How do I become HTN?

[Deleted member 16220]

Or am I perma-MTN for life?

I've come a long way though..

 

[Deleted member 27550]

Longer hair and colored contacts

 

[lelouch]

You don't have enough facial contours from bones, and your mouth to nose harmony is not the best

 

[Deleted member 21182]

Holy shit you did a lot getting rid of that acne

 

[HalfGypsyMogger]

post side, we can accurate see ur failos, fixing side will fix front too unless(evert gonions, eye area,etc)

 

[Deleted member 21182]

Tho idk exactly u could try leanmaxing and growing ur hair

 

[Deleted member 16220]

You don't have enough facial contours from bones, and your mouth to nose harmony is not the best

Yes i know im half asian so I have just not enough projection even when lean to show any bones. I have an ogee curve though. And not good nose to mouth ratio is an Asian trait as well unfortunately. I know. You can fraud it with a mustache/beard to make the mouth look wider but I can't really grow a strong beard. Ill have to figure something out.

 

[lelouch]

Yes i know im half asian so I have just not enough projection even when lean to show any bones. I have an ogee curve though. And not good nose to mouth ratio is an Asian trait as well unfortunately. I know. You can fraud it with a mustache/beard to make the mouth look wider but I can't really grow a strong beard. Ill have to figure something out.

On the side of your gonions do they flare out, this is very important

 

[Deleted member 29167]

grow out hair, btw nice pct on eyebrows

 

[HalfGypsyMogger]

On the side of your gonions do they flare out, this is very important

he doesn t have outward gonions.

 

[Deleted member 16220]

post side, we can accurate see ur failos, fixing side will fix front too unless(evert gonions, eye area,etc)

I'm definitely slightly recessed. I have CT scans so I know exactly what's wrong with my skull as well lol.

 

[Deleted member 27550]

grow out hair, btw nice pct on eyebrows

Go change ur diapers kid. Also it’s well past ur bed time

 

[Deleted member 29167]

Go change ur diapers kid. Also it’s well past ur bed time

 

[lelouch]

he doesn t have outward gonions.

Dam, without outward gonions its very unlikely your lower third will be defined enough from the front

 

[HalfGypsyMogger]

I'm definitely slightly recessed. I have CT scans so I know exactly what's wrong with my skull as well lol.

yea no point in saying ur maxilla is recessed and flat as asians have this trait, also ur jaw is downgrown
u could benefit from longer hair, ur eyebrows are good also try to appealmax, u have the body for it, basically run the maesthetic type
lean a bit more to show a bit more bones
if u want to hardmaxx u can get some surgeries experts opinion, i m not good at surgeries.

 

[lelouch]

Ideally the biggest changes would be more fuller lips that are wider, a narrower nose, and your jaw to be flaring out and being lean for facial contours.

 

[Deleted member 27550]

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Nigga what?

 

[vinn98]

Lucky not to have deep scarring on your face

 

[HalfGypsyMogger]

Ideally the biggest changes would be more fuller lips that are wider, a narrower nose, and your jaw to be flaring out and being lean for facial contours.

he could get gonion implants for flare and depth to make him look less downgrown, it will impact both side and front for positive.
he would benefit from a better nasion bone to make it more straight
wider lips would be better than narrowing his nose since his nose is good and it will improve his mouth to nose ratio
some genioplasty will improve him too

 

[Deleted member 16220]

Ideally the biggest changes would be more fuller lips that are wider, a narrower nose, and your jaw to be flaring out and being lean for facial contours.

I think I need a lot of surgery then. I can't widen the mouth but I can narrow the nose with a rhinoplasty + alar base reduction. A lip lift can be done for lip fullness. Jaw implants, genio, and implants around the eyes and cheekbones can be done as well.

It's a lot of surgery though.

 

[Maximilian]

you have the same lower third as these men

you should leanmaxx, fix uee, and neckmaxx

 

[HalfGypsyMogger]

I think I need a lot of surgery then. I can't widen the mouth but I can narrow the nose with a rhinoplasty + alar base reduction. A lip lift can be done for lip fullness. Jaw implants, genio, and implants around the eyes and cheekbones can be done as well.

It's a lot of surgery though.

ur palate seems small thus ur mouth too, i expanded my braces via tooth tipping and i got more lip fullness and wider mouth too from better support from teeth, but i am 18 idk about ur age
improving ur mouth will lessen the ratio between ur nose and mouth but a rhinoplasty i feel it would turn u into Michael Jackson nose..

