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i will take any women thats around my age and not obese, im not rich but also not poor.

how do i convince them? like surely atleast 1 must have some pity and ascend me from khhv status?

ill be happy with even only a hug, but ofc i would want more.

anybody thats not tall and or mtn or higher that has advice?
 
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i will take any women thats around my age and not obese, im not rich but also not poor.

how do i convince them? like surely atleast 1 must have some pity and ascend me from khhv status?

ill be happy with even only a hug, but ofc i would want more.

anybody thats not tall and or mtn or higher that has advice?
cant,ascend or die trying
 
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i will take any women thats around my age and not obese, im not rich but also not poor.

how do i convince them? like surely atleast 1 must have some pity and ascend me from khhv status?

ill be happy with even only a hug, but ofc i would want more.

anybody thats not tall and or mtn or higher that has advice?
Hypnotism or find someone very desperate or on the rebound
 
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By being completely out of their league
 
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Hypnotism or find someone very desperate or on the rebound
eh idk if i have enough time to do hypnotism without them noticing.

dont women who are desperate or on a rebound go to clubs to fuck chads? idk how that is gonna work out for me
By being completely out of their league
please read my post, i am obviously not out of their league, im literally IN THEIR LEAGUE, thats the whole point im looking for ugly not fat women
 
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i will take any women thats around my age and not obese, im not rich but also not poor.

how do i convince them? like surely atleast 1 must have some pity and ascend me from khhv status?

ill be happy with even only a hug, but ofc i would want more.

anybody thats not tall and or mtn or higher that has advice?
go hug ur mom you'll release the same amount of oxytocin and it'll help make her day better problem solved every other women will leave you at some point if given the right circumstances why waste ur time. think of them as a leech mby treat them accordingly which may help with ur nt and get u more matches
 
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go hug ur mom you'll release the same amount of oxytocin and it'll help make her day better problem solved
maybe i should yh
every other women will leave you at some point if given the right circumstances why waste ur time. think of them as a leech mby treat them accordingly which may help with ur nt and get u more matches
tbh i dont even mind if they leave me, i just wanna lose my khhv status without using an escort

i dont think nt matters thats why im trying to go for women that are ugly, and even below my looksmatch, so that i "mog" them ( not in a weird way but in the way that i have more chance you know)
 
i will take any women thats around my age and not obese, im not rich but also not poor.

how do i convince them? like surely atleast 1 must have some pity and ascend me from khhv status?

ill be happy with even only a hug, but ofc i would want more.

anybody thats not tall and or mtn or higher that has advice?
don't go for looksmatches just go for pretty bitches, the ugly bitches have too much ego and retarded expectations, but the pretty bitches could do the same but at least they're pretty
they all lie and cheat

and i had a idea that pretty bitches have less ego because no guys actually have the balls to approach them in the first place and rather go for someone "in their league"
 
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don't go for looksmatches just go for pretty bitches, the ugly bitches have too much ego and retarded expectations, but the pretty bitches could do the same but at least they're pretty
they all lie and cheat

and i had a idea that pretty bitches have less ego because no guys actually have the balls to approach them in the first place and rather go for someone "in their league"
then again im a retarded little grey toddler that knows nothing
 
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don't go for looksmatches just go for pretty bitches
but im not pretty, thats kind of the thing you know, i am like a 4 and short where i live
, the ugly bitches have too much ego and retarded expectations, but the pretty bitches could do the same but at least they're pretty
they all lie and cheat
so you say they have the same exact standards? i know hypergamy is out of hand but surely some of them have lower standards, even like maybe 10% of ugly women
and i had a idea that pretty bitches have less ego because no guys actually have the balls to approach them in the first place and rather go for someone "in their league"
idk i dont think thats true, if you are good looking enough they will aproach you, i have seen it myself in reallife
 
maybe i should yh

tbh i dont even mind if they leave me, i just wanna lose my khhv status without using an escort

i dont think nt matters thats why im trying to go for women that are ugly, and even below my looksmatch, so that i "mog" them ( not in a weird way but in the way that i have more chance you know)
i understand ur approach and it makes practical sense but there are so many other unknown factors at play that the second something goes wrong and it doesnt work out you'll be left to figure it out which in most cases deepens the rabbit hole, have u tried simply not caring which way it goes? (zero expectations therefore outcomes cant negate u) or trying quantity? i mean u said ur stooping down to looksmatch or even lower so why not just take 100 free throws youre bound to make 1 right? if not then idk man take modafinil + alcohol n keep trying or change ur goals to not be so dependent on womans response
 
