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Yes, I grew from 5’6 to 6’3 in 1 year and a half. Ive decided not to gatekeep and release the “sauce” to those who are willing to do whatever to achieve results like this because i will be leaving BP and everything related to that behind soon so why not do the community a favour.
Before you guys go thrashing in my comments, to clarify, my parents are 5’6 and 5’3 so there weren't any “puberty” done through this process.
I hit puberty at 12 and then reached 5'6 around 14 then stayed the same till 16, I was so obsessed with my height I dug deep into research and found that it was possible to grow if your plates are open through several mechanisms and decided to test them, I got a scan and found out that surprisingly my plates were still open at mid 16, I got really excited I did these things I listed below, it took a while an whole year and a half, but I grew 9 inches in total with bare minimal side effects like bloating.
The truth is we don't have time, we don't know when our plates will close, it's influenced by complicated factors like pathway crosstalks, growth factors, hormones especially estrogen, testosterone and thyroid, transcription factors, so basically you have to START ASAP, to yield maximum results, so I highly recommend to not waste any time like I did, you guys have all the knowledge after reading this but you need to take action NOW.
Disclaimer: In this document, i wont be promoting any softmaxxing or telling you to do maasai jumps or stretches to grow taller and dont bother to waste your time and efforts if ur plates are closed. If you were looking for softmaxxing tips, this is not the guide for you, however if you’re truly committed, this is the guide. But ill still be adding some basics tips you can do to maintain a safe cycle and as “fuel” for optimal results.
It will be long so sit tight.
This is planned to be ran for an year and a half, but you can stop it whenever you are happy with the height gained from it.
HGH - 4 IUs ED - subq on belly fat - Yes, this should be the base of every stack (Look below were I debunk myths if you are scared), HGH works through conversion of IGF-1 which helps you basically grow through several mechanisms, I injected around 20 minutes before sleeping, I had almost no side effects other than crazy bone pains when I grow, slight water retention.
Most optimal dose would be 0.125 IU/KG but since I was kinda broke after all these compounds I stuck with 4 IUs and still grew.
Letrozole - 0.3mg EOD - oral - Estrogen is one of the primary factors for growth plate closure, by inhibiting an enzyme called Aromatase using Letrazole you can delay it, I believe 0.625mg to be the most optimal dose, you can take and stay healthy.I take this empty stomach first thing in the morning.You need to use a pill splitter to split as it comes in 2.5mg tablets you need to split it in 4 pieces and take one.
PEG-MGF - 200 mcg 3x a week - subq near thigh - 4 weeks on 2 weeks off - This is massively gatekept, everyone decides not to speak about this peptide simply because of how good it is, MGF is literally involved in ECM remodeling, collagen synthesis, structural integrity and PI3K- Akt pathway, PEG-MGF even increases local IGF-1 expression which is like the most important thing for longitudinal bone growth. I could keep going on about this peptide but basically this is a must add.I take this around 6 PM, you can also take this post workout if you go to gym or workout.
PS:If you can afford Oral BPC157 on top of this all I'd do it, just do 1 month on 1 month off at 250mcg a day, it literally increases GH and IGF1 receptors which is really good, injectable is even better do similar dose but like 3x a week, 1 month on 1 month off, subq near knee around lower thighs.
Kartogenin - 100mg ED - atleast 5 days at the end of each month and more at last few months
- oral - KGN is a small molecule originally discovered for its ability to promote the differentiation of mesenchymal stem cells, this does so much I could probably rank this as one of the most important compounds, it does so much like expanding the reserve and proliferative zones of the growth plate, increase the number of functional chondrocytes available for the formation of cartilage scaffolds, maintenance of proper chondrocyte zones AND SO MUCH MORE, don't worry if you can't understand any of these basically more chondrocytes = More cartilage template for bone elongation.This gave me zero side effects but it however was a bit expensive.I take this oral along with letrazole, I know this is an expensive compound but it's fine if you can't get it, this made me broke asf, but this is very potent, cartalax can act as a milder replacement.
Note: You can orally dose bioregulators it is just slightly less effective and I highly recommend injectable Epitalon.
Vesugen - 5mg - 20 days once every 3 months - subq anywhere - This is one of the most gatekept things ever, this basically 3x's your body's stem cells, works in synergy with Kartogenin as this increases MSCs while that encourages conversion of MSCs to chondrocyes, this is an bioregulator, this has 0 side effects, you have to run it for like only 20 days every 3 months, even oral pills are fine due to its high bioavailability.I inject this morning.
