opposed to spending a few hundred dollars on some invaluable looksmaxing info. 2. If you arrange a meeting with an escort and tell her that you dont even want to fuck, just talk and ask her what your most repulsive failos are, she may be more up to that because she was anticipating having to fuck you and now she doesnt have to and is making an easy buck 3. Prostitutes are presumably more disagreeable, less socially conformist, and more desensitized to men in general. This means prostitutes are most likely to be truthful opposed to friends, sisters, mothers, random women. They've been through the ringer lol. Obviously the counter argument to all this is that the escorts have an incentive to lie to you in order to keep you as a client and they are better at lying than the average women because thats their job, lying to the men they fuck convicing them that they are attracted to them in order to retain clients. This aside, I believe that the chance that these whores will be more truthful than the average woman is high and if you’re not completely retarded, you will be able to tell if the bitch is lying.

 

[Prince88]

Amazing formatting bro. I 100% read it all.

 

[Gaygymmaxx]

If you have a brain you can filter the psl god retards and improve your looks. Atleast 90% of the forum is incoherent Indians from the gutters of mumbai so its not like the opinions of others are worth focusing on anyway. Aquire your info and don't waste time.

What happens if you waste time:

 

[Blond3cel]

Whats happening today all those unreadable Greycel shit threads ?

Dnrd

 

[RottingButIn6.4]

Amazing formatting bro. I 100% read it all.

I Havent read shit and this looks like a schizo or ADHD user

 

[Gaygymmaxx]

Whats happening today all those unreadable Greycel shit threads ?

Dnrd

Forum is blowing up maybe? They are getting bad tbh

 

[Abhorrence]

 

[Physiocrat33]

I Havent read shit and this looks like a schizo or ADHD user

hahaha bro wtf

 

[Deleted member 21467]

You don’t have to pay to find your flaws, you can learn your flaws through understanding what makes a face attractive on YouTub.

 

[Physiocrat33]

You don’t have to pay to find your flaws, you can learn your flaws through understanding what makes a face attractive on YouTub.

youre either an idiot or im in too deep, i know every single facial ratio and measure peoples face all day on the computer and even have calipers and rulers that i use to measure my face irl everyday, its still more complicated that this.

 

[Deleted member 25377]

Garbo thread chico is ideal

 

[Prince88]

Best way to work out your falios is to just cover certain parts of your face or stretch the skin.

- You can manipulate canthal tilt and eyelid tightnes by pulling skin around eyes,
- same with cheekbones, jaw, mouth
- You can push your ears back,
- Put a beanie on to cover forehead etc

 

[Physiocrat33]

Best way to work out your falios is to just cover certain parts of your face or stretch the skin.

- You can manipulate canthal tilt and eyelid tightnes by pulling skin around eyes,
- same with cheekbones, jaw, mouth
- You can push your ears back,
- Put a beanie on to cover forehead etc

yeah dude im way past all that, im not retarded, ive fucked 21 women, and been studying this stuff for 2 years. I have different kinds of physical calipers, know all my facial ratios, know ideal facial ratios, etc. All of this is literally less important than what a woman actually sees wrong with your face when she looks at you. Those things can correlate of course, but what Im trying to say is that a womans intial flaw detection is more valuable to know than to cross reference your face with some ideal ratios determined by studies or psl.

 

[Prince88]

yeah dude im way past all that, im not retarded, ive fucked 21 women, and been studying this stuff for 2 years. I have different kinds of physical calipers, know all my facial ratios, know ideal facial ratios, etc. All of this is literally less important than what a woman actually sees wrong woth your face when she looks at you. Those things can correlate of course, but what Im trying to say is that a womans intial flaw detection is more valuable to know than to cross reference your face with some ideal ratios determined by studies or psl.

why not just ask one of the girls you fuck?

 

[Physiocrat33]

why not just ask one of the girls you fuck?

I dont fuck them anymore, i havent fucked a girl in 6 months. Ive descended hard, more so in self esteem than in looks, but i have descend in both

 

[Physiocrat33]

i reread my intital post and was busting up laughing at work, this is the most retarded thinf ive ever written sounds totally schizo and maniac lol. the idea is of course correct but the writing is shit. logic is sound and if people cant see that they are retarded.

