How could religious people be okay with the concept of HELL

[Zenis]

Oh man you didnt belive in a god? well enjoy burning your skin off for eternity and their is no remorse

how? how can any single relgious person see this and be alright with it, the punishment is way way too much for any kind of sin, i dont get an etenrel punishment because of a temporary life.

even people like hitler dont deserve this kind of punishment, ITS abousltey unfair no matter what not a single human ever deserves an etenirty of suffering. I think a true punishment would be forcing someone to live another life, and another and another until they find themselves in heaven, like a video game keep restarting till you get it, not eternal burning.

 

[Spookybah]

afaik you don't actually burn for eternity. The flames represent complete annihilation, so you're just wiped from existence not tortured. Correct me if I'm wrong though.

 

[Zenis]

afaik you don't actually burn for eternity. The flames represent complete annihilation, so you're just wiped from existence not tortured. Correct me if I'm wrong though.

i dont think thats how it is, im pretty sure it is a eternal punishment. in Islam i know every muslim will end up in heaven but some will have to go to hell first to pay for their sins which is just fucking terrifiying espieclly with how horrifying its made out to be

 

[nuisance]

Oh man you didnt belive in a god? well enjoy burning your skin off for eternity and their is no remorse

how? how can any single relgious person see this and be alright with it, the punishment is way way too much for any kind of sin, i dont get an etenrel punishment because of a temporary life.

even people like hitler dont deserve this kind of punishment, ITS abousltey unfair no matter what not a single human ever deserves an etenirty of suffering. I think a true punishment would be forcing someone to live another life, and another and another until they find themselves in heaven, like a video game keep restarting till you get it, not eternal burning.

My human brain is not ok with it

Without eternal life you cease to exist, christians belive jesus died for us to give us the chance to have a good eternal life.

I dont know why we have a hell because ceasing to exist is a pretty bad thing to think of in my opinion personally.

It would make better sense to me if the gift of eternal life was a way of escaping cessation.

But again we are not god so who are we to question what he does.

 

[Zenis]

My human brain is not ok with it

Without eternal life you cease to exist, christians belive jesus died for us to give us the chance to have a good eternal life.

I dont know why we have a hell because ceasing to exist is a pretty bad thing to think of in my opinion personally.

It would make better sense to me if the gift of eternal life was a way of escaping cessation.

But again we are not god so who are we to question what he does.

i think its fear mongering, i cannot belive in a eternal hell and neither can most human brains, eternity in itself makes the brain flip upside down but even the concept of a eternal heaven is scary, but a eternal suffering? its just too much for someone as procalimed to be a mercufl and loving as god i do not think he would send anyone to a eternal hell, at most temporay and even thats too much. as i said a more fair punishment would be making sinners redo life

 

[nuisance]

i think its fear mongering, i cannot belive in a eternal hell and neither can most human brains, eternity in itself makes the brain flip upside down but even the concept of a eternal heaven is scary, but a eternal suffering? its just too much for someone as procalimed to be a mercufl and loving as god i do not think he would send anyone to a eternal hell, at most temporay and even thats too much. as i said a more fair punishment would be making sinners redo life

As a christian the way I see it is like this

God is all powerful he can do whatever he wants. We are lucky to even be a part of gods conscious because without that we wouldn't exist.

Humans have betrayed God over and over again, if god wanted to he could just let us be and forget us or annihilate us. But he doesnt and I see that as gods love and mercy.

With mercy god is also Just and god being god he makes the rules and his view of justice is that the punishment for sin is death. Id like to think that death means annihilation of your soul (cessation) however there is not a clear answer to this question. There is some verses that seem to point to this but there is also some verses that point to eternal pain and torture.

Id like to think that eternal punishment is you not being in gods conscious anymore, no longer being with god. If you are no longer woth god you no longer exist.

But if the other verses that point to a eternal conscious painful punishment is what hell actually is then as a christian I cant question god.

If Christianity really is the truth then offering a chance of eternal life just for something as simple as beliving seems pretty merciful.

 

[h111]

The idea of eternal torture is scary

 

[nuisance]

afaik you don't actually burn for eternity. The flames represent complete annihilation, so you're just wiped from existence not tortured. Correct me if I'm wrong though.

Its a possiblity, but there are some verses that seem to support this and some that dont.

 

[Zenis]

As a christian the way I see it is like this

God is all powerful he can do whatever he wants. We are lucky to even be a part of gods conscious because without that we wouldn't exist.

