How are you supposed to dose AI's?

[VLX]

Hi, I was thinking about taking low dose Exemestane. I just turned 16 and haven't ordered it yet nor gotten a blood test. But after I get a blood test, how am I supposed to know how to adjust my AI dose to my estrogen?

Here is an example blood test from a random person on this forum: https://looksmax.org/threads/need-help-with-analyzing-my-bloodresults.700359/

From what you can see, he has 27 pg/ml of estradiol (im pretty sure). But with this info (I'm unsure if I am missing any other important information), how would he hypothetically adjust his AI dosage to put him in the 10 - 15 pg/ml range (Assuming he started with a 6.25 - 3.25 mg dose)? What calculations would have to be done? I just see people throwing around arbitrary numbers like 12.5 or 6.25 or 3.25 mg or whatever. How do you know how much to take to get the desired results and not go overboard?

Also, just as a side question, is it too risky to take Exemestane considering my mothers father has very prominent balding (he's like 80)? And one more thing, I am kind of confused about why Exemestane being a suicidal inhibitor is inherently bad (which is why people avoid it). Like isn't new estrogen just produced? If someone could explain I would greatly appreciate it.

 

[Kelly Oubre Jr]

retarded idea if youre not roiding which it doesnt sound like you are

 

[VLX]

retarded idea if youre not roiding which it doesnt sound like you are

Why would i have to roid though? i was thinking of maybe taking DSIP with CJC w DAC while I take Exemestane but I still need to research more to see if they are actually effective. And the downsides. DSIP looks pretty promising.

 

[Kelly Oubre Jr]

Why would i have to roid though?

because what the fuck are you achieving otherwise

 

[bttb]

because what the fuck are you achieving otherwise

He just said he's thinking about taking cjc, so probably heightmax if I had to guess

 

[VLX]

because what the fuck are you achieving otherwise

I mean the reason people take Ai with HGH is that HGH will just make you reach your potential height faster but your growth plates will close (and so the Ai is there to prevent the closure so you end up just continuing to grow). But if I just take the AI, I am stopping (or at least slowing) my growth plates from closing. And my body continues to produce HGH naturally right? So won't I just continue to grow past my genetic height limit, just at a slower rate? And I can still do things to just make me naturally produce more HGH right?

 

[Kelly Oubre Jr]

I mean the reason people take Ai with HGH is that HGH will just make you reach your potential height faster but your growth plates will close (and so the Ai is there to prevent the closure so you end up just continuing to grow)

no

But if I just take the AI, I am stopping (or at least slowing) my growth plates from closing

no

So won't I just continue to grow past my genetic height limit, just at a slower rate?

no

And I can still do things to just make me naturally produce more HGH right?

no

everything you said is wrong, cope or both

 

[VLX]

no


no


no


no

everything you said is wrong, cope or both

well then can you explain it. i have been on this forum for months, im just trying to find an answer.

 

[Foreverbrad]

You can’t calculate.

It’s experimental only. Test-measure-test-measure.

Ruinously expensive, especially for teenagers, hence none of them actually do it.

 

[VLX]

You can’t calculate.

It’s experimental only. Test-measure-test-measure.

Ruinously expensive, especially for teenagers, hence none of them actually do it.

Do most of the expenses come for the actual drug cost or just the amount of bloodtests?

 

[Foreverbrad]

Do most of the expenses come for the actual drug cost or just the amount of bloodtests?

The blood tests.

 

[MyDreamIsToBe183CM]

From what you can see, he has 27 pg/ml of estradiol (im pretty sure). But with this info (I'm unsure if I am missing any other important information), how would he hypothetically adjust his AI dosage to put him in the 10 - 15 pg/ml range (Assuming he started with a 6.25 - 3.25 mg dose)? What calculations would have to be done? I just see people throwing around arbitrary numbers like 12.5 or 6.25 or 3.25 mg or whatever. How do you know how much to take to get the desired results and not go overboard?

You can't know the exact dosage, even if you know your baseline levels. Everybody responds differently, the only way to truely know is through baseline. However, its still a good indicator to know a general amount you should dose.

I didn't get a blood test for my baseline estrogen levels like a retard, but I got a blood test after taking 6.25 MG ed of aromasin and it dropped my shit to 23 pg/mL, dont know how high it was before. I started taking letrozole instead and currently on 2.5 mg EOD. I will get more blood tests soon

But to answer your question, somebody with 27 pg/mL would probally need around 6.25 mg - 12.5 mg of exemestae everyday to bring it down to 10-15 on average, but it varies from people to people

 

[Kelly Oubre Jr]

well then can you explain it

either stay natural or roid properly. dont half ass it with these shitty copes

 

[MA_ascender]

either stay natural or roid properly. dont half ass it with these shitty copes

 

[VLX]

either stay natural or roid properly. dont half ass it with these shitty copes

alright. but i just dont understand how it is cope though. like why would it only work if i take extra roids?

