How dangerous actually is a LF2

[Iota]

I find it difficult to find statistics of LF2 surgeries but it seems like it's only done on malformed patients so shews the results usually its like 90% success rate but I'm wondering if a LF2 actually poses any benefit compared to a LF1 with Infraorbital implants and filler in the nasion?

 

[bossman]

Nobody will perform it on you.

Theoretically it offers the best aesthetic results if your nasal area is recessed. It is an underrated component of the overall facial aesthetic. No change on inframalars.

 

[Iota]

Nobody will perform it on you.

Theoretically it offers the best aesthetic results if your nasal area is recessed. It is an underrated component of the overall facial aesthetic. No change on inframalars.

What defines a recessed nasal area?
Just a very set back nasion I assume?

 

[Iota]

I have a dorsal hump because my nasion sits back too far and my upper maxilla is recessed
lower maxilla isn't recessed and mandible is either
I believe midface projection would ascend me

 

[Iota]

the only super recessed things in my face are infraorbitals and nasion

 

[Kira@]

Nobody will perform it on you.

Theoretically it offers the best aesthetic results if your nasal area is recessed. It is an underrated component of the overall facial aesthetic. No change on inframalars.

arent paranasal implants good for this?

 

[Iota]

arent paranasal implants good for this?

no need for prenasal implants im not recessed in the prenasal area
I'm recessed in the upper nasal area

 

[Sicilian Cyclops]

What defines a recessed nasal area?
Just a very set back nasion I assume?

Dude, you do not need LeFort 2 at all

I'm imaging some flat-faced, Voldemort-like chink seeing this thread and seething at you for not being grateful for what you have

I'm recessed in the upper nasal area

You're not. You have a nasoglabellar notch — that is aesthetically ideal.

I have a dorsal hump because my nasion sits back too far and my upper maxilla is recessed
lower maxilla isn't recessed and mandible is either
I believe midface projection would ascend me

This doesn't matter. Just because you don't have Cavill-like nasion projection doesn't mean you need to get LeFort fucking 2. This is retarded.

Your projection is close to O'Pry's — he also has a dorsal hump. Stop the neurotic autism, you don't need LeFort 2

THIS is who needs LeFort 2:

look at how you can see both of their eyes from the side on the first one

 

[LackEmpathyTherefor]

I have a dorsal hump because my nasion sits back too far and my upper maxilla is recessed
lower maxilla isn't recessed and mandible is either
I believe midface projection would ascend me

Bro what

 

[Iota]

Dude, you do not need LeFort 2 at all

I'm imaging some flat-faced, Voldemort-like chink seeing this thread and seething at you for not being grateful for what you have

You're not. You have a nasoglabellar notch — that is aesthetically ideal.


This doesn't matter. Just because you don't have Cavill-like nasion projection doesn't mean you need to get LeFort fucking 2. This is retarded.

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Your projection is close to O'Pry's — he also has a dorsal hump. Stop the neurotic autism, you don't need LeFort 2

THIS is who needs LeFort 2:
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look at how you can see both of their eyes from the side on the first one

Incredibly high value post thankyou

Excuse my greyness bro but,
1. Is my forward growth ideal for mandible and maxilla? Even link me a post showing ideal ranges if possible
2.. What are my side profile falios?
3. Infraorbitals are recessed right?

 

[bjebb007]

Bro what the hell are you smoking, you don't need a LF2, you literally have the same projection as sean o pry. I promise you a LF2 will not ascend you. I honestly think not much else can be done to ascend your side profile focus on front instead

 

[Iota]

Bro what the hell are you smoking, you don't need a LF2, you literally have the same projection as sean o pry. I promise you a LF2 will not ascend you. I honestly think not much else can be done to ascend your side profile

Infraorbital implants?

 

[bjebb007]

Infraorbital implants?

Infraorbital implants are usually done for people with bug eyes, which you don't have, I personally think it looks uncanny in most cases, which is why I got fat grafting instead. It looks like your brow ridge is prominent (which is a good thing) its hard to tell from a side profile picture

 

[Iota]

My UEE is very minimal which ig means my brow ridge and/or fat distribution must be good
fat grafting cbtm infraorbital implants could give me a degree or so of canthal tilt though right? not that I need that just if I conclude that it'd be a positive
could give me a better PFL too?
along with fixing undereyes ofc

 

[kaydd]

Would you mind sharing your front? Trynna see sum

 

[Iota]

Would you mind sharing your front? Trynna see sum

Best photo I have
frauding with lighting and squinting

 

[kaydd]

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Best photo I have
frauding with lighting and squinting

Ts genuinly pissing me off bro talking bout some lf2

 

[kaydd]

your dorsal hump harmonizes with your profile, other than that no surgery i can name that would give you any roi to a decent degree.
PLease get therapy

 

[Iota]

Ts genuinly pissing me off bro talking bout some lf2

in foresight I see how this is retarded

 

[Sicilian Cyclops]

Incredibly high value post thankyou

Excuse my greyness bro but,
1. Is my forward growth ideal for mandible and maxilla? Even link me a post showing ideal ranges if possible
2.. What are my side profile falios?
3. Infraorbitals are recessed right?