 

[Physiocrat33]

I dont fuck them anymore, i havent fucked a girl in 6 months. Ive descended hard, more so in self esteem than in looks, but i have descend in both

even if i was fucking chicks i wouldnt ask them because that would obviously sabatoge my relationship with them

 

[escortcel]

No you fucking retard it's the opposite, an escort will never tell you you're ugly because they want you to come back.
Anyway it wouldnt make much difference. Some of them complimented my eyes which I think are pretty bad. And my jaw is mega recessed.

Saddest part is more than a few have asked why I don't have a girlfriend and I really don't know how to reply

 

[Physiocrat33]

No you fucking retard it's the opposite, an escort will never tell you you're ugly because they want you to come back.
Anyway it wouldnt make much difference. Some of them complimented my eyes which I think are pretty bad. And my jaw is mega recessed.

Saddest part is more than a few have asked why I don't have a girlfriend and I really don't know how to reply

yes interesting, i wrote about that in my schizo ramblings. ive never been to an escort so idk, but read my reasons for thinking that they are more likely to be truthful again. i also wrote that i believe they have a large incentive to lie to you, potentially greater than a normie woman, howver there are reasons they might be less likely to lie as well

 

[LowTrust]

trashy women are more likely to have trashy preferences (think thugs, gangsters etc)

 

[Deleted member 23218]

Best way to work out your falios is to just cover certain parts of your face or stretch the skin.

- You can manipulate canthal tilt and eyelid tightnes by pulling skin around eyes,
- same with cheekbones, jaw, mouth
- You can push your ears back,
- Put a beanie on to cover forehead etc

How to achieve the stretched skin look

 

[Physiocrat33]

trashy women are more likely to have trashy preferences (think thugs, gangsters etc)

thats true, r-strategists(fast-life-history strategy) more emphasis on high dimorphism

 

[escortcel]

yes interesting, i wrote about that in my schizo ramblings. ive never been to an escort so idk, but read my reasons for thinking that they are more likely to be truthful again. i also wrote that i believe they have a large incentive to lie to you, potentially greater than a normie woman, howver there are reasons they might be less likely to lie as well

You're contradicting yourself. But I get what you're trying to say. I'll try it next time. But do you think most people understand how faces work? She'll probably just say my nose is too big or something.

 

[Physiocrat33]

You're contradicting yourself. But I get what you're trying to say. I'll try it next time. But do you think most people understand how faces work? She'll probably just say my nose is too big or something

Im not contradicting myself, the answer to this question depends on a number of factors and is more complex than it being one way or the other. There is both a greate incentive to lie and a greater likleyhood of truth telling for different reasons. High risk high reward kinda thing. Your point abou them not really knowing whats wrong is valid. I just imahined that I would walk them throigh the different things they may not initally know how to describe, ive explained this stuff to normies and its really not all that complicated.

 

[Prince88]

How to achieve the stretched skin look

Implants or bimax

 

[escortcel]

Im not contradicting myself, the answer to this question depends on a number of factors and is more complex than it being one way or the other. There is both a greate incentive to lie and a greater likleyhood of truth telling for different reasons. High risk high reward kinda thing. Your point abou them not really knowing whats wrong is valid. I just imahined that I would walk them throigh the different things they may not initally know how to describe, ive explained this stuff to normies and its really not all that complicated.

I think I'd rather pay someone more qualified if I'm looking for facial advice. I see a lot of escorts so what I'd like is just a survey/review from each new girl on whether I'm ugly/avg/attractive. But there's no incentive to be truthful on that. Although you can kinda tell with experience from how they act.

 

[RottingButIn6.4]

hahaha bro wtf

Sorry idk how a normal guy is supposed to think all of that and write it as well

 

[SubSigma]

Bruh everyone is making it over complicated. Look at men women are attracted to and try to emulate their features through soft/hardmaxing. Women are attracted to these tik tok pretty boys and not these alien looking guys.

 

[Physiocrat33]

Sorry idk how a normal guy is supposed to think all of that and write it as well

well based off reading my writing, what do you think is wrong with me? to be fair i wrote it all super quickly on a tiny phone

 

[RottingButIn6.4]

well based off reading my writing, what do you think is wrong with me? to be fair i wrote it all super quickly on a tiny phone

Autism, ADHD 50/50 and tbh u either schizo or be smokin that zaza cos idk how u came up with payin a prostitute for a rating

 

[Deleted member 30600]

 

[TheAnomaly]

If you are good looking. You will already know it.