Epitalon - 10mg - 10 days once every 3 months - subq anywhere - This is another bioregulator with 0 side effects, note that its also impossible to overdose on bioregulators these are extremely safe, this increases telomerase activity, to extend the lifespan of the chondrocytes, helps in anti-aging, bone growth through several mechanisms, anti-cancer, anti-tumour, the benefits goes on...I inject this in the morning.
Cartalax - 5mg - 5-10 days every month or every 3 months - subq anywhere - This is the final bioregulator we will be using, this has several benefits and some similar to Kartogenin, it supports the regeneration of cartilage cells and extracellular matrix, integrity of ECM, MSCs to chondrocyte conversion, basically this is elite for bone growth.I inject this morning.
Tadalafil - 20mg ED- 4 weeks on 2 weeks off- Y'all thought this was for your penis? No, It helps with nutrient delivery to growth plates and most importantly cAMP modulation which helps in increasing you IGF1 and HGH receptor sensetivity by a lot.I take this before sleep to pulse it with HGH.
Proviron - 25mg ED - last 2 months - This is the MILDEST Oral steroid, this will give you 0 supression and 0 side effects, its literally used to treat erectile dysfunction and low sperm count, this will increase androgenic activity and squeeze your final few inches at the end of the cycle.I take it morning.
Megadosing Melatonin - 100mg ED - This is the single best thing, this will singlehandedly prevent any side effects and keep you healthy, and no 100mg won't cause you any sides it'll do the opposite and help you a lot.It is a a direct free radical scavenger, an indirect antioxidant via enzyme upregulation, an epigenetic modulator, an mitochondrial protector, enhances base excision repair efficiency, stimulates ATM/ATR checkpoint activation, maintains global DNA methylation patterns, tumor suppression, normalizes mTOR signaling, inhibits Warburg effect via HIF-1α suppression, Anti-Carcinogenic Properties, Genoprotective effects...I could add like 50 more, I repeat if you use this stack, this is a must add, this helps A LOT.I take it 30 minutes before I sleep.
Myth busting misleading rumours about the consequences of exogenous compounds.
MYTH 1: "HGH causes cancer" Correlation ≠ Causation. The panic comes from acromegaly patients (who have excessive GH due to pituitary tumors) showing slightly elevated cancer risks. But these cases involve chronic, unregulated overproduction, not medically administered doses, to replicate this you'd have to inject 50 IUs of HGH like 2 times a day LOL, the only way to get cancer from HGH is either by having pre-existing cancer cells or reaching acromegaly which I just explained why it's not possible. https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/ abs/pii/S1096637400901710
“There is no conclusive evidence that GH therapy increases cancer incidence beyond background population risk.”
MYTH 2: "HGH causes tumors" Not unless you already had one or are genetically predisposed. https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S1096637407001529
“There is no significant increase in de novo tumor development in GH-treated children.”
MYTH 3: "HGH causes diabetes" Not in therapeutic doses. And actually, it can improve insulin sensitivity in GH-deficient people, and there are people who anecdotally cured diabetes using HGH, as stated already you need to have genetic diabetes or abuse HGH at 20-40IUs to end up diabetic. https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0889852918302007 “GH replacement improves glucose metabolism in GH-deficient adults and children.”
MYTH 4: "HGH is dangerous—it’s only for severe cases" HGH is FDA-approved even for idiopathic short stature (ISS) and used in healthy children. ISS are children who are basically like us, healthy but short for no reason, no biological reason, its FDA approved from 4 years old even used in prepubertal childrens. https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/ S1096637407001529 “Long-term GH therapy in ISS children is safe, with no elevated cancer, diabetes, or mortality risk.”
MYTH 5: "If you don’t have GH deficiency, HGH won’t make you grow even if plates are open" This is the dumbest shit I've heard LOL, Tell that to people with gigantism who had normal GH before their tumors , if your growth plates are open, and you’re GH-sensitive, exogenous GH can absolutely accelerate linear growth, even without classic “deficiency.” Example: Idiopathic Tall Stature and Gigantism Gigantism is caused by excess GH before epiphyseal closure.