 

[Kelly Oubre Jr]

alright. but i just dont understand how it is cope though. like why would it only work if i take extra roids?

tf you mean extra roids? you are planning to take nothing but aromasin. 0 roids are in the equation rn

 

[VLX]

tf you mean extra roids? you are planning to take nothing but aromasin. 0 roids are in the equation rn

well im not sure currently. but i was planning on taking it with something like DSIP and some people recommended CJC w DAC (don't know much about it though). i just don't understand why even if i did just take aromasin without extra stuff it would be bad.

 

[Kelly Oubre Jr]

i just don't understand why even if i did just take aromasin without extra stuff it would be bad.

because at best youre just doing nothing, at worst youre fucking up your liver, heart, brain, dick etc. why do people seem to have the impression that these things dont have side effects? if you are going to start unnaturally manipulating your hormones, you go all the way and do it properly with a full on steroid cycle. no point just taking random bullshit for no reason and risking the same side effects you risk while taking steroids

 

[VLX]

because at best youre just doing nothing, at worst youre fucking up your liver, heart, brain, dick etc. why do people seem to have the impression that these things dont have side effects? if you are going to start unnaturally manipulating your hormones, you go all the way and do it properly with a full on steroid cycle. no point just taking random bullshit for no reason and risking the same side effects you risk while taking steroids

do you know any good threads and/or studies by like pubmed or something that explains the potential risks? because i was under the impression that yes, because estrogen is an important hormone, especially for teen boys during puberty, reducing it would have side effects, but if you keep in it the range between 10 pg/ml and 15 pg/ml, the side effect are less dangerous and it is in the range in which growth plate closure is halted (or at least slowed down). and for the liver, can't you just take it sublingually? but the brain makes sense, considering estrogen is important for the neurons.

i mean you gotta understand, im not purposefully trying to be ignorant or annoying, im just trying to maximize all i can do during puberty before it's too late.

 

[Kelly Oubre Jr]

but if you keep in it the range between 10 pg/ml and 15 pg/ml, the side effect are less dangerous and it is in the range in which growth plate closure is halted

the brutal truth that you need to accept is that theres no way to guarantee to keep your growth plates open. first of all 10 to 15 is dangerously low for a lot of people. the ratio of estrogen to testosterone matters way more than the absolute value of estrogen. and different people have different receptors too, one person could have 30pg/ml and have low estrogen effects whereas someone else could have 30pg/ml and have high estrogen effects. its too individual dependent to be able to properly control

and for the liver, can't you just take it sublingually?

sublingual can reduce but not remove the effects. and in some cases it just leads to different side effects anyway

i mean you gotta understand, im not purposefully trying to be ignorant or annoying, im just trying to maximize all i can do during puberty before it's too late.

thats why i said either roid properly or stay natural, if you truly want to maximise then go big or go home essentially, youre risking messing yourself up either way so if you actually want maximum results, use maximum methods

 

[VLX]

the brutal truth that you need to accept is that theres no way to guarantee to keep your growth plates open. first of all 10 to 15 is dangerously low for a lot of people. the ratio of estrogen to testosterone matters way more than the absolute value of estrogen. and different people have different receptors too, one person could have 30pg/ml and have low estrogen effects whereas someone else could have 30pg/ml and have high estrogen effects. its too individual dependent to be able to properly control


sublingual can reduce but not remove the effects. and in some cases it just leads to different side effects anyway


thats why i said either roid properly or stay natural, if you truly want to maximise then go big or go home essentially, youre risking messing yourself up either way so if you actually want maximum results, use maximum methods

well if i took roid like things, what would i take then? (I know these aren't really roids but I can't take GHRP or MK-677 because my grandfather has diabetes meaning i am at a pretty high risk taking those). And I'm pretty confident my parents wouldn't let me buy HgH. Is there anything else I could take?

 

[Kelly Oubre Jr]

well if i took roid like things, what would i take then?

test + hgh + anavar + carnitine covers pretty much everything you can get through your whole life without needing more than those

(I know these aren't really roids but I can't take GHRP or MK-677

they are shit anyway

And I'm pretty confident my parents wouldn't let me buy HgH

fuck what your parents think why would they allow any of this anyway, just do what you need to do

 

[VLX]

test + hgh + anavar + carnitine covers pretty much everything you can get through your whole life without needing more than those


they are shit anyway


fuck what your parents think why would they allow any of this anyway, just do what you need to do

but if i supplement something like test for example, wont it supress my natural production of it making me have to take it for the rest of my life?