 

[Physiocrat33]

If you are good looking. You will already know it.

obviously, what does that have to do with this thread u idiot

 

[Flanked]

TLDR; Looksmax.org is dumb because its men rating other men, whereas what matters is how women rate you. If you ask women what your primary flaws are they will always lie. Prostitutes may be the group of women least likely to lie to you if you ask them what your facial flaws because you are incentivizing the truth from them with money and no request for sex. Even though this seems like a waste of money to some, the money you could be potentially saving and putting to good use due to the more insightful information you will receive from a woman telling you why you are actually ugly far supersedes the measly few hundred dollars this would cost you. Reason for why prostitutes would be a good choice for the truth is listed in my initial post.

One of the main problems with looksmax.org is that this site is men trying to determine what makes men attractive or unattractive to women. We, as straight men, are not attracted to men and therefore are unable to properly rate mens appearance. Even if we were gay, we would still be men rating other men based on our male brain, not through a female’s pov. Now of course there are some obvious things like women will always prefer a sharp jawline over a birdcel jawline; however beauty and attractiveness is very complex and there are thousands of different connections between different features. Yes for example, evenly spaced eyes are better than eyes that are too close together or eyes too far apart, obviously. The only true indication of your level of attractiveness is how women treat and respond to you. Now the point I just made is nothing new and has been written countless times on this forum; however I have never seen anyone take it further. If a man's view of what is and isn't attractive is borderline irrelevant and only women's behavior towards you is relevant, this entire website is far too speculative. It would be far more valuable to try to figure out what your true failos are by asking women. Now of course the problem with this is that women will basically always lie. Women lie because they are high in agreeableness, gain nothing by telling you the truth, and at either a conscious or subconscious level fear you becoming angry at their explicit rejection. If you ask female friends they will lie, you ask women in your family they will lie, and you can not ask girls you are dating and hooking up with because they will probably lie and you can’t ask a women you’re sexually or romantically involved with what's wrong with your face because even if she genuinely likes you asking such a thing would ruin you in her mind and turn her pussy into the sahara desert. One might say, why not go on omegle or have random girls rate pictures of you, the problem with this is that photographs do not transfer 100% IRL and actually change your appearance. There is lens distortion that changes your facial ratios, there is no real scale to see how large everything is in total(only how large everything is in relation to other features), and photos are 2d and do not showcase what you truly look like in real life in motion. Now what woman in person is most likely to be honest with you?I’m pretty sure it's an escort. I don't know for sure as I have never spoken to an escort and I do believe that they will definitely initially lie and may possibly never tell you the truth; however out of all the women you could ask, I believe that a prostitute is most likely to tell you the truth. There are a few reasons I believe this: 1. You are literally paying this woman, she might feel some obligation due to this, and you can always offer her more money for the truth about what is wrong with your face. You might think this whole thing is a waste of money, but consider that you might potentially waste 10’s of thousands of dollars on surgery that a bunch of men told you to do who have no idea what women actually find attractive, as opposed to spending a few hundred dollars on some invaluable looksmaxing info. 2. If you arrange a meeting with an escort and tell her that you dont even want to fuck, just talk and ask her what your most repulsive failos are, she may be more up to that because she was anticipating having to fuck you and now she doesnt have to and is making an easy buck 3. Prostitutes are presumably more disagreeable, less socially conformist, and more desensitized to men in general. This means prostitutes are most likely to be truthful opposed to friends, sisters, mothers, random women. They've been through the ringer lol. Obviously the counter argument to all this is that the escorts have an incentive to lie to you in order to keep you as a client and they are better at lying than the average women because thats their job, lying to the men they fuck convicing them that they are attracted to them in order to retain clients. This aside, I believe that the chance that these whores will be more truthful than the average woman is high and if you’re not completely retarded, you will be able to tell if the bitch is lying.

Overall, solid argument, seems that out of all women an escort is most likely to tell you the truth.

But I don’t think it necessarily means that men rating other men is worthless, we can imply beauty by observing the reaction of other females to then quantity and set beauty standards, so much so that the more exposure you get to attractive males, the more attuned your brain gets to the female gaze

Anecdotally, I can now tell with higher chance of success if a dude is good looking to females and even sexual appeal depending on their demeanor just because of how much I research and been exposed to the topic

 

[Physiocrat33]

Autism, ADHD 50/50 and tbh u either schizo or be smokin that zaza cos idk how u came up with payin a prostitute for a rating

idk, im most likely have some kind of cluster b personality disorder. no different than most people here. i stopped caring about that kind of stuff awhile ago. i just try to keep my stress levels low and that seems to help. What really matters i how successful you are in your life, family wise, dating wise, financially, educationally, etc. Things are going pretty good and Im pretty successful for my age and you cant change your personality anyway so no point in thinking about it. Waste of time really.