Your mandible is good; good projection, good chin height and robust mentalis fat pad, average ramus.

No big issues in the maxilla; paranasal projection is good, just the infras could be more projected but it's honestly negligible — it's not worth risking getting implants for such a small change. After seeing your front, conservative fat grafts for your undereye darkness would be the play IMO.

Occlusion looks normal.

Only perceptible flaw I can see is your nose and philtrum; your nasolabial angle is too obtuse (i.e. the bottom of your nose is angled upwards too much creating an effeminate look), and your philtrum is a tad on the short side (Clav has both of these failos). Very negligible though so I wouldn't worry about it. Changing these are pretty hard, specifically the philtrum as you'd have to lengthen the whole bottom part of your face with a down-graft, which is a nightmare as you might fuck up your lips.

your dorsal hump harmonizes with your profile, other than that no surgery i can name that would give you any roi to a decent degree.
PLease get therapy

Yeah, as long as you don't have a big Jew dorsal hump you'll be fine. A handful of chads have them — (Gandy, O'Pry, Cruise) — people honestly worry way too much about them. They look aesthetic as long as the rest of your profile is robust & dimorphic. If you're an effeminate little neotenous femboy then yeah, of course it's gonna create problems and fuck your harmony up, but honestly that's more of a problem of you being a high E underdeveloped cuck than the nose.

 

[LS2019]

Here goes another person trying to larp about leforts.

 

[Nahorscend]

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W ragebait larping on this forum and asking about lf2, if you look like that and think you need lf2 what you need is brain transplant
Get off this site and live a happy life

 

[Former Shortcel]

What defines a recessed nasal area?
Just a very set back nasion I assume?

You dont need a LF2

 

[insignia_]

What defines a recessed nasal area?
Just a very set back nasion I assume?

Yours is fine

 

[bjebb007]

Yeah you could get fat grafting, I have done so as well, the undereye area for fat grafting have bad survival rate for some people just keep that in mind so you might have to do it more than once

 

[Iota]

Yeah you could get fat grafting, I have done so as well, the undereye area for fat grafting have bad survival rate for some people just keep that in mind so you might have to do it more than once

seems low ROI icl
how much did it set you back?​

 

[bjebb007]

seems low ROI icl​

how much did it set you back?​

Its the exact opposite, eye area is very important and cheap to fix unless you need things like OBO, infra. Look at what I posted and see the difference it makes, for me it made a massive difference. Fat graft costed me like 2k, very high roi.

But your eye area is pretty good already maybe look into clearing your skin

 

[yussimania]

 

[Iota]

Its the exact opposite, eye area is very important and cheap to fix unless you need things like OBO, infra. Look at what I posted and see the difference it makes, for me it made a massive difference. Fat graft costed me like 2k, very high roi.

But your eye area is pretty good already maybe look into clearing your skin

skin is 100% my biggest falio I'm waiting for a fuckass NHS appointment however
in the UK you can only get accutane after 2 cycles of oral antibiotics
then I can get a prescription and pay for it
mfs have had me on a waiting list for a derm for the past 2 years though
I paid private bc my doc wouldnt give me a second antibiotic
I'll just pay again to get my accutane prescription but it's like £300 for an appointment

 

[Iota]

Its the exact opposite, eye area is very important and cheap to fix unless you need things like OBO, infra. Look at what I posted and see the difference it makes, for me it made a massive difference. Fat graft costed me like 2k, very high roi.

But your eye area is pretty good already maybe look into clearing your skin

eye area is good yes fat grafting to fix under eyes and botox for upper eyes could make it insane though
2k away from great eye area

 

[Iota]

saying that I should just get fat grafting for me upper eyes holy grey
i probably wouldnt even be charged anything more for it

 

[JohanBigBalle]

You definitely need LF2. Dont listen to these gay ass fucking african niggers. Ask your surgeon for 2° CCW rotation with 0,43mm of advancement.

 

[Iota]

You definitely need LF2. Dont listen to these gay ass fucking african niggers. Ask your surgeon for 2° CCW rotation with 0,43mm of advancement.

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