 

[Deleted member 16220]

you have the same lower third as these men
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you should leanmaxx, fix uee, and neckmaxx

I can do all that for sure for sure but my jaw is nowhere near there's i have a pretty small jaw

 

[Deleted member 28896]

lip augmentation, rhino, grow hair, leanmaxx, colored lenses.

 

[Deleted member 16220]

ur palate seems small thus ur mouth too, i expanded my braces via tooth tipping and i got more lip fullness and wider mouth too from better support from teeth, but i am 18 idk about ur age
improving ur mouth will lessen the ratio between ur nose and mouth but a rhinoplasty i feel it would turn u into Michael Jackson nose..

Yes my palate isn't great my teeth are straight though and my occlusion is perfect. Just not wide palate. And you're right I could get a rhino I just can't narrow it too much or it will be too narrow.

How did the braces widen the mouth? This could be an option.

 

[optimisticzoomer]

Need hollow cheeks/zygo contour
Also more supraorbital fat
And wider mouth, narrower nostrils

 

[Maximilian]

I can do all that for sure for sure but my jaw is nowhere near there's i have a pretty small jaw

they all have inverted mandibles and chin like yours. you should leanmaxx and fix your supraorbital fat pad OR grow eyelash to minimalize uee

 

[HalfGypsyMogger]

Yes my palate isn't great my teeth are straight though and my occlusion is perfect. Just not wide palate. And you're right I could get a rhino I just can't narrow it too much or it will be too narrow.

How did the braces widen the mouth? This could be an option.

I had retroclined teeth basically they were facing the palate, i proclined them so they gave my lips better support as i should ve had them also my alveolar bone was moved more forward so better lips again
but if u have straight teeth and good occlusion i dont think it will benefit u since moving ur alveolar bone forward it will make u class 2 so yeah.
maybe mse? i dont have experience with it but i heard it will widen the mouth.

 

[Deleted member 16220]

I had retroclined teeth basically they were facing the palate, i proclined them so they gave my lips better support as i should ve had them also my alveolar bone was moved more forward so better lips again
but if u have straight teeth and good occlusion i dont think it will benefit u since moving ur alveolar bone forward it will make u class 2 so yeah.
maybe mse? i dont have experience with it but i heard it will widen the mouth.

Yeah bro im unfortunately out of luck. You just had a legit failo and bad occlusion and you fixed it and your philtrum probably is proper now instead of flat + better lip projection.

My palate just isn't wide. MSE is fucking risky ive seen dudes get their noses botched to suicide by MSE also MSE doesn't expand the bottom teeth just the top.

Im just out of luck. It's like having average IPD the solution is either get OBO or do an eyebrow transplant and lengthen the eyebrows to fraud wider orbital sockets. In this situation because I can't widen the mouth I should legit just grow a mustache and it would make the mouth look wider.

I have to figure out how to grow a fucking beard. Im serious that would fix this issue. It would also make my slightly long philtrum look normal.

 

[HalfGypsyMogger]

Yeah bro im unfortunately out of luck. You just had a legit failo and bad occlusion and you fixed it and your philtrum probably is proper now instead of flat + better lip projection.

My palate just isn't wide. MSE is fucking risky ive seen dudes get their noses botched to suicide by MSE also MSE doesn't expand the bottom teeth just the top.

Im just out of luck. It's like having average IPD the solution is either get OBO or do an eyebrow transplant and lengthen the eyebrows to fraud wider orbital sockets. In this situation because I can't widen the mouth I should legit just grow a mustache and it would make the mouth look wider.

I have to figure out how to grow a fucking beard. Im serious that would fix this issue. It would also make my slightly long philtrum look normal.

You can get SARPE for wider palate
Ur eyebrows are great, but ur eyes look tired somehow
U can get a short term mustache and a stubble and u would be fine until u find a way to fix ur big failos
Unfortunately this is how asian genes work
however didn t u try minoxidil or some shit for beard and mustache growth?
U can send me a ct scan in PM to see ur skull better if u dont mind, maybe ur bones are covered by fat since i can see plenty of fat around ur mandible and chimpmunk cheeks.