 

[Physiocrat33]

Overall, solid argument, seems that out of all women an escort is most likely to tell you the truth.

But I don’t think it necessarily means that men rating other men is worthless, we can imply beauty by observing the reaction of other females to then quantity and set beauty standards, so much so that the more exposure you get to attractive males, the more attuned your brain gets to the female gaze

Anecdotally, I can now tell with higher chance of success if a dude is good looking to females and even sexual appeal depending on their demeanor just because of how much I research and been exposed to the topic

Thank you for understanding my argument. A lot of people did not understand, they probably didnt even read it in full, although thats fair because it is poorely written and very long. I never made the claim that 100% prostitues will tell you the truth, and I even mentioned that they theoretically have a greater incentive than a normie woman to lie to you. There is however simultaneously a greater likelyhood that the prositute will tell you the truth. These things can coexist because the motivation behind lying that is unique to a prostitue is not the same motivation that would prompt a prostitute to tell the truth. I dont know why thats so hard for people to comprehend. One reason that I forgot to mention as for why a whore might potentially be more truthful is that in conjuction with their kind of dehumanized shellshocked brain, they are also generally lower iq. Although higher iq people tend to lie less, some one that is extremely stupid might not even recognize that tactical error they are making by lying and proceed to tell the truth. As for your point about mens ratings having validity and that they should not be discounted, I agree with this. Mens ratings are not useless and I as well as am better able to predict if a guy will be found attractive by women than when I was a normie, wayyyyy better; however at the end of the day, noone can argue that men rating other men and telling them what features dont jive together in their face is going to be much more speculative than getting a bunch girls to tell you their truthful "icks" they have about your face. The only problem is attaining that information is extremely difficult, like i mean getting specific information, hence my post.

 

[Banasura]

living in vegas must be nice, being a targeted individual it's highly implied ur only going to be able to fuck sex workers. Will prob end up just doing this if I never get an arranged marriage with how interconnected the evil internet has become to intervene in one's life in an unnecessary way.

 

[jware]

TLDR; Looksmax.org is dumb because its men rating other men, whereas what matters is how women rate you. If you ask women what your primary flaws are they will always lie. Prostitutes may be the group of women least likely to lie to you if you ask them what your facial flaws because you are incentivizing the truth from them with money and no request for sex. Even though this seems like a waste of money to some, the money you could be potentially saving and putting to good use due to the more insightful information you will receive from a woman telling you why you are actually ugly far supersedes the measly few hundred dollars this would cost you. Reason for why prostitutes would be a good choice for the truth is listed in my initial post.

One of the main problems with looksmax.org is that this site is men trying to determine what makes men attractive or unattractive to women. We, as straight men, are not attracted to men and therefore are unable to properly rate mens appearance. Even if we were gay, we would still be men rating other men based on our male brain, not through a female’s pov. Now of course there are some obvious things like women will always prefer a sharp jawline over a birdcel jawline; however beauty and attractiveness is very complex and there are thousands of different connections between different features. Yes for example, evenly spaced eyes are better than eyes that are too close together or eyes too far apart, obviously. The only true indication of your level of attractiveness is how women treat and respond to you. Now the point I just made is nothing new and has been written countless times on this forum; however I have never seen anyone take it further. If a man's view of what is and isn't attractive is borderline irrelevant and only women's behavior towards you is relevant, this entire website is far too speculative. It would be far more valuable to try to figure out what your true failos are by asking women. Now of course the problem with this is that women will basically always lie. Women lie because they are high in agreeableness, gain nothing by telling you the truth, and at either a conscious or subconscious level fear you becoming angry at their explicit rejection. If you ask female friends they will lie, you ask women in your family they will lie, and you can not ask girls you are dating and hooking up with because they will probably lie and you can’t ask a women you’re sexually or romantically involved with what's wrong with your face because even if she genuinely likes you asking such a thing would ruin you in her mind and turn her pussy into the sahara desert. One might say, why not go on omegle or have random girls rate pictures of you, the problem with this is that photographs do not transfer 100% IRL and actually change your appearance. There is lens distortion that changes your facial ratios, there is no real scale to see how large everything is in total(only how large everything is in relation to other features), and photos are 2d and do not showcase what you truly look like in real life in motion. Now what woman in person is most likely to be honest with you?I’m pretty sure it's an escort. I don't know for sure as I have never spoken to an escort and I do believe that they will definitely initially lie and may possibly never tell you the truth; however out of all the women you could ask, I believe that a prostitute is most likely to tell you the truth. There are a few reasons I believe this: 1. You are literally paying this woman, she might feel some obligation due to this, and you can always offer her more money for the truth about what is wrong with your face. You might think this whole thing is a waste of money, but consider that you might potentially waste 10’s of thousands of dollars on surgery that a bunch of men told you to do who have no idea what women actually find attractive, as opposed to spending a few hundred dollars on some invaluable looksmaxing info. 2. If you arrange a meeting with an escort and tell her that you dont even want to fuck, just talk and ask her what your most repulsive failos are, she may be more up to that because she was anticipating having to fuck you and now she doesnt have to and is making an easy buck 3. Prostitutes are presumably more disagreeable, less socially conformist, and more desensitized to men in general. This means prostitutes are most likely to be truthful opposed to friends, sisters, mothers, random women. They've been through the ringer lol. Obviously the counter argument to all this is that the escorts have an incentive to lie to you in order to keep you as a client and they are better at lying than the average women because thats their job, lying to the men they fuck convicing them that they are attracted to them in order to retain clients. This aside, I believe that the chance that these whores will be more truthful than the average woman is high and if you’re not completely retarded, you will be able to tell if the bitch is lying.

