How come most NS and fascists never answer when you ask them to elaborate on a point

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You'll say "why" or "how" and they just never answer you, only people I've spoken to who actually answer questions are gargantuan and corinthianLOX (not tagging beacuse im sure they dont want to get tagged in another one of these type of threads). Apart from them you never get a real answer.

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Because being a far right winger is usually an indicator for a low IQ. Pattern recognition is natural, doesn't mean it is always correct.

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Because being a far right winger is usually an indicator for a low IQ. Pattern recognition is natural, doesn't mean it is always correct.

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That's too much of a generalisation, I'd say my ideology as of rn is even further right then when I was some ns hybrid but the people who align with my ideology closely all seem to have answers for simple questions and seem to relatively have a higher echelon iq
 
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That's too much of a generalisation, I'd say my ideology as of rn is even further right then when I was some ns hybrid but the people who align with my ideology closely all seem to have answers for simple questions and seem to relatively have a higher echelon iq
Your thread was referring to the average, I wasn't talking about specific individuals.

That's how most subhuman SFcels look like in Germany.
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I don't really think most of these niggers there "think" at all. :feelskek:
 
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Your thread was referring to the average, I wasn't talking about specific individuals.

That's how most subhuman SFcels look like in Germany.
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I don't really think most of these niggers there "think" at all. :feelskek:
Now that I think about it it isn't just sf people who can't answer but the average in ideology except some incredibly niche ones
 
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Your thread was referring to the average, I wasn't talking about specific individuals.

That's how most subhuman SFcels look like in Germany.
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I don't really think most of these niggers there "think" at all. :feelskek:
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Is that anecdotal?
I'm a proud subhuman and like to make false claims to try and win an argument
It's simple reasoning. That "pattern recognition" is a natural process and any individual that can't look past that would be considered below or average IQ.

The same with normies, they affiliate your looks with your real personality. No thinking on a deeper level involved.

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No I've seen studies that show that but the difference minuscule
Right-wing ideology tends to be more straightforward and easier to grasp, which makes it more accessible to individuals with lower intelligence levels. Concepts like "socio-economic factors" require a degree of abstract thinking and complexity that someone with a very low IQ, such as 70, is unlikely to comprehend.

Your average genius isnt more likely to be far left or far right, the right is just simpler which makes it accessible to low intelligence people in a way the far left isnt.

And again, complexity /= correctness.
 
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It's simple reasoning. That "pattern recognition" is a natural process and any individual that can't look past that would be considered below or average IQ.

The same with normies, they affiliate your looks with your real personality. No thinking on a deeper level involved.

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Wow football hooligan ns aren’t the smartest, great observation mate.

“The same with normies, they affiliate your looks with your real personality. No thinking on a deeper level involved.”

Not even true lol, your mind has been raped by incel thinking.
 
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It's simple reasoning. That "pattern recognition" is a natural process and any individual that can't look past that would be considered below or average IQ.

The same with normies, they affiliate your looks with your real personality. No thinking on a deeper level involved.
Good point, pattern recognition reflects a basic and practical cognitive tool for identifying trends, even if the conclusions are uncomfortable, you used it to figure out for yourself that far right people are often of a lower intelligence, and some use it to find out what groups to stay away from.

Data showes that some groups are worse and better than others, so i guess both you and the far-rightoids used your pattern recognition skills, and ignoring these patterns in crime under the guise of complexity or "being smart" and "seeing past our instinct" might itself be an oversight, we have instincts for a reason, pattern recognition is useful, and having a good one is a skill that requires intelligence.
 
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Maybe because a lot of them get so lost in their criticisms (as rightful as they maybe) of the current society, and their vision of the perfect one, that they don’t work out the means and the mechanisms on how we’ll get there. They just skip to the end. And they’re more talk than action because there’s really not much they can do, especially on the scale they want.
 
