How I greatly improved on my second cycle vs. my first

[clfuture]

My first cycle was so dogshit, I got every side effect in the book, hairloss, subhuman skin, looked so bloated and just gross looking. I still got jacked as fuck, I went from 175 to 210, I was eating a retarted amount of food and gained so much fat as well. This was the first cycle.

First cycle
500mg test for like 12 weeks
6 mgs of lgd first 8
This is such dogshit for a few reaoson, One test and lgd compete for AR receptors so I was just fucking myself over for un optimal gains. Also BLASTING IS FUCKING DUMB you are just fucking yourself in the future, lowering your myostatin base line in the future. Once I hopped off because of how subhuman I looked in under a month my bench went from 225x7 to 225x3. I also had to starve max to lose the excess fat. I cruised on trt for 5 months.

Second cycle
175 mg test (Trt)
13 mg of lgd (8 weeks)
People talk shit on lgd but it mogs hard, lgd and sarms in general are very selective and the bloat thing comes from people being stupid (like me) and running it with a shit ton of tests. A common sarm cope is the liver toxicity, read More plates more dates article is not a problem at reasonable doses. Combined with way less tests it was able to bind completely to the AR. I ended at 185 lbs at 6.2 leaner than I was when I took my first cycle.
Diet changes I have been eating zero fat for about 5 months, In my opinion the 9 calories are to costly to justify eating them, and then I can make more room for carbohydrates to maximize gymkelling.

What did I change:
Every single user should be God’s gifts to incels: Dut, trt, HGH, Reta, accutane. I started dutasteride and accutane and oral minoxidil all around the same time a little after my first cycle. My got hair and skin got raped on my 1st cycle, Through these I have recovered most of my hair, and my skin is drastically better. I'm starting HGH and Reta in 2 months. Im suppressing my sebaceous gland for the HGH so I don't get acne on it. I’ll make another thread on it and my experience,

 

[xzx_]

My first cycle was so dogshit, I got every side effect in the book, hairloss, subhuman skin, looked so bloated and just gross looking. I still got jacked as fuck, I went from 175 to 210, I was eating a retarted amount of food and gained so much fat as well. This was the first cycle.

First cycle
500mg test for like 12 weeks
6 mgs of lgd first 8
This is such dogshit for a few reaoson, One test and lgd compete for AR receptors so I was just fucking myself over for un optimal gains. Also BLASTING IS FUCKING DUMB you are just fucking yourself in the future, lowering your myostatin base line in the future. Once I hopped off because of how subhuman I looked in under a month my bench went from 225x7 to 225x3. I also had to starve max to lose the excess fat. I cruised on trt for 5 months.

Second cycle
175 mg test (Trt)
13 mg of lgd (8 weeks)
People talk shit on lgd but it mogs hard, lgd and sarms in general are very selective and the bloat thing comes from people being stupid (like me) and running it with a shit ton of tests. A common sarm cope is the liver toxicity, read More plates more dates article is not a problem at reasonable doses. Combined with way less tests it was able to bind completely to the AR. I ended at 185 lbs at 6.2 leaner than I was when I took my first cycle.
Diet changes I have been eating zero fat for about 5 months, In my opinion the 9 calories are to costly to justify eating them, and then I can make more room for carbohydrates to maximize gymkelling.

What did I change:
Every single user should be God’s gifts to incels: Dut, trt, HGH, Reta, accutane. I started dutasteride and accutane and oral minoxidil all around the same time a little after my first cycle. My got hair and skin got raped on my 1st cycle, Through these I have recovered most of my hair, and my skin is drastically better. I'm starting HGH and Reta in 2 months. Im suppressing my sebaceous gland for the HGH so I don't get acne on it. I’ll make another thread on it and my experience,

no shit u got all of the bad side affects u were running 500mg of test

 

[clfuture]

no shit u got all of the bad side affects u were running 500mg of test

any actual roidcel would laugh at 500 mgs of test as a cycle, people just handle gear differently then others

 

[Sadist]

no shit u got all of the bad side affects u were running 500mg of test

cope 500mg is law

 

[chadisbeingmade]

Your first cycle would have mogged the shit out of your second if you had:

• Not used LGD
• Used 2.5mg Dut
• RU for hair
• Topical AA for skin (RU can work)
• 2.5-7.5IU GH
• 20 weeks on

Your future cycles should just follow that with 250-1g Test. If you can’t grow on that, it’s a wrap.

GH bloat can be counted with Nebivolol, which you should use anyway, and Test bloat with Amiloride.

 

[clfuture]

Your first cycle would have mogged the shit out of your second if you had:

• Not used LGD
• Used 2.5mg Dut
• RU for hair
• Topical AA for skin (RU can work)
• 2.5-7.5IU GH
• 20 weeks on

Your future cycles should just follow that with 250-1g Test. If you can’t grow on that, it’s a wrap.