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i understand ur approach and it makes practical sense but there are so many other unknown factors at play that the second something goes wrong and it doesnt work out you'll be left to figure it out which in most cases deepens the rabbit hole, have u tried simply not caring which way it goes? (zero expectations therefore outcomes cant negate u)
no to be honest
or trying quantity?
also no tbh, ik people will clown me but i only approached 1 time in hs
i mean u said ur stooping down to looksmatch or even lower so why not just take 100 free throws youre bound to make 1 right?
so many problems, but you are right, i didnt mention them:
1. idk where to find them
2. i have never had an ugly girl ( or any girl) give me ioi
if not then idk man take modafinil + alcohol n keep trying or change ur goals to not be so dependent on womans response
yes im gonna order modafinil on my next substance's order, but i thought thats for studying?
and i dont drink alchohol
 
i understand ur approach and it makes practical sense but there are so many other unknown factors at play that the second something goes wrong and it doesnt work out you'll be left to figure it out which in most cases deepens the rabbit hole, have u tried simply not caring which way it goes? (zero expectations therefore outcomes cant negate u) or trying quantity? i mean u said ur stooping down to looksmatch or even lower so why not just take 100 free throws youre bound to make 1 right? if not then idk man take modafinil + alcohol n keep trying or change ur goals to not be so dependent on womans response
where would you suggest to find ugly women, besides geomaxxing?

i want to try that later but my situation doesnt allow it right now
 
no to be honest

also no tbh, ik people will clown me but i only approached 1 time in hs

so many problems, but you are right, i didnt mention them:
1. idk where to find them
2. i have never had an ugly girl ( or any girl) give me ioi

yes im gonna order modafinil on my next substance's order, but i thought thats for studying?
and i dont drink alchohol
yeah i totally get the 1 approach thing its a complete mood killer and mental sweep after you've been rejected the stronger the mind the more time it spends trying to rationalize a solution for stated problem but on the bright side it also allows for a faster get back. the stuff you mentioned below that is totally up to u my insight wont help u in anyway since its subjective on both ends. and the moda/alc was js a suggestion to lower inhib. girls like natural talkers if u can bind and make her feel a multitude of emotions at once (or in one interaction) she is more likely to consider u not boring or stale which ig increases ur chances. there's always an on going debate on what matters most in this instance (face height status personality class blah blah etc etc) in reality its a mixture of all of them DEPENDING on the subject which means its ever changing and you cannot use a single approach (mentally or physically) for every single girl. so imagine this ur trying to (based off little to no input) introduce yourself to said girl in a way that makes her be interested in her ur doing all this based off YOUR thought of what she likes not HERS so buddy idk how to tell u this but even the smallest parts are mostly luck obv some approaches are always gonna be objectively better more so if ur physically attractive but it all comes down to chance so dk man mental max serotonin max and start being more care free sometimes the things you sought so much over come to you naturally once they leave the loop in ur mind. keep trying everything you can think of eventually something will work
 
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You cant, dating inflation
 
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yeah i totally get the 1 approach thing its a complete mood killer and mental sweep after you've been rejected the stronger the mind the more time it spends trying to rationalize a solution for stated problem
you are right about that last part
but on the bright side it also allows for a faster get back. the stuff you mentioned below that is totally up to u my insight wont help u in anyway since its subjective on both ends. and the moda/alc was js a suggestion to lower inhib.
yh i take thc but it kinda effects my memory, wich is good since 80% of my thoughts are negative so i dont have to think about those, but i need my brain for college
girls like natural talkers if u can bind and make her feel a multitude of emotions at once (or in one interaction) she is more likely to consider u not boring or stale which ig increases ur chances. there's always an on going debate on what matters most in this instance (face height status personality class blah blah etc etc) in reality its a mixture of all of them DEPENDING on the subject which means its ever changing and you cannot use a single approach (mentally or physically) for every single girl. so imagine this ur trying to (based off little to no input) introduce yourself to said girl in a way that makes her be interested in her ur doing all this based off YOUR thought of what she likes not HERS so buddy idk how to tell u this but even the smallest parts are mostly luck obv some approaches are always gonna be objectively better more so if ur physically attractive but it all comes down to chance
true
so dk man mental max serotonin max and start being more care free sometimes the things you sought so much over come to you naturally once they leave the loop in ur mind. keep trying everything you can think of eventually something will work
You put alot of effort i notice, thanks alot
 