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Because they know their ideology has gaping flaws

That’s why they prefer to regurgitate NS shit to each other and form an echo chamber
 
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Maybe because a lot of them get so lost in their criticisms (as rightful as they maybe) of the current society, and their vision of the perfect one, that they don’t work out the means and the mechanisms on how we’ll get there. They just skip to the end. And they’re more talk than action because there’s really not much they can do, especially on the scale they want.
But even in their utopian vision they can't answer basic things, or they just say "you're wrong about this" or "you don't know what you're talking about" with out any counter argument
 
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Right-wing ideology tends to be more straightforward and easier to grasp, which makes it more accessible to individuals with lower intelligence levels. Concepts like "socio-economic factors" require a degree of abstract thinking and complexity that someone with a very low IQ, such as 70, is unlikely to comprehend.

Your average genius isnt more likely to be far left or far right, the right is just simpler which makes it accessible to low intelligence people in a way the far left isnt.
Anything going into the extreme is easier to grasp. The far left isn't better than the far right in that sense. No, I'm not a leftist either.
And again, complexity /= correctness.
My arguments weren't entirely about the correctness of those ideologies.
Wow football hooligan ns aren’t the smartest, great observation mate.

“The same with normies, they affiliate your looks with your real personality. No thinking on a deeper level involved.”

Not even true lol, your mind has been raped by incel thinking.
Hop off my dick real quick I'm not your fucking "mate". Your argument with "incel thinking" is also fully BS, ofcourse normies don't perceive your brain/personality/whatever you want to call it without being heavily biased/influenced by your physical being.

"Wow football hooligan ns aren’t the smartest, great observation mate." That was the fucking thread topic.

I'll repeat it for you: "How come most NS and fascists never answer when you ask them to elaborate on a point". The average NS/fascist like mentioned previously just isn't able to because they didn't think about it on a deeper level. That's all I replied to.
Good point, pattern recognition reflects a basic and practical cognitive tool for identifying trends, even if the conclusions are uncomfortable, you used it to figure out for yourself that far right people are often of a lower intelligence, and some use it to find out what groups to stay away from.
Pattern recognition is a big term lol. If you want to call it that, yeah fasho.
Data showes that some groups are worse and better than others, so i guess both you and the far-rightoids used your pattern recognition skills, and ignoring these patterns in crime under the guise of complexity or "being smart" and "seeing past our instinct" might itself be an oversight, we have instincts for a reason, pattern recognition is useful, and having a good one is a skill that requires intelligence.
I didn't argue about the correctness of the ideology at all for now.

I'm not ignoring shit, there are unignorable trends you simply can't disregard. Answer this: Let's say there is a group of 100 individuals, one of them is innocent. Would it be correct to put them all into prison or any other action to respond to the crime?

In reality most "groups" still have a better part, I would agree with IQ-cism. Shoot all low IQ subhumans. Only with a good measurement for that ofcourse.

Also there are potentially arguments like testosterone influencing character traits. Some data implied that latinos have on average higher testosterone levels without stronger aromatization.
 
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Anything going into the extreme is easier to grasp. The far left isn't better than the far right in that sense. No, I'm not a leftist either.

My arguments weren't entirely about the correctness of those ideologies.

Hop off my dick real quick I'm not your fucking "mate". Your argument with "incel thinking" is also fully BS, ofcourse normies don't perceive your brain/personality/whatever you want to call it without being heavily biased/influenced by your physical being.

"Wow football hooligan ns aren’t the smartest, great observation mate." That was the fucking thread topic.

I'll repeat it for you: "How come most NS and fascists never answer when you ask them to elaborate on a point". The average NS/fascist like mentioned previously just isn't able to because they didn't think about it on a deeper level. That's all I replied to.

Pattern recognition is a big term lol. If you want to call it that, yeah fasho.

I didn't argue about the correctness of the ideology at all for now.

I'm not ignoring shit, there are unignorable trends you simply can't disregard. Answer this: Let's say there is a group of 100 individuals, one of them is innocent. Would it be correct to put them all into prison or any other action to respond to the crime?

