How can i tell if my ortho is trying to fuck me over?

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I have braces, and when i was around 14/15 i extracted 4 teeth by an evil jew ortho. Some time later we moved cities and i got a new ortho. Ive had this one for a year now. I really needed braces, as my teeth were severly fucked up. Im 17 now.

The one i have now seems pretty "bluepilled". Ive told him many times i dont want my face fucked just to have a "nice smile". In my previous appointment, i really pushd it, and i think he accepted my request. He told me that i could get a german metal wire that would expand my upper jaw by a few mm, instead of the american versions. I also told him about my assymetry which he would look into next appointment.

Im very suspicous about him since he claims that i need surgeries to fix the things ruined by extractions. He also told me i should stop worrying about my looks- and showed me pictures of "attractive" people (they were not) with assymetry.
 
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personality is the only thing that matters.
 
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jew detector instalation :forcedsmile:
 
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How server is the asymmetry, and how bad are we talking in the situation of “they were not”
Not very severe, but its definetly unnatural and caused by the braces. He took a look and said that pherhaps the brackets might have been unevenly placed (which my previous jew ortho did, who also extracted teeth).
 
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Not very severe, but its definetly unnatural and caused by the braces. He took a look and said that pherhaps the brackets might have been unevenly placed (which my previous jew ortho did, who also extracted teeth).
How much did the tooth extraction impact your appearance, and I am assuming he pulled premolars
 
How much did the tooth extraction impact your appearance, and I am assuming he pulled premolars
I dont think it did much, but i cant tell since it was so long ago. I entered puberty shortly after which ascended me asf. I think it might have recessed my jaw, since i have that now.

What i think impacted my face the most was retractions. People used to say i have very sharp cheekbones, but i noticed that after retractions theyre not as sharp, something i hope might come back later in treatment/post.
 
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I dont think it did much, but i cant tell since it was so long ago. I entered puberty shortly after which ascended me asf. I think it might have recessed my jaw, since i have that now.

What i think impacted my face the most was retractions. People used to say i have very sharp cheekbones, but i noticed that after retractions theyre not as sharp, something i hope might come back later in treatment/post.
Do you have pictures

I got wisdoms pulled about a year ago and had no real facial changes, but I don’t think these have the same impacts as premolars, especially when paired with elastics and braces
 

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