GH bloat can be counted with Nebivolol, which you should use anyway, and Test bloat with Amiloride.

my roid iq was quite low in my early posts forgive me,
question, post starve maxing I plan to go on a 20 week bulk, probably around November lets say around that time I am 10 percent bf, what would you say I reasonable amount of bf to gain in my calorie surplus, (granted I will be taking 500 test and 4 ius of gh). and how much of a calorie surplus should I eat in. I tell other users that I consider going from 10-13 or 14 an efficient and good 20 week bulk with PEDS

 

[chadisbeingmade]

my roid iq was quite low in my early posts forgive me,
question, post starve maxing I plan to go on a 20 week bulk, probably around November lets say around that time I am 10 percent bf, what would you say I reasonable amount of bf to gain in my calorie surplus, (granted I will be taking 500 test and 4 ius of gh). and how much of a calorie surplus should I eat in. I tell other users that I consider going from 10-13 or 14 an efficient and good 20 week bulk with PEDS

Ideally don’t go past the point where you lose visibility of your abs.

I would even push a 700+ surplus on GH. It's just that strong at inducing lypolisis where fat gain would be minimal. I wouldn’t exceed 1k surplus though.

 

[beckyslayer191]

My first cycle was so dogshit, I got every side effect in the book, hairloss, subhuman skin, looked so bloated and just gross looking. I still got jacked as fuck, I went from 175 to 210, I was eating a retarted amount of food and gained so much fat as well. This was the first cycle.

First cycle
500mg test for like 12 weeks
6 mgs of lgd first 8
This is such dogshit for a few reaoson, One test and lgd compete for AR receptors so I was just fucking myself over for un optimal gains. Also BLASTING IS FUCKING DUMB you are just fucking yourself in the future, lowering your myostatin base line in the future. Once I hopped off because of how subhuman I looked in under a month my bench went from 225x7 to 225x3. I also had to starve max to lose the excess fat. I cruised on trt for 5 months.

Second cycle
175 mg test (Trt)
13 mg of lgd (8 weeks)
People talk shit on lgd but it mogs hard, lgd and sarms in general are very selective and the bloat thing comes from people being stupid (like me) and running it with a shit ton of tests. A common sarm cope is the liver toxicity, read More plates more dates article is not a problem at reasonable doses. Combined with way less tests it was able to bind completely to the AR. I ended at 185 lbs at 6.2 leaner than I was when I took my first cycle.
Diet changes I have been eating zero fat for about 5 months, In my opinion the 9 calories are to costly to justify eating them, and then I can make more room for carbohydrates to maximize gymkelling.

What did I change:
Every single user should be God’s gifts to incels: Dut, trt, HGH, Reta, accutane. I started dutasteride and accutane and oral minoxidil all around the same time a little after my first cycle. My got hair and skin got raped on my 1st cycle, Through these I have recovered most of my hair, and my skin is drastically better. I'm starting HGH and Reta in 2 months. Im suppressing my sebaceous gland for the HGH so I don't get acne on it. I’ll make another thread on it and my experience,

Why was ur first cycle fucking 500 mg of test

 

[clfuture]

Why was ur first cycle fucking 500 mg of test

Wdym that is the most average first cycle of all time lol

 

[jeoyw9192]

My first cycle was so dogshit, I got every side effect in the book, hairloss, subhuman skin, looked so bloated and just gross looking. I still got jacked as fuck, I went from 175 to 210, I was eating a retarted amount of food and gained so much fat as well. This was the first cycle.

First cycle
500mg test for like 12 weeks
6 mgs of lgd first 8
This is such dogshit for a few reaoson, One test and lgd compete for AR receptors so I was just fucking myself over for un optimal gains. Also BLASTING IS FUCKING DUMB you are just fucking yourself in the future, lowering your myostatin base line in the future. Once I hopped off because of how subhuman I looked in under a month my bench went from 225x7 to 225x3. I also had to starve max to lose the excess fat. I cruised on trt for 5 months.

Second cycle
175 mg test (Trt)
13 mg of lgd (8 weeks)
People talk shit on lgd but it mogs hard, lgd and sarms in general are very selective and the bloat thing comes from people being stupid (like me) and running it with a shit ton of tests. A common sarm cope is the liver toxicity, read More plates more dates article is not a problem at reasonable doses. Combined with way less tests it was able to bind completely to the AR. I ended at 185 lbs at 6.2 leaner than I was when I took my first cycle.
Diet changes I have been eating zero fat for about 5 months, In my opinion the 9 calories are to costly to justify eating them, and then I can make more room for carbohydrates to maximize gymkelling.

What did I change:
Every single user should be God’s gifts to incels: Dut, trt, HGH, Reta, accutane. I started dutasteride and accutane and oral minoxidil all around the same time a little after my first cycle. My got hair and skin got raped on my 1st cycle, Through these I have recovered most of my hair, and my skin is drastically better. I'm starting HGH and Reta in 2 months. Im suppressing my sebaceous gland for the HGH so I don't get acne on it. I’ll make another thread on it and my experience,

mirin do tag me for any future updates

 

[beckyslayer191]

Wdym that is the most average first cycle of all time lol

Depends on age and for the first time directly 500 mg is unnecessary

 

[clfuture]

Depends on age and for the first time directly 500 mg is unnecessary

if you take 500 test with the right precautions like topical ru, 2.5 dut, anti-androgen for the skin, low doe accutane, then u will be fine.