In reality most "groups" still have a better part, I would agree with IQ-cism. Shoot all low IQ subhumans. Only with a good measurement for that ofcourse.

Also there are potentially arguments like testosterone influencing character traits. Some data implied that latinos have on average higher testosterone levels without stronger aromatization.
Why would you be in favour of state mandated murder of people you perceive as subhuman ? All this talk about murder is silly as it can easily be flipped on you (like it has previously in history).
 
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Answer this: Let's say there is a group of 100 individuals, one of them is innocent. Would it be correct to put them all into prison or any other action to respond to the crime?
If you have the choice between punishing all criminals or none then you should punish all of them (E.G. El Salvador w/crime stats)
 
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Why would you be in favour of state mandated murder of people you perceive as subhuman ? All this talk about murder is silly as it can easily be flipped on you (like it has previously in history).
Because I'm not a pacifist, not at all. People of higher IQ tend to be more empathic and in general have better character traits. I perceive those as subhuman that fall below a certain IQ range, no matter the ethnicity. @imontheloose
If you have the choice between punishing all criminals or none then you should punish all of them (E.G. El Salvador w/crime stats)
In that example it would be like punishing the whole country, not just the people that might be potential criminals.
 
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If you have the choice between punishing all criminals or none then you should punish all of them (E.G. El Salvador w/crime stats)
Or you could be allowed to segregate and have freedom of association and if someone trespasses you have the right to physical remove them in a way that is of adequate severity for example picking them up and removing them or if they get violent removing them with a hole in their chest.
 
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Because I'm not a pacifist, not at all. People of higher IQ tend to be more empathic and in general have better character traits. I perceive those as subhuman that fall below a certain IQ range, no matter the ethnicity. @imontheloose
So you value one characteristic of what is a person and not the others ? You are no different to people who advocate for NS or communism. IQ nationalism is silly.
 
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You'll say "why" or "how" and they just never answer you, only people I've spoken to who actually answer questions are gargantuan and corinthianLOX (not tagging beacuse im sure they dont want to get tagged in another one of these type of threads). Apart from them you never get a real answer.

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Okay I’m a black nazi please ask anything don’t ask retarded questions
 
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In that example it would be like punishing the whole country, not just the people that might be potential criminals.
I dont think i quite get what youre saying, obviously not every single person in the country should get punished, the idea behind fascism or strong states isnt to hurt the entire native population but to help it, in the case of El Salvador the avg person was a lot better off after the mass imprisonment of gang affiliated people.
 
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cause most of them are actually braindead stupid. they dont possess the ability to think independently. they probably saw some other neo and were like “ooh racism yuh this is cool” or sum shit, without ever forming a bias of their own.

i blame gypsy
 
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So you value one characteristic of what is a person and not the others ? You are no different to people who advocate for NS or communism. IQ nationalism is silly.
That characteristic is the ultimative parameter to decide between life or death. You can elaborate on why it is silly though.

May be totally anecdotal because I never viewed any data about the following, but I'm pretty certain that if we were to IQ test most criminals, most would have an lower than average IQ apart from the sociopaths and other mental disorders.
I dont think i quite get what youre saying, obviously not every single person in the country should get punished, the idea behind fascism or strong states isnt to hurt the entire native population but to help it, in the case of El Salvador the avg person was a lot better off after the mass imprisonment of gang affiliated people.
It certainly was. It was a good decision by the government, the sacrifice was worth it in the end. What are your thoughts about the comment above?
 
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I dont think i quite get what youre saying, obviously not every single person in the country should get punished, the idea behind fascism or strong states isnt to hurt the entire native population but to help it, in the case of El Salvador the avg person was a lot better off after the mass imprisonment of gang affiliated people.
But the state is always self serving even if it isn't a explicit intention ( @Whatever ) but even ideologies like fascism ARE SELF SERVING IN THEIR DOCTRINE, that's literally what it is about ( @Gargantuan )
 
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How do you not recorrupt your giant state just like every big state has before?
Every single state in all of history has had a degree of corruption, the clintons, kennedies, wars in the middle east etc, just because something is authoritarian doesnt mean its corrupt or has a notable and negative amount of corruption, and just because something is a democracy doesnt mean it isnt corrupt.