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you are right about that last part

yh i take thc but it kinda effects my memory, wich is good since 80% of my thoughts are negative so i dont have to think about those, but i need my brain for college

true

You put alot of effort i notice, thanks alot
might wanna ween off the thc, just makes u a slow retard the more u use it. id look into which class of drug suits u best in a given circumstance. for ex i have adhd so stimulants help me greatly in social aspects (i never talked unless prompted all throughout school) n didnt know why till recently. when i get high off w or thc i can literally feel my brain becoming smoother and everything I say is moronic and everything I do is delayed thats js me tho dk how it affects u. (psychs, sedatives, stimulants, noots, etc)
 
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might wanna ween off the thc, just makes u a slow retard the more u use it.
i know but not to sound corny but its the only thing that stops bad thoughts and allows me to be normal/happy
Im not addicted but i just go back to how i am before using, wich id rather not
id look into which class of drug suits u best in a given circumstance. for ex i have adhd so stimulants help me greatly in social aspects
i wanna get tested for that, but mostly for focus
I have no interest in social life besides being with a girl
(i never talked unless prompted all throughout school)
Same ig
n didnt know why till recently. when i get high off w or thc i can literally feel my brain becoming smoother and everything I say is moronic and everything I do is delayed thats js me tho dk how it affects u. (psychs, sedatives, stimulants, noots, etc)
I dont take it in public, so idk how i talk while using it, but for me it just allows me to turn off parts of my brain, normally i cant even have some peace in my mind unless im sleeping
 
i will take any women thats around my age and not obese, im not rich but also not poor.

how do i convince them? like surely atleast 1 must have some pity and ascend me from khhv status?

ill be happy with even only a hug, but ofc i would want more.

anybody thats not tall and or mtn or higher that has advice?
just nichemax bro, like get good at something like horseriding or running, (smthn active girls do) or get a fuck tonne of tattoos or smthn idk
 
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just nichemax bro, like get good at something like horseriding or running,
No time and im looking for ugly girls, most girls that do that are rich and hot
(smthn active girls do) or get a fuck tonne of tattoos or smthn idk
My parents would kill me
also if ur awk take pregab
Thats not gonna help me get ugly girls or look better, i took something simular but i didnt feel a diff socially
 
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i know but not to sound corny but its the only thing that stops bad thoughts and allows me to be normal/happy
Im not addicted but i just go back to how i am before using, wich id rather not

i wanna get tested for that, but mostly for focus
I have no interest in social life besides being with a girl