Humans have betrayed God over and over again, if god wanted to he could just let us be and forget us or annihilate us. But he doesnt and I see that as gods love and mercy.

With mercy god is also Just and god being god he makes the rules and his view of justice is that the punishment for sin is death. Id like to think that death means annihilation of your soul (cessation) however there is not a clear answer to this question. There is some verses that seem to point to this but there is also some verses that point to eternal pain and torture.

Id like to think that eternal punishment is you not being in gods conscious anymore, no longer being with god. If you are no longer woth god you no longer exist.

But if the other verses that point to a eternal conscious painful punishment is what hell actually is then as a christian I cant question god.

If Christianity really is the truth then offering a chance of eternal life just for something as simple as beliving seems pretty merciful.

i dont think it is because its just just beliving

 

[Zenis]

The idea of eternal torture is scary

idea of eternal anything, you cant really think of eternal it scarmbles your mind if you try and compherand anything infinte

 

[h111]

idea of eternal anything, you cant really think of eternal it scarmbles your mind if you try and compherand anything infinte

Do you think its real? What you said about the potential that it could be fear mongering seems like a possibility, and the fact that you get this punishment even if you were a good person is crazy. Just because you had the wrong religion or you were atheist.

For example, ive never done anything to negatively impact anyone and I follow traditional values, but according to christianity i would go to hell for not being part of the religion

 

[nuisance]

i dont think it is because its just just beliving

Christianity is entirely 100% faith based.

As a christian some things seem illogical to me. The christian answer to that im not god, I shouldn't question him because im not capable of comprehending god. Its understandable why atheists dont like that response however that is the answer christians belive because they genuinely belive in their religion.

I became agnostic for a while, but I dont see the point of being agnostic without looking for god. As many problems and things I dont agree with on christianity I choose to follow it because it is the religion with the most evidence and generally it improves your life.

 

[CookieGuy]

Oh man you didnt belive in a god? well enjoy burning your skin off for eternity and their is no remorse

how? how can any single relgious person see this and be alright with it, the punishment is way way too much for any kind of sin, i dont get an etenrel punishment because of a temporary life.

even people like hitler dont deserve this kind of punishment, ITS abousltey unfair no matter what not a single human ever deserves an etenirty of suffering. I think a true punishment would be forcing someone to live another life, and another and another until they find themselves in heaven, like a video game keep restarting till you get it, not eternal burning.

Hey Zenis. You should catch up on my new lore. Something Unforseen happened. I somehow got a girI interested in ke

Plus I will show My real face!

 

[Zenis]

Do you think its real? What you said about the potential that it could be fear mongering seems like a possibility, and the fact that you get this punishment even if you were a good person is crazy. Just because you had the wrong religion or you were atheist.

For example, ive never done anything to negatively impact anyone and I follow traditional values, but according to christianity i would go to hell for not being part of the religion

no i dont based on what gods said to be hes said to be all good, anyone whos all merciful would never do anything like this even against the worst of people. i believe they do deserve punishment but not in the way hell is described nobody deserves it and i mean nobody.

 

[Zenis]

Hey Zenis. You should catch up on my new lore. Something Unforseen happened. I somehow got a girI interested in ke

Plus I will show My real face!

alright

 

[134applesauce456]

I am Christian and 100% agree, based

I have so many theories about what could happen after death, all of them seem to be a lot more moral then hell. I really like your theory of just replaying different lives until you get it right, then you can ascend. I've also had similar theories. I mean the whole religion has a strong concept of forgiveness no matter what.

but if hell is real I can't judge , i guess God is morally superior to us and knows far more

 

[Klasik616]

Zenis iqmaxxing

 

[XiaoXiao]

Oh man you didnt belive in a god? well enjoy burning your skin off for eternity and their is no remorse

how? how can any single relgious person see this and be alright with it, the punishment is way way too much for any kind of sin, i dont get an etenrel punishment because of a temporary life.

even people like hitler dont deserve this kind of punishment, ITS abousltey unfair no matter what not a single human ever deserves an etenirty of suffering. I think a true punishment would be forcing someone to live another life, and another and another until they find themselves in heaven, like a video game keep restarting till you get it, not eternal burning.

I get the frustration. The idea of eternal punishment does seem disproportionate, especially when you consider how limited our human experience is. From a secular perspective, the concept of Hell often seems more like a way to enforce moral behavior through fear rather than a fair system of justice. A punishment like eternal suffering doesn’t seem to align with any real notion of rehabilitation or growth.