Russia is notoriously corrupt, and so is America.

China isnt notoriously corrupt, its well known for increasing the living standards of your average chinese citizen for a fact.
 
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It certainly was. It was a good decision by the government, the sacrifice was worth it in the end. What are your thoughts about the comment above?
That characteristic is the ultimative parameter to decide between life or death. You can elaborate on why it is silly though.

May be totally anecdotal because I never viewed any data about the following, but I'm pretty certain that if we were to IQ test most criminals, most would have an lower than average IQ apart from the sociopaths and other mental disorders.
IQ is the nr.1 predictor of success in life (Economic & status wise at least). Humans arent the strongest, fastest, or anything physical, the thing that makes us unique and powerful is our intelligence, as an example, muscle doesnt win wars, technology wins wars.

If you had to decide whether to select for IQ or physical attributes in eugenics then IQ should be valued drastically more.

But, having a high IQ doesnt mean that you're a good person (morally) and vice versa, a bad IQ doesnt make you a bad person, IQ and morality arent linked heavily, if anything a higher IQ would give you the ability to be immoral without large consequences, if youre smart about it.
 
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That characteristic is the ultimative parameter to decide between life or death. You can elaborate on why it is silly though.
The one of the reasons why iq nationalism is silly is due to the fact that it isn't fully genetic ( heritability being 57% and 73% in early twin studies). It's like saying you're a height nationalist or facial nationalist. While things like the nation of which you come from is completely genetic.

If you are a iq nationalist then I will propose you this instead, why don't you advocate for a libertarianist country ? Then you can create your own community of high iq people and kick out any you deem to have too low of a iq. If your idea is good would it not succeed in that model ?
 
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But the state is always self serving even if it isn't a explicit intention ( @Whatever ) but even ideologies like fascism ARE SELF SERVING IN THEIR DOCTRINE, that's literally what it is about ( @Gargantuan )
The state being self-serving isn’t inherently negative if its interests align with the well-being of its people. Ideologies like fascism prioritize the collective over the individual, aiming to serve the state as a vessel for national unity, strength, and identity. When the state thrives, the people within it benefit, making its self-serving nature a means to an end, not a flaw.
 
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IQ is the nr.1 predictor of success in life (Economic & status wise at least). Humans arent the strongest, fastest, or anything physical, the thing that makes us unique and powerful is our intelligence, as an example, muscle doesnt win wars, technology wins wars.

If you had to decide whether to select for IQ or physical attributes in eugenics then IQ should be valued drastically more.

But, having a high IQ doesnt mean that you're a good person (morally) and vice versa, a bad IQ doesnt make you a bad person, IQ and morality arent linked heavily, if anything a higher IQ would give you the ability to be immoral without large consequences, if youre smart about it.
To your custom title, I love you too bro. Good that we agree on that :feelshmm:
 
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cause most of them are actually braindead stupid. they dont possess the ability to think independently. they probably saw some other neo and were like “ooh racism yuh this is cool” or sum shit, without ever forming a bias of their own.

i blame gypsy
i genuinely cannot believe people are Neo Nazis in 2025.

It doesnt even require much critical thinking cause the entire population are against Nazis, even the low IQ individuals.
 
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Every single state in all of history has had a degree of corruption, the clintons, kennedies, wars in the middle east etc, just because something is authoritarian doesnt mean its corrupt or has a notable and negative amount of corruption, and just because something is a democracy doesnt mean it isnt corrupt.

Russia is notoriously corrupt, and so is America.