Same ig

I dont take it in public, so idk how i talk while using it, but for me it just allows me to turn off parts of my brain, normally i cant even have some peace in my mind unless im sleeping
yet again its understandable and relatable, i think most average teens turn to these kinds of "mid" drugs after a certain event occurred in which they cant fully rationalize yet whether that be due to the instance being obscure or the lack of capacity since we are still mentally growing. imo there is a small percentage of people who go through these events and think "hmm maybe Ill just not care" (and r able to do so which is pretty hard for sum1 like me or mby u 2) and an even smaller percentage of people who choose to look into these deeper less surface level drugs such as noots or some stimulants. I can say I was in the same boat as u when it came to thc or what not unitl i realized it was only making my problem worse or not helping at all. think of a horizontal line scale right. you are in the middle (median) left is negative right positive obv when I take thc I either stay where I am (nothing changes I go to sleep problem is still present next day) or it becomes worse (goes left) (I go to sleep wake up and the problem has become observably worse) and instead of finding solutions I spent my time doom scrolling on tiktok laughing my ass off munching on junk. where as stimulants for me only move me in the right/east direction. from what ive read it sounds like u have some tendencies of adhd in the us its stupidly easily to get prescribed medication (they're all jewish and want ur money dont care abt u) in my case I went 18 years without knowing and one day while I was talking to my therapist (that I had to mandatorily go to for an unrelated issue) said I have adhd and next thing u know im talking to a psychiatrist that says lets start you on addy (it works, im fairly new to stimulants so im trying to navigate it safely w/o frying my brain) js remember stuff like thc and alc stuff that slows u down is never a permanent solution trust me from experience if its temporarily helping you get out of a hole u dug urself too deep into so be it, but u have to ween off at some point and try different approaches. lastly my retrospective outlook on drugs is that they all have their say in where they do good, so microdose depending on the circumstance and live ur life man u seem like a smart kid who just hit a natural road block do not worry tm it will get better. when they say time heals it isnt cope (ONLY IF U ALLOW IT BY WEENING OFF THE BAD THOUGHTS INTERNALLY IN UR MIND).
 
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No time and im looking for ugly girls, most girls that do that are rich and hot
why bruh
My parents would kill me
yh but thats exactly why girls like that shit, it proves that youre low inhib/ dgaf about societal expectations e.g. chad mindset
Thats not gonna help me get ugly girls or look better, i took something simular but i didnt feel a diff socially
thats weird, have you tried going to a club/party and getting fucked up or snorting coke. Honestly if u have coke or drinks girls will act nicer to u just to get some of it. Kinda over if u live in us cuz of the drinkin age but
 
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yet again its understandable and relatable, i think most average teens turn to these kinds of "mid" drugs after a certain event occurred in which they cant fully rationalize yet whether that be due to the instance being obscure or the lack of capacity since we are still mentally growing. imo there is a small percentage of people who go through these events and think "hmm maybe Ill just not care" (and r able to do so which is pretty hard for sum1 like me or mby u 2) and an even smaller percentage of people who choose to look into these deeper less surface level drugs such as noots or some stimulants. I can say I was in the same boat as u when it came to thc or what not unitl i realized it was only making my problem worse or not helping at all. think of a horizontal line scale right. you are in the middle (median) left is negative right positive obv when I take thc I either stay where I am (nothing changes I go to sleep problem is still present next day) or it becomes worse (goes left) (I go to sleep wake up and the problem has become observably worse) and instead of finding solutions I spent my time doom scrolling on tiktok laughing my ass off munching on junk. where as stimulants for me only move me in the right/east direction. from what ive read it sounds like u have some tendencies of adhd in the us its stupidly easily to get prescribed medication (they're all jewish and want ur money dont care abt u) in my case I went 18 years without knowing and one day while I was talking to my therapist (that I had to mandatorily go to for an unrelated issue) said I have adhd and next thing u know im talking to a psychiatrist that says lets start you on addy (it works, im fairly new to stimulants so im trying to navigate it safely w/o frying my brain) js remember stuff like thc and alc stuff that slows u down is never a permanent solution trust me from experience if its temporarily helping you get out of a hole u dug urself too deep into so be it, but u have to ween off at some point and try different approaches. lastly my retrospective outlook on drugs is that they all have their say in where they do good, so microdose depending on the circumstance and live ur life man u seem like a smart kid who just hit a natural road block do not worry tm it will get better. when they say time heals it isnt cope (ONLY IF U ALLOW IT BY WEENING OFF THE BAD THOUGHTS INTERNALLY IN UR MIND).
bro said ll enthusiast do you have 300k to afford that shit jfl
 
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Dude just get fucking rich and hardmax. even if you don’t hardmax bitches love rich people with status, especially since you don’t care if they leave you.
 