you trying to cope because when you went on Omegle sll the men rated you like shit but when the women rated you she said you look better
(I read the first line)

 

[Physiocrat33]

you trying to cope because when you went on Omegle sll the men rated you like shit but when the women rated you she said you look better
(I read the first line)

dude are u ok mentally? what kind of jobs can u get with your iq

 

[Physiocrat33]

living in vegas must be nice, being a targeted individual it's highly implied ur only going to be able to fuck sex workers. Will prob end up just doing this if I never get an arranged marriage with how interconnected the evil internet has become to intervene in one's life in an unnecessary way.

idk bro this thread is just an idea, ive never fucked a hooker, nor will i probably ever

 

[jware]

dude are u ok mentally? what kind of jobs can u get with your iq

Who is ok mentally in this form

 

[Physiocrat33]

Who is ok mentally in this form

true if you mean being mentally normal, but i used the word mentally to refer to intellect. there are people on this forum who are above average iq.

 

[Physiocrat33]

Who is ok mentally in this form

Imagine how retarded that dude is. This guy believes that I wrote this entire extremely long post because i supposedly went on omegle and the guys said im ugly and the girls said im hot. That never happened, but lets say it did, wouldnt that be a good thing. It certainly wouldnt inspire me to write this post. What a fuckin retard. He probably eats gummy worms that he buys with food stamps. Fucking creatin.

 

[Blackgymmax]

Didnt read but asking escorts is retarded. You need the opinion of women in general and you cant ask then for your specific flaws. They wouldn't know you retard. Women literally look at depressed eyes with a henry cavill tier jaw and say they they love droopy or drug dealer eyes

 

[Blackgymmax]

Youre also less likely to get the truth because youre literally paying them and they want to see you again. Youre most likely those subhuman ugly guys who pay for penis rates

 

[Blackgymmax]

true if you mean being mentally normal, but i used the word mentally to refer to intellect. there are people on this forum who are above average iq.

Na bro youre just some ugly incel

 

[jware]

Imagine how retarded that dude is. This guy believes that I wrote this entire extremely long post because i supposedly went on omegle and the guys said im ugly and the girls said im hot. That never happened, but lets say it did, wouldnt that be a good thing. It certainly wouldnt inspire me to write this post. What a fuckin retard. He probably eats gummy worms that he buys with food stamps. Fucking creatin.

If you haven’t noticed you being mad is my enjoyment
classic high inhib incel

 

[jware]

Na bro youre just some ugly incel

They should pay me for my absolute enlightenment of Truth

 

[Blackgymmax]

They should pay me for my absolute enlightenment of Truth

Op is quite the pathetic retard. Paying escorts for face rates. Fucking escortcels are worthless fucks

 

[tombradylover]

Op is quite the pathetic retard. Paying escorts for face rates. Fucking escortcels are worthless fucks

Why pay escorts when ur on this site? U literally tell dudes they are ugly for free. Best service available IMO LOL