 

[Deleted member 16220]

You can get SARPE for wider palate
Ur eyebrows are great, but ur eyes look tired somehow
U can get a short term mustache and a stubble and u would be fine until u find a way to fix ur big failos
Unfortunately this is how asian genes work
however didn t u try minoxidil or some shit for beard and mustache growth?
U can send me a ct scan in PM to see ur skull better if u dont mind, maybe ur bones are covered by fat since i can see plenty of fat around ur mandible and chimpmunk cheeks.

Wouldn't do SARPE either. It can't expand the lower palate.

I tried to get a beard but I'm a complete minoxidil non responder. I used max strength tretinoin mixed with max strength minoxidil (15%) for a few months and had zero results. So i might not be able to even grow a beard...that's just life. Asians don't grow facial hair usually anyways. My dad can but he's white and bald. Im on dutasteride because I started losing hair and I imagine I would grow a beard but I don't want to end up bald. My brother is bald with a beard.

This is my CT scan. Jaw is just small.

 

[szolliontaraelis]

IMO you have a high SMV. You can do well irl if you continue gymmaxxing/leanmaxxing, along with extra neck training. Although as the others said, some of your features do lack certain harmony.

 

[Deleted member 16220]

IMO you have a high SMV. You can do well irl if you continue gymmaxxing/leanmaxxing, along with extra neck training. Although as the others said, some of your features do lack certain harmony.

I seriously neglected the importance of neck until I saw this guy

 

[rand anon]

Grow out ur hair and leanmaxx. If that isn't enough, rhino, then a bunch of implants

 

[Deleted member 16683]

ur palate seems small thus ur mouth too, i expanded my braces via tooth tipping and i got more lip fullness and wider mouth too from better support from teeth, but i am 18 idk about ur age
improving ur mouth will lessen the ratio between ur nose and mouth but a rhinoplasty i feel it would turn u into Michael Jackson nose..

could u pm ur results of the thing that widened ur mouth like a before and after

 

[grimy]

Do people tell you that you look mad all the time? I have a similar brow arch and it gives me resting bitch face

 

[Deleted member 16683]

here

 

[Deleted member 16220]

Do people tell you that you look mad all the time? I have a similar brow arch and it gives me resting bitch face

My eyebrows isn't supposed to be PCTd. Basically i come from a BRUTAL childhood and my dad would beat me so bloody that my muscles detached from my face and re attached lower. My nose is also crooked from it too. I come from a bottom 1% luck set of parents so that's the reason I think the way i do, i was exposed to the brutal nature of reality by the time I was 7 years old.

 

[HalfGypsyMogger]

could u pm ur results of the thing that widened ur mouth like a before and after

first pic is at 14 and second at 18(now)

both pics are from ID so there s not any light and angle difference

 

[looksmidder]

first pic is at 14 and second at 18(now)

both pics are from ID so there s not any light and angle difference
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are they actually wider? they just look fuller tbh

 

[looksmidder]

My eyebrows isn't supposed to be PCTd. Basically i come from a BRUTAL childhood and my dad would beat me so bloody that my muscles detached from my face and re attached lower. My nose is also crooked from it too. I come from a bottom 1% luck set of parents so that's the reason I think the way i do, i was exposed to the brutal nature of reality by the time I was 7 years old.

holy shit that’s fucking brutal man

 

[HalfGypsyMogger]

are they actually wider? they just look fuller tbh

they widened a bit not that much, also yes they are fuller because i have better support from teeth

also my philtrum decreased because i have fuller lips now, it worked like a lip lift but natural.

 

[HalfGypsyMogger]

Btw op if u want ur lips to look wider and fuller lose the buccal fat through decreasing body fat, ur lips would be more stretched and not pushed by buccal fat, this is on what i m working rn to decrease my body fat and show my angularity cuz i have the bones and soft tissue placement

 

[AspiringMogger]

Or am I perma-MTN for life?

This isn’t a neg but I think facially you are LTN. You look like the regular guy off the street.

 

[Deleted member 16220]

This isn’t a neg but I think facially you are LTN. You look like the regular guy off the street.

That's mid tier normie then.

 

[AspiringMogger]

That's mid tier normie then.

Nah MTN is average guy having sex which is better looking than the average person on the street. If you are mogged by the average guy on the street it’s over tbh. You look like a regular guy walking around.

 

[Deleted member 16220]

Nah MTN is average guy having sex which is better looking than the average person on the street. If you are mogged by the average guy on the street it’s over tbh. You look like a regular guy walking around.

I might look normal but the character inside me is not normal.

I'll succeed in due time.