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yet again its understandable and relatable, i think most average teens turn to these kinds of "mid" drugs after a certain event occurred in which they cant fully rationalize yet whether that be due to the instance being obscure or the lack of capacity since we are still mentally growing. imo there is a small percentage of people who go through these events and think "hmm maybe Ill just not care" (and r able to do so which is pretty hard for sum1 like me or mby u 2)
I was able to for a while but at a certain point and discovering it, its really hard
and an even smaller percentage of people who choose to look into these deeper less surface level drugs such as noots or some stimulants. I can say I was in the same boat as u when it came to thc or what not unitl i realized it was only making my problem worse or not helping at all. think of a horizontal line scale right. you are in the middle (median) left is negative right positive obv when I take thc I either stay where I am (nothing changes I go to sleep problem is still present next day) or it becomes worse (goes left) (I go to sleep wake up and the problem has become observably worse) and instead of finding solutions I spent my time doom scrolling on tiktok laughing my ass off munching on junk.
lol yh
where as stimulants for me only move me in the right/east direction. from what ive read it sounds like u have some tendencies of adhd in the us its stupidly easily to get prescribed medication (they're all jewish and want ur money dont care abt u)
Im in netherlands but ill try
in my case I went 18 years without knowing and one day while I was talking to my therapist (that I had to mandatorily go to for an unrelated issue) said I have adhd and next thing u know im talking to a psychiatrist that says lets start you on addy (it works, im fairly new to stimulants so im trying to navigate it safely w/o frying my brain) js remember stuff like thc and alc stuff that slows u down is never a permanent solution trust
Yes ik, thats why i asked and made this thread
me from experience if its temporarily helping you get out of a hole u dug urself too deep into so be it, but u have to ween off at some point and try different approaches. lastly my retrospective outlook on drugs is that they all have their say in where they do good, so microdose depending on the circumstance and live ur life man u seem like a smart kid who just hit a natural road block do not worry tm it will get better. when they say time heals it isnt cope (ONLY IF U ALLOW IT BY WEENING OFF THE BAD THOUGHTS INTERNALLY IN UR MIND).
Ik thx alot man
I think worst part is a bleak future, no hope.
I used to have alot of hope wich made it bearable but knowing i do all this work for nothing is heartbreaking
 
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More chance
yh but thats exactly why girls like that shit, it proves that youre low inhib/ dgaf about societal expectations e.g. chad mindset

thats weird, have you tried going to a club/party
never been invited
and getting fucked up or snorting coke.
eh no, idk where i would even get coke
Honestly if u have coke or drinks girls will act nicer to u just to get some of it.
i know but idk any dealers
Kinda over if u live in us cuz of the drinkin age but
I Can drink in my country
 
Dude just get fucking rich and hardmax. even if you don’t hardmax bitches love rich people with status, especially since you don’t care if they leave you.
I know but getting rich is the most hardest and most luckbased thing on this planet.

Im trying but chance is so small
 
Im gonna go sleep, ill reply to all of the reply's when i wake up
 
I know but getting rich is the most hardest and most luckbased thing on this planet.

Im trying but chance is so small
It’s really not bro just find the right people that’s what I did. In the next 3ish months I’ll be set for life.
 
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I know but getting rich is the most hardest and most luckbased thing on this planet.

Im trying but chance is so small
Bro u live once, I see no point in living if ur not at least trying to get there.
 
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From my own personal experience. If you’re ugly you can’t rlly pull ugly women. I’d say I’m a 6/10 and I auto attract LTN to me, I’d say be above MTN and it’s just luck at some points bc you could be MTn but 5’9 and it be over.
 
I was able to for a while but at a certain point and discovering it, its really hard

lol yh

Im in netherlands but ill try

Yes ik, thats why i asked and made this thread

Ik thx alot man
I think worst part is a bleak future, no hope.
I used to have alot of hope wich made it bearable but knowing i do all this work for nothing is heartbreaking
yeah its really hard to advise on something that hits so close to home yk, from a general viewpoint ppl in the eu especially places like Netherlands the Populus is alot less retarded than the americans so mby geomaxx to here and you'll potentially have better luck cs all the bitches are gen so out of touch with reality that they act solely on chemical/ hormonal reaction. also side note ik the heightpill there must be brooootal def recommend moving somewhere else when ur older. life isnt about trying to be someone else or basing success on another persons subjective inputs its about maximizing what YOU were given its just on you to figure out what you excel in which takes time. and never think of anything as pointless or meaningless everyting has a positive r negative output. you tried you failed oh well now you have all the knowledge that you can incorporate in infinite other fields and ways in doing so. try try again if u give up its over. we r all going to die it doesnt matter when. if you die tom its the same as dying at 80 YOU will never get to experience anything you worked for so in a sense everything is pointless in the long run thats why its so critical to look at everything with the right lens whether thats time effort etc. small quality > long quantity. ur genes have evolved and survived up until this point which is enough of an indication as to you making something of yourself dont waste it by letting literal chemical reactions in ur brain take control over u. u arent ur brain ur a seperate energy everything is connected but also singularily acting, navigate correctly and you will suffice.
 