Many people who interpret religious texts in this way struggle with it too. Some argue that Hell is a metaphor, not a literal place of torture, or that divine justice might work in ways beyond human understanding. But like you, I think the idea of an eternal punishment for temporary actions seems too extreme. As for your idea about reincarnation, it’s an interesting concept one where learning and growth could lead to a kind of redemption over time. But, ultimately, as an atheist, I view life as an opportunity to make the most of the here and now, grounded in the ethics and values we create ourselves, rather than relying on divine judgment.

 

[CookieGuy]

Zenis iqmaxxing

My little LTN is mentally ascending

 

[Zenis]

I am Christian and 100% agree, based

I have so many theories about what could happen after death, all of them seem to be a lot more moral then hell. I really like your theory of just replaying different lives until you get it right, then you can ascend. I've also had similar theories. I mean the whole religion has a strong concept of forgiveness no matter what.

but if hell is real I can't judge , i guess God is morally superior to us and knows far more

thats the scary part althugh in your human mind its morally completly wrong and seems as far too much of a punishment for anyone, at the end of the day its in gods will their is nothing any of us can do if its true.

 

[not__cel]

Bro no one likes hell but it’s there for a reason

 

[R@m@]

Its more of a metaphor than literal meaning

 

[overthinkinghooper]

bible never says hell is eternal suffering and torture? only way it describes hell is its an oven

 

[Klasik616]

My little LTN is mentally ascending

Stop bullying Zenis

 

[CookieGuy]

Stop bullying him

We already had a truce. Also one time I was busting a and I accidently swiped the screen to Looksmax.org and I accidently ’d on Zenis’s page (true story)

 

[nuisance]

Do you think its real? What you said about the potential that it could be fear mongering seems like a possibility, and the fact that you get this punishment even if you were a good person is crazy. Just because you had the wrong religion or you were atheist.

For example, ive never done anything to negatively impact anyone and I follow traditional values, but according to christianity i would go to hell for not being part of the religion

We dont know why god judges sin so harshly.

Yeah your a good person, but did you ever lie, did you ever steal? Those are all sins and all sin no matter the severity will send you to hell.

The appeal to christianity is that if you just choose to belive in christ and that he resurrected all your sins are covered its very simple. But if you actually belive then you should be more like jesus in your life.

Believing in god is better when you belive in him because of the mercy he has for us rather than the threat of eternal damnation.\

But god is not going to coem down and reveal himself to you, I mean he can but thats usually not what happens so thats why its very hard for the skeptic to not try out Christianity because it seems like brainwash.

 

[Klasik616]

Thank god I don't believe in God

 

[Zenis]

Bro no one likes hell but it’s there for a reason

their is no reason that anyone could deserve it

Stop bullying Zenis

hes just fucking with me now we ended the beef ages ago. its been like a few months.

 

[134applesauce456]

Its more of a metaphor than literal meaning

I also have this belief as one of my theories

Hell could just be a simple separation of God, because you rejected him with ur free will. Why would he force someone who doesn't want him to be with him?

The thing is , this kinda all falls apart when we think about people who died never knowing of God or like the babies who died without ever comprehending the thought of God

it's all so complicated

 

[CookieGuy]

their is no reason that anyone could deserve it

hes just fucking with me now we ended the beef ages ago. its been like a few months.

I know the beef is over and I love you and all but.

Sometimes I like to listen to “Zenis is an LTN” when I’m out in a walk. Shit goes hard AF

 

[R@m@]

Religions are about the same core concept but explained in different perspectives

Ego death, spiritual planes, afterlife...

All this can be our brain coping tough, these hallucinations people have on drugs, meditation and near death experiences can be just a way for our brain to cope

Personally I think theres something more than just our primitive brain

 

[Zenis]

Religions are about the same core concept but explained in different perspectives

Ego death, spiritual planes, afterlife...

All this can be our brain coping tough, these hallucinations people have on drugs, meditation and near death experiences can be just a way for our brain to cope

Personally I think theres something more than just our primitive brain

maybe after the death we fall into a forever lucid dream you never know i know brain activiy goes away after you die but it might something more then that

 

[looksmaxxed]

hell is reserved for really bad people like bill gates, hitler is in heaven waiting for us.

 

[R@m@]

maybe after the death we fall into a forever lucid dream you never know i know brain activiy goes away after you die but it might something more then that

Ive had interesting experiences on acid that made me feel like theres something more beyond our regular consciousness

But it might be the brain on some high doses of serotonin that enhaces imagination