How do i cope boyos?

[ropemaxx]

Can someone tell me how to cope. I cant take being an incel no more.
I havnt left the house in months. I have too much anxiety. I have nothing

Any advice? Is the rope the only thing i have left?

 

[Deleted member 3020]

why cope when u can rope

 

[RoundHouse]

Can someone tell me how to cope. I cant take being an incel no more.
I havnt left the house in months. I have too much anxiety. I have nothing

Any advice? Is the rope the only thing i have left?

Idk, but dont rope nigga its not worth it

 

[Deleted member 10686]

Action relieves anxiety

 

[ropemaxx]

Action relieves anxiety

what action

 

[Deleted member 10686]

what action

Whatever brings you closer to your goals

 

[quakociaptockh]

Have you tried meds?

Where are you from? Are you under lockdown, where you live? Can you go somewhere, like to a bar or gym?

 

[ropemaxx]

Have you tried meds?

Where are you from? Are you under lockdown, where you live? Can you go somewhere, like to a bar or gym?

Im from sweden. I dont have any social life whatsoever
Im too anxious to leave my house. Im a neet too.
I cant see anyone in the world turning around this life situation tbh. Its beyond over for me

 

[GymcelDoomer]

leave ur house

 

[GymcelDoomer]

Have you tried meds?

Where are you from? Are you under lockdown, where you live? Can you go somewhere, like to a bar or gym?

jfl sweden is one of the few countries in the eu that hasn't enacted a lockdown. op could literally go outside and do something productive

 

[GymcelDoomer]

Im from sweden. I dont have any social life whatsoever
Im too anxious to leave my house. Im a neet too.
I cant see anyone in the world turning around this life situation tbh. Its beyond over for me

mastering discipline in one area carries over to other areas. i suggest borrowing 50-100 euros from your parents and joining a gym. focus on lifting and nothing else. u will notice everything will start changing from ur body chemistry to ur physical appearance. as ur body adapts and get stronger so will ur mind - now ur more confident and motivated to do things

 

[JustBeCurry]

just rope pussy everyone is fucked in the long run

 

[Deleted member 10536]

Can someone tell me how to cope. I cant take being an incel no more.
I havnt left the house in months. I have too much anxiety. I have nothing

Any advice? Is the rope the only thing i have left?

Ever tried drugs? Might work for a little while, till you think of something new/else.
Find a job? If you're not doing anything, at least it won't be a 100% waste of the time, it'd be put into some kind of use, but tbh it sucks too, depending on job. Try to find something not for money, but 4fun?
Leaving house is a meme, but anxiety is a meme too.
I have nothing too, so I know how much it sucks. At least I like looking at the mirror.

 

[ropemaxx]

mastering discipline in one area carries over to other areas. i suggest borrowing 50-100 euros from your parents and joining a gym. focus on lifting and nothing else. u will notice everything will start changing from ur body chemistry to ur physical appearance. as ur body adapts and get stronger so will ur mind - now ur more confident and motivated to do things

I gymcel but do so at home. Its all i think about except suicide. Its a 50/50% really

leave ur house

And do what? Also leaving the house makes me super anxious

 

[ropemaxx]

Ever tried drugs? Might work for a little while, till you think of something new/else.
Find a job? If you're not doing anything, at least it won't be a 100% waste of the time, it'd be put into some kind of use, but tbh it sucks too, depending on job. Try to find something not for money, but 4fun?
Leaving house is a meme, but anxiety is a meme too.
I have nothing too, so I know how much it sucks. At least I like looking at the mirror.

Bro how is anxiety a meme? Only a person without anxiety would ever say such a thing
Its a lifethreating disorder that makes every second of life a miserable hell and destroys most chances at even a normal life

 

[ropemaxx]

Have you tried meds?

Where are you from? Are you under lockdown, where you live? Can you go somewhere, like to a bar or gym?

I once asked a doctor for meds. he denied me

 

[quakociaptockh]

I once asked a doctor for meds. he denied me

Fuck doctors. They're not there to help you. Only an incel can help an incel.

I assume you haven't tried meds. That's something you could do.

Are you under lockdown or can you go outside? Are you shut-in or do you have any friends?

 

[Deleted member 10536]

Bro how is anxiety a meme? Only a person without anxiety would ever say such a thing
Its a lifethreating disorder that makes every second of life a miserable hell and destroys most chances at even a normal life

Because it's all in your head. The world is such a safe place nowadays and nobody even really gives a fuck about you. There's no danger or anything, and even if there was, why do you give a fuck? Not like you're an important person who does *things* or not like you have overly high value of life for your own self so to say, either. Explain to me, what have you got to lose? Besides some kind of actually illogical fear over non-existent things.
I know it too well, because I was like that too. Till I wasn't, because there's no fucking reason to be that way. Though, 90% of nt-people would still say I have anxiety/whatever issues. But it's just who I am, they can suck my dick.
Considering you're from sweden, I'd argue I'm so much worse off, not that it matters.
Unironically just try to bee more like yourself. Do the basic things for yourself.
I'm a friendless (0 friends) khhv, tell me about "normal" life.