China isnt notoriously corrupt, its well known for increasing the living standards of your average chinese citizen for a fact.
You mentioned 3 countries with big states, also the average living standard in russia has also increased. Just beacuse you don't hear about it doesn't mean it isn't happening, China uses slave labour in their concentration camps to serve the states interest.

All authoritarian states are self serving and/or corrupt, you can not name a single one that is not.
 
i genuinely cannot believe people are Neo Nazis in 2025.

It doesnt even require much critical thinking cause the entire population are against Nazis, even the low IQ individuals.
i also find it hilarious that most of the neo new gens are brownskin or ethnic
 
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You mentioned 3 countries with big states, also the average living standard in russia has also increased. Just beacuse you don't hear about it doesn't mean it isn't happening, China uses slave labour in their concentration camps to serve the states interest.

All authoritarian states are self serving and/or corrupt, you can not name a single one that is not.
Singapore under Lee Kuan Yew, Roman empire under the five good emperors.

thats just the ones from the top of my head, i believe Salazar was pretty good too.
 
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i also find it hilarious that most of the neo new gens are brownskin or ethnic
i mean that is likely due to years of bullying and low self-esteem eventually just leading them down the path of self-hatred.

Its still low IQ tho

I respect the Indians larping as Nazis on Twitter profiting off these retards
 
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The state being self-serving isn’t inherently negative if its interests align with the well-being of its people. Ideologies like fascism prioritize the collective over the individual, aiming to serve the state as a vessel for national unity, strength, and identity. When the state thrives, the people within it benefit, making its self-serving nature a means to an end, not a flaw.
So Italy was serving the collective when they joined a war they knew they were not prepared for ? So nazi Germany was serving the German people when they sent millions of their young population to die ? They k ew they were cooked after Stalingrad why didn't they surrender?
 
Singapore under Lee Kuan Yew, Roman empire under the five good emperors.

thats just the ones from the top of my head, i believe Salazar was pretty good too.
Rome was still self serving, may I say I prefer monarchy over democracy, im not a democratic person. For the other two I'll have a look but Singapore I believe was free market
 
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Most of the left normies can't fathom to answer the easiest questions either.

"Word peace and end of world hunger" - there is no greater vision either, than blatant socialism shizo ramblings without substance or a greater goal. No tragedy or storys. Their whole premise bases on the idea that every human is worth the same and they envision a world without any conflicts, which is an absolute pipedream - and even if it could be achieved, it wouldn't be a world I'd like to life in.

We are in an era of democracy and mass population, where leaders validate their powerclaims in an altruistic cope to appeal to the masses. In the 19th., even in the 20th. century, most of the normies weren't political, and if we go even further, in the early monarchies and aristocracies, only a very, very small amount of the most prestigious people were thinking about political ideologies. Your problem is not only connected within rightwing circles, but an effect of democracy.

Lower- and middleclass individuals having a political opinions is the problem - we talk about the normgroid foid and the ukrainian neo-nazi 80IQ slobhead from a workers family.
 
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Most of the left normies can't fathom to answer the easiest questions either.

"Word peace and end of world hunger" - there is no greater vision either, than blatant socialism shizo ramblings without substance or a greater goal. No tragedy or storys. Their whole premise bases on the idea that every human is worth the same and they envision a world without any conflicts, which is an absolute pipedream - and even if it could be achieved, it wouldn't be a world I'd like to life in.

We are in an era of democracy and mass population, where leaders validate their powerclaims in an altruistic cope to appeal to the masses. In the 19th., even in the 20th. century, most of the normies weren't political, and if we go even further, in the early monarchies and aristocracies, only a very, very small amount of the most prestigious people were thinking about political ideologies. Your problem is not only connected within rightwing circles, but an effect of democracy.

Lower- and middleclass individuals having a political opinions is the problem - we talk about the normgroid foid and the ukrainian neo-nazi 80IQ slobhead from a workers family.
when the have nots can vote they will always vote to take from the haves and since we have more have nots then haves democracy will always lead to giant government and socialism.
 