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i will take any women thats around my age and not obese, im not rich but also not poor.

how do i convince them? like surely atleast 1 must have some pity and ascend me from khhv status?

ill be happy with even only a hug, but ofc i would want more.

anybody thats not tall and or mtn or higher that has advice?
get hinge bro, im average-bellow average AND fat and got like 200 likes in a couple days. i don’t know why but they'll take anyone on that app
 
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my bad for taking so long to reply i was coping (any strategy that isnt genetics or surgery)
but im not pretty, thats kind of the thing you know, i am like a 4 and short where i live
yeah exactly youd probably have the equal amount if not more chances


so you say they have the same exact standards? i know hypergamy is out of hand but surely some of them have lower standards, even like maybe 10% of ugly women
as i said theyre all the same so just go for the prettiest one and dont get butthurt when they reject you just go to the next
idk i dont think thats true, if you are good looking enough they will aproach you, i have seen it myself in reallife
well it was just like a ideology that i made, ugly bitches would still want a chadlite regardless
 
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Don’t bro
Ugly women’s have mental problems
 
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Bro u live once, I see no point in living if ur not at least trying to get there.
Ig but money doesnt interest me, besides having enough to take care of my family, materialistics dont make me happy.

I have a decent amount of money but only things i spend money on are food and gym related things
 
From my own personal experience. If you’re ugly you can’t rlly pull ugly women. I’d say I’m a 6/10 and I auto attract LTN to me, I’d say be above MTN and it’s just luck at some points bc you could be MTn but 5’9 and it be over.
Wow, thats what i expected yh sad
And i asume you mean ltbs lol
 
yeah its really hard to advise on something that hits so close to home yk, from a general viewpoint ppl in the eu especially places like Netherlands the Populus is alot less retarded than the americans so mby geomaxx to here and you'll potentially have better luck cs all the bitches are gen so out of touch with reality that they act solely on chemical/ hormonal reaction
fr? Ig ill try then
. also side note ik the heightpill there must be brooootal def recommend moving somewhere else when ur older.
yes i already am planning this as soon as i graduate
life isnt about trying to be someone else or basing success on another persons subjective inputs its about maximizing what YOU were given its just on you to figure out what you excel in which takes time. and never think of anything as pointless or meaningless everyting has a positive r negative output. you tried you failed oh well now you have all the knowledge that you can incorporate in infinite other fields and ways in doing so. try try again if u give up its over. we r all going to die it doesnt matter when. if you die tom its the same as dying at 80 YOU will never get to experience anything you worked for so in a sense everything is
thats true, didnt think like that
pointless in the long run thats why its so critical to look at everything with the right lens whether thats time effort etc. small quality > long quantity. ur genes have evolved and survived up until this point which is enough of an indication as to you making something of yourself dont waste it by letting literal chemical reactions in ur brain take control over u. u arent ur brain ur a seperate energy everything is connected but also singularily acting, navigate correctly and you will suffice.
Hmm i see, thanks, ig ill just keep trying
 
my bad for taking so long to reply i was coping (any strategy that isnt genetics or surgery
Dw i was sleeping
yeah exactly youd probably have the equal amount if not more chances
Yh
as i said theyre all the same so just go for the prettiest one and dont get butthurt when they reject you just go to the next

well it was just like a ideology that i made, ugly bitches would still want a chadlite regardless
oke, thx for the advice
 
ulus is alot less retarded than the americans so mby geomaxx to here and you'll potentially have better luck cs all the bitches are gen so out of touch with reality that they act solely on
Bro i was on tiktok and you are right, the american women its like their brain works like a child, in a not good way.

Maybe its with all the women but idk
 
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