 

[quakociaptockh]

Because it's all in your head. The world is such a safe place nowadays and nobody even really gives a fuck about you. There's no danger or anything, and even if there was, why do you give a fuck?

That's actually not true.

There are bullies. There are bad people. There are scums who could harm you in non-physical way, like make you lose job or make fun of you, which hurts like physical pain. (Duckduckgo: social defeat.)

Fuck "the world is safe", "everything will be all right", "people are good".
This is not the right affirmation. This is bullshit.

The right affirmation is: "I am stronger".

 

[ropemaxx]

Because it's all in your head. The world is such a safe place nowadays and nobody even really gives a fuck about you. There's no danger or anything, and even if there was, why do you give a fuck? Not like you're an important person who does *things* or not like you have overly high value of life for your own self so to say, either. Explain to me, what have you got to lose? Besides some kind of actually illogical fear over non-existent things.
I know it too well, because I was like that too. Till I wasn't, because there's no fucking reason to be that way. Though, 90% of nt-people would still say I have anxiety/whatever issues. But it's just who I am, they can suck my dick.
Considering you're from sweden, I'd argue I'm so much worse off, not that it matters.
Unironically just try to bee more like yourself. Do the basic things for yourself.
I'm a friendless (0 friends) khhv, tell me about "normal" life.

Then you dont have anxiety.
Anxiety is there no matter what thoughts you have. If a tiger charges you, it doesnt matter what comforting thoughts you have, your amygdala doesnt give a flying fuck about your thoughts or logic.
Same with me. I have social anxiety and general anxiety. No matter what i do, its still there and sharp as always.
Everything is in our head. Your sexuality is in your head. Can you become gay tomorrow if you wanted to? Probably not.
Can you not be aroused by a sexy woman? No

Same for me. I cant help what i feel and my feelings are overwhelming.

Fuck doctors. They're not there to help you. Only an incel can help an incel.

I assume you haven't tried meds. That's something you could do.

Are you under lockdown or can you go outside? Are you shut-in or do you have any friends?

Yes but where would i get meds if not legally?
We are not really under lockdown, although they changed the night life rules recently.
Im a complete shut in and dont have any friends or social life what so ever. I dont know how i would go about making friends or getting a social life

 

[Deleted member 10449]

It sounds to me like you suffer from social anxiety

If that is the case it is highly treatable

I was a cripple who could not get out of his room to even go buy food

2 years later after CBT I am finally going to parties (for over half year now)

Speak with a psychotherapist who is experienced in SAD and uses CBT to treat it. Once you get diagnosed insurance will cover all costs so don't worry about it

 

[Deleted member 10536]

There are bullies. There are bad people. There are scums who could harm you in non-physical way, like make you lose job or make fun of you, which hurts like physical pain. (Duckduckgo: social defeat.)

Actually something I deal pretty much on a daily basis. Maybe I just don't care anymore? I just laugh at them or tell them to fuck off, depending on the way they try to bully or insult me/be demeaning. I doubt op even has it half as bad though.
Rest? Idk really. I mean words can hurt, but they're not causing/putting you in a physical danger.
I never said people are good, but it's literally no point for people to try to attack you physically over your looks/behaviour in the street, as it'd bring them more trouble than whatever possible(what kind of even?) gain. No nt person would do that.

 

[quakociaptockh]

Yes but where would i get meds if not legally?

Try valerian for starters. Most drugs are legal.

We are not really under lockdown, although they changed the night life rules recently.
Im a complete shut in and dont have any friends or social life what so ever. I dont know how i would go about making friends or getting a social life

You have a choice.

If you have social anxiety, then you percieve humans as threat. That you can't change, it's subconscious.

However you can choose how you react to that threat. You can run away or attack. You can react with fear or with anger. Choose the latter. It's really that simple. There will be actually a hormonal change in your brain. If you choose to run (fear) you will get a shot of adrenaline and noradrenaline. If you choose to fight, you will get adrenaline and endorphins.

Go somewhere, like to a shop or whatever. If people are friendly, everything is OK. If they're not, react with anger, not fear. It's that simple.

 

[Deleted member 10449]

By the way, dn rd any of the other posts

But if you really have social anxiety don't under any circumstances take advice on the internet especially aspie forums

People have no clue what they are talking about and nobody is trained in western psychiatry to be able to give you advice

Talk with a professional. Advice over the internet will only serve to obliterate you mentally

 

[quakociaptockh]

I never said people are good, but it's literally no point for people to try to attack you physically over your looks/behaviour in the street, as it'd bring them more trouble than whatever possible(what kind of even?) gain. No nt person would do that.