These people didn’t have GH “deficiency”—they had excess. And yes, they grew. A lot. https:// www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/B9780128226520000171 “Growth continues as long as epiphyseal plates remain active and GH/IGF axis is functioning.”
Here’s a quick guide if you are scared of getting caught: There’s four ways to go about it you can camp in front of your house on the day you are supposed to receive your order, you can order it to that chill friends house, you can ask them to ask the shipping company to leave the order in specific places like the back of your house and what I do is I put in “GENERAL DELIVERY” after giving only my city, postal code and name, they will ship it to your nearest post office then you can collect it from them effortlessly as an minor without an ID.As for hiding it you can be very creative like in the pockets of your jacket etc, would be easier if you have chill parents who understand you.
REMINDER: This is not medical advice. Everything shared here is based on personal experience and should be approached with your own research and discretion. Do this at your own risk, any consequences of your doings is not of my matter
If you're putting things together, this might save you some time, I've attached my source below.
This page has most of the compounds I personally use or keep on hand. You’re always free to use your own sources, this is the one I’ve used. That said, everything I’ve picked up here has been pharma grade and checked out legit. Prices are relatively affordable, and shipping’s been solid, haven’t been hindered by customs so far. I advise yall to bulk buy to take advantage of their 5% discount for orders above 1000$ and 10% above 1500 and discount by no of kits.
With that said, this is more or less everything ive done and taken an advantage off. Nothing here is random or thrown in just to fill space. Its been part of my own routine at some point, whether for recovery, performance or overall progression, keep in mind that you need to have elite nutrition and sleep if it wasn't already obvious. Take from it what you will.
Feel free to drop your questions below.
Before you guys go thrashing in my comments, to clarify, my parents are 5’6 and 5’3 so there weren't any “puberty” done through this process.
I hit puberty at 12 and then reached 5'6 around 14 then stayed the same till 16, I was so obsessed with my height I dug deep into research and found that it was possible to grow if your plates are open through several mechanisms and decided to test them, I got a scan and found out that surprisingly my plates were still open at mid 16, I got really excited I did these things I listed below, it took a while an whole year and a half, but I grew 9 inches in total with bare minimal side effects like bloating.
The truth is we don't have time, we don't know when our plates will close, it's influenced by complicated factors like pathway crosstalks, growth factors, hormones especially estrogen, testosterone and thyroid, transcription factors, so basically you have to START ASAP, to yield maximum results, so I highly recommend to not waste any time like I did, you guys have all the knowledge after reading this but you need to take action NOW.
Disclaimer: In this document, i wont be promoting any softmaxxing or telling you to do maasai jumps or stretches to grow taller and dont bother to waste your time and efforts if ur plates are closed. If you were looking for softmaxxing tips, this is not the guide for you, however if you’re truly committed, this is the guide. But ill still be adding some basics tips you can do to maintain a safe cycle and as “fuel” for optimal results.
It will be long so sit tight.
This is planned to be ran for an year and a half, but you can stop it whenever you are happy with the height gained from it.
HGH - 4 IUs ED - subq on belly fat - Yes, this should be the base of every stack (Look below were I debunk myths if you are scared), HGH works through conversion of IGF-1 which helps you basically grow through several mechanisms, I injected around 20 minutes before sleeping, I had almost no side effects other than crazy bone pains when I grow, slight water retention.
Most optimal dose would be 0.125 IU/KG but since I was kinda broke after all these compounds I stuck with 4 IUs and still grew.
Letrozole - 0.3mg EOD - oral - Estrogen is one of the primary factors for growth plate closure, by inhibiting an enzyme called Aromatase using Letrazole you can delay it, I believe 0.625mg to be the most optimal dose, you can take and stay healthy.I take this empty stomach first thing in the morning.You need to use a pill splitter to split as it comes in 2.5mg tablets you need to split it in 4 pieces and take one.
PEG-MGF - 200 mcg 3x a week - subq near thigh - 4 weeks on 2 weeks off - This is massively gatekept, everyone decides not to speak about this peptide simply because of how good it is, MGF is literally involved in ECM remodeling, collagen synthesis, structural integrity and PI3K- Akt pathway, PEG-MGF even increases local IGF-1 expression which is like the most important thing for longitudinal bone growth. I could keep going on about this peptide but basically this is a must add.I take this around 6 PM, you can also take this post workout if you go to gym or workout.