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Anything going into the extreme is easier to grasp. The far left isn't better than the far right in that sense. No, I'm not a leftist either.

My arguments weren't entirely about the correctness of those ideologies.

Hop off my dick real quick I'm not your fucking "mate". Your argument with "incel thinking" is also fully BS, ofcourse normies don't perceive your brain/personality/whatever you want to call it without being heavily biased/influenced by your physical being.

"Wow football hooligan ns aren’t the smartest, great observation mate." That was the fucking thread topic.

I'll repeat it for you: "How come most NS and fascists never answer when you ask them to elaborate on a point". The average NS/fascist like mentioned previously just isn't able to because they didn't think about it on a deeper level. That's all I replied to.

Pattern recognition is a big term lol. If you want to call it that, yeah fasho.

I didn't argue about the correctness of the ideology at all for now.

I'm not ignoring shit, there are unignorable trends you simply can't disregard. Answer this: Let's say there is a group of 100 individuals, one of them is innocent. Would it be correct to put them all into prison or any other action to respond to the crime?

In reality most "groups" still have a better part, I would agree with IQ-cism. Shoot all low IQ subhumans. Only with a good measurement for that ofcourse.

Also there are potentially arguments like testosterone influencing character traits. Some data implied that latinos have on average higher testosterone levels without stronger aromatization.
Dnrd. Wrong, you are generalising people and that is low IQ asf. Even calling other people normies is a sign that incel thinking has taken root.

do yourself a favour and go outside little guy.
 
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when the have nots can vote they will always vote to take from the haves and since we have more have nots then haves democracy will always lead to giant government and socialism.
Exactly. Also rightwing populism (and neo-nazism) is also rooted in a socialist idea of "fairness" and "equality", although not as much as leftwing populism, as they keep the socialist ideas within their ethno-cultural circle (ger.: "Volksgemeinschaft"). The have-nots, as you have called them, strive for individual power (e.g. economic wealth), regardless of the ideas they might promote - keeping up a altruistic facade to justify their strive for power.
 
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So Italy was serving the collective when they joined a war they knew they were not prepared for ? So nazi Germany was serving the German people when they sent millions of their young population to die ? They k ew they were cooked after Stalingrad why didn't they surrender?
Low IQ take, Authoritarianism isnt just Nazi Germany and the axis; was the american public prepared for the wars in the middle east? why didnt Britain surrender when it looked hopeless? Was Germany serving its public by fighting the people who made the Holodomor and wanted to destroy the german culture & Christianity?

These are all nuanced and subjective questions. The soviet union was a very large threat, they murdered countless ukrainians in a man made hunger, of course Germany wouldnt "just surrender", especially with the policy of unconditional surrender against Nazi Germany during ww2.

Nazi Germany isnt all of authoritarianism, just like the usa isnt all of democracy.
 
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Rome was still self serving, may I say I prefer monarchy over democracy, im not a democratic person. For the other two I'll have a look but Singapore I believe was free market
Authoritarianism or fascism isnt bound to a specific economic idea. I'd say an adoptive monarchy like the five good emperors is the ideal form of government, but when you adopt instead of birthing a heir, is it really still a monarchy or just dictatorship based on meritocracy and legitimacy?
 
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Low IQ take, Authoritarianism isnt just Nazi Germany and the axis; was the american public prepared for the wars in the middle east? why didnt Britain surrender when it looked hopeless? Was Germany serving its public by fighting the people who made the Holodomor and wanted to destroy the german culture & Christianity?

These are all nuanced and subjective questions. The soviet union was a very large threat, they murdered countless ukrainians in a man made hunger, of course Germany wouldnt "just surrender", especially with the policy of unconditional surrender against Nazi Germany during ww2.

Nazi Germany isnt all of authoritarianism, just like the usa isnt all of democracy.
This is all proving my point which is that all states are self serving and don't serve the people at all. Doesn't matter if they're autho or democratic they're all self serving.
 
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