They don't have to attack you physically. Only if they ridicule you, it's as bad for mental health.

It only gets worse if you have something to lose, like opinion, social status or money. Or most important: respect in the eyes of a foid.

 

[quakociaptockh]

Talk with a professional. Advice over the internet will only serve to obliterate you mentally

Never talk with therapists. They are not friends.

 

[Deleted member 10679]

I got you homie

 

[Deleted member 10449]

Never talk with therapists. They are not friends.

Exactly

Friends can't treat social anxiety, and certainly aspies on incel forums can't

Psychotherapists on the other side have been trained to treat these very cases. Don't give bullshit advice to someone who sounds suicidal when you don't have a clue what you are talking about

 

[MaxillaIsEverything]

Just dont go ER. go down the way you lived all your life. alone. Not saying you should although it sounds pretty over but if your gonna do it dont go ER.

 

[ropemaxx]

It sounds to me like you suffer from social anxiety

If that is the case it is highly treatable

I was a cripple who could not get out of his room to even go buy food

2 years later after CBT I am finally going to parties (for over half year now)

Speak with a psychotherapist who is experienced in SAD and uses CBT to treat it. Once you get diagnosed insurance will cover all costs so don't worry about it

Exactly

Friends can't treat social anxiety, and certainly aspies on incel forums can't

Psychotherapists on the other side have been trained to treat these very cases. Don't give bullshit advice to someone who sounds suicidal when you don't have a clue what you are talking about

Thanks for the help bro

 

[Deleted member 10536]

They don't have to attack you physically. Only if they ridicule you, it's as bad for mental health.

It only gets worse if you have something to lose, like opinion, social status or money. Or most important: respect in the eyes of a foid.

Neither me or op has anything to lose though. As I said, people bully me/ridicule me nearly on a daily basis. So what do now? Do I rope and never leave my house? Or go to work as I do and live my life as I do?
Idk tbh, I just start applying psl shit to other people and start insulting them back and bringing out their insecurities for themselves at this point.
Easy to shit on balding/recessed/asymmetric/fat/collagenmined people and majority of nt normies are.

 

[Deleted member 10449]

Thanks for the help bro

Any question you have feel free to pm me

I can't promise to answer ASAP but I will do my best to answer everything

And please bro, don't rope. I know how you feel I was in absolute darkness. Even when I ll do LL I won't be so crippled as I was when I had SAD.

But it is in fact THE MOST HIGHLY TREATABLE DISORDER. There is ligjt at the end of the tunnel brother

 

[ropemaxx]

Any question you have feel free to pm me

I can't promise to answer ASAP but I will do my best to answer everything

And please bro, don't rope. I know how you feel I was in absolute darkness. Even when I ll do LL I won't be so crippled as I was when I had SAD.

But it is in fact THE MOST HIGHLY TREATABLE DISORDER. There is ligjt at the end of the tunnel brother

I will try that. Thanks man
Lifefuel that it worked for you..

 

[quakociaptockh]

Psychotherapists on the other side have been trained to treat these very cases. Don't give bullshit advice to someone who sounds suicidal when you don't have a clue what you are talking about

As someone who had to deal with therapists and suicidal thoughts, I will say again: psychotherapy is bullshit.

The whole "training" therapists receive is something akin to a telemarketer. They have a script with general rules: "if the patient says this, say that".

They are not honest. They don't tell the truth. They don't care. They don't want to help you. They don't listen. They don't know how to stop your suicidal thoughts, much less psychology in general answers that question at all.

Everything therapists say can be found on the first page of results of google. This was never about helping in the first place.

 

[homo_faber]

if you really want to change throw your computer and all devices away that give you access to the internet but you wont do that hmmm
why? because you dont dislike your current change as much as you might think. and if you cant throw your computer away you obviously wont kill yourself either

 

[Deleted member 10449]

As someone who had to deal with therapists and suicidal thoughts, I will say again: psychotherapy is bullshit.

The whole "training" therapists receive is something akin to a telemarketer. They have a script with general rules: "if the patient says this, say that".

They are not honest. They don't tell the truth. They don't care. They don't want to help you. They don't listen. They don't know how to stop your suicidal thoughts, much less psychology in general answers that question at all.

Everything therapists say can be found on the first page of results of google. This was never about helping in the first place.

You had shit psychotherapists, and it is absolutely believable, because most of them are crap

I treated my SAD alone with a CBT program made by a psychotherapist

Before that I saw 6 of them and they were all crap. After SAD when I went to a new psychotherapist for other issues, she was amazing. But it took 7 tries indeed

The problem is, it s very easy to get a degree in psychotherapy, but it is a science where you need to have a natural talent for it. Otherwise, they indeed follow scripts as you say

That's why I told him to find a psychotherapist EXPERIENCED IN SAD like the guy who designed my cbt program is, a program that saved my life, I was half year max. from roping

 

[Lasko123]

Can someone tell me how to cope. I cant take being an incel no more.
I havnt left the house in months. I have too much anxiety. I have nothing

Any advice? Is the rope the only thing i have left?

Deuteronomy 4
29 But from there you will seek the Lord your God and you will find him, if you search after him with all your heart and with all your soul.

Romans 15
13 May the God of hope fill you with all joy and peace in believing, so that by the power of the Holy Spirit you may abound in hope.

1 peter 5
7Casting all your anxieties on him, because he cares for you.

 

[quakociaptockh]

Before that I saw 6 of them and they were all crap. After SAD when I went to a new psychotherapist for other issues, she was amazing. But it took 7 tries indeed

I had an actual suicide attempt. In the beginning I was wondering why they don't want to talk about it, now I know that avoiding that topic is their general policy. They don't have anything to say anyway.

After 18 attempts (many were only 1 session) I finally know it's bullshit. Therapy is kinda like a prayer. It only works when you believe, and I don't.

 

[Deleted member 10449]

I had an actual suicide attempt. In the beginning I was wondering why they don't want to talk about it, now I know that avoiding that topic is their general policy. They don't have anything to say anyway.

After 18 attempts (many were only 1 session) I finally know it's bullshit. Therapy is kinda like a prayer. It only works when you believe, and I don't.

I am really sorry to hear this bro

It does work for a lot of people but not for everyone, and as you said, you need to believe in it

I hope you will find a solution for what tortures you

 

[WadlowMaxxing]

Porn. Eat. Drugs.

 

[quakociaptockh]

I hope you will find a solution for what tortures you

I've already found one and I said it here.

For SAD: react with anger instead of fear. That's the choice you have. Plus, you get some badboy points.

For depression: meds. They're not perfect, but they keep me alive.

 

[Deleted member 10449]

I've already found one and I said it here.

For SAD: react with anger instead of fear. That's the choice you have. Plus, you get some badboy points.

For depression: meds. They're not perfect, but they keep me alive.

Idk if SAD can be simplified to one reaction, that definitely didn't work for me

Antidepressants can be very good, I d stay away from SSRIs and go for Mirtazapine or Bupropion, no sexual side effects

 

[quakociaptockh]

Antidepressants can be very good, I d stay away from SSRIs and go for Mirtazapine or Bupropion, no sexual side effects

SSRIs are cope. I'm talking about dopamine agonists like cabergoline and l-dopa, naltrexone and testosterone. They keep you alive AND give you massive uncontrollable erections.

 

[quakociaptockh]

Also, may I ask, what was the reason for your social anxiety? Every mental issue has a root.

 

[Deleted member 10449]

Also, may I ask, what was the reason for your social anxiety? Every mental issue has a root.

I don't think there's a root, more like a combo of all factors

For me, generally being anxious, years of mockery for my looks, high pressure environment (I grew up around thugs and gangsters), lack of attention from girls, being very short, and traumatic events certainly contributed

 

[ropemaxx]

You had shit psychotherapists, and it is absolutely believable, because most of them are crap

I treated my SAD alone with a CBT program made by a psychotherapist

Before that I saw 6 of them and they were all crap. After SAD when I went to a new psychotherapist for other issues, she was amazing. But it took 7 tries indeed

The problem is, it s very easy to get a degree in psychotherapy, but it is a science where you need to have a natural talent for it. Otherwise, they indeed follow scripts as you say

That's why I told him to find a psychotherapist EXPERIENCED IN SAD like the guy who designed my cbt program is, a program that saved my life, I was half year max. from roping

Thats brutal in a way aswell. Because if you dont find a good therapist it could be over for you
Scary man

 

[Deleted member 10449]

Thats brutal in a way aswell. Because if you dont find a good therapist it could be over for you
Scary man

No bro as I said I did all alone

It took 2years of very agressive therapy, tremendous effort, blood and tears, and ofc a lot of courage and faith because I was alone in it

If I had a psychotherapist it would be half the effort and half the time

But even alone it is certainly doable

 

[ropemaxx]

No bro as I said I did all alone

It took 2years of very agressive therapy, tremendous effort, blood and tears, and ofc a lot of courage and faith because I was alone in it

If I had a psychotherapist it would be half the effort and half the time

But even alone it is certainly doable

Can you tell me more about the program?
So you are saying getting therapy is the best? Sorry man im confused

 

[Deleted member 8080]

Can someone tell me how to cope. I cant take being an incel no more.
I havnt left the house in months. I have too much anxiety. I have nothing

Any advice? Is the rope the only thing i have left?

How incel r u? Psl? Height? Race?

 

[ropemaxx]

How incel r u? Psl? Height? Race?

Something like 4/10
5ft10, white
small dick