PS:If you can afford Oral BPC157 on top of this all I'd do it, just do 1 month on 1 month off at 250mcg a day, it literally increases GH and IGF1 receptors which is really good, injectable is even better do similar dose but like 3x a week, 1 month on 1 month off, subq near knee around lower thighs.
Kartogenin - 100mg ED - atleast 5 days at the end of each month and more at last few months
- oral - KGN is a small molecule originally discovered for its ability to promote the differentiation of mesenchymal stem cells, this does so much I could probably rank this as one of the most important compounds, it does so much like expanding the reserve and proliferative zones of the growth plate, increase the number of functional chondrocytes available for the formation of cartilage scaffolds, maintenance of proper chondrocyte zones AND SO MUCH MORE, don't worry if you can't understand any of these basically more chondrocytes = More cartilage template for bone elongation.This gave me zero side effects but it however was a bit expensive.I take this oral along with letrazole, I know this is an expensive compound but it's fine if you can't get it, this made me broke asf, but this is very potent, cartalax can act as a milder replacement.
Note: You can orally dose bioregulators it is just slightly less effective and I highly recommend injectable Epitalon.
Vesugen - 5mg - 20 days once every 3 months - subq anywhere - This is one of the most gatekept things ever, this basically 3x's your body's stem cells, works in synergy with Kartogenin as this increases MSCs while that encourages conversion of MSCs to chondrocyes, this is an bioregulator, this has 0 side effects, you have to run it for like only 20 days every 3 months, even oral pills are fine due to its high bioavailability.I inject this morning.
Epitalon - 10mg - 10 days once every 3 months - subq anywhere - This is another bioregulator with 0 side effects, note that its also impossible to overdose on bioregulators these are extremely safe, this increases telomerase activity, to extend the lifespan of the chondrocytes, helps in anti-aging, bone growth through several mechanisms, anti-cancer, anti-tumour, the benefits goes on...I inject this in the morning.
Cartalax - 5mg - 5-10 days every month or every 3 months - subq anywhere - This is the final bioregulator we will be using, this has several benefits and some similar to Kartogenin, it supports the regeneration of cartilage cells and extracellular matrix, integrity of ECM, MSCs to chondrocyte conversion, basically this is elite for bone growth.I inject this morning.
Tadalafil - 20mg ED- 4 weeks on 2 weeks off- Y'all thought this was for your penis? No, It helps with nutrient delivery to growth plates and most importantly cAMP modulation which helps in increasing you IGF1 and HGH receptor sensetivity by a lot.I take this before sleep to pulse it with HGH.
Proviron - 25mg ED - last 2 months - This is the MILDEST Oral steroid, this will give you 0 supression and 0 side effects, its literally used to treat erectile dysfunction and low sperm count, this will increase androgenic activity and squeeze your final few inches at the end of the cycle.I take it morning.
Megadosing Melatonin - 100mg ED - This is the single best thing, this will singlehandedly prevent any side effects and keep you healthy, and no 100mg won't cause you any sides it'll do the opposite and help you a lot.It is a a direct free radical scavenger, an indirect antioxidant via enzyme upregulation, an epigenetic modulator, an mitochondrial protector, enhances base excision repair efficiency, stimulates ATM/ATR checkpoint activation, maintains global DNA methylation patterns, tumor suppression, normalizes mTOR signaling, inhibits Warburg effect via HIF-1α suppression, Anti-Carcinogenic Properties, Genoprotective effects...I could add like 50 more, I repeat if you use this stack, this is a must add, this helps A LOT.I take it 30 minutes before I sleep.
Myth busting misleading rumours about the consequences of exogenous compounds.
MYTH 1: "HGH causes cancer" Correlation ≠ Causation. The panic comes from acromegaly patients (who have excessive GH due to pituitary tumors) showing slightly elevated cancer risks. But these cases involve chronic, unregulated overproduction, not medically administered doses, to replicate this you'd have to inject 50 IUs of HGH like 2 times a day LOL, the only way to get cancer from HGH is either by having pre-existing cancer cells or reaching acromegaly which I just explained why it's not possible. https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/ abs/pii/S1096637400901710
“There is no conclusive evidence that GH therapy increases cancer incidence beyond background population risk.”
MYTH 2: "HGH causes tumors" Not unless you already had one or are genetically predisposed. https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S1096637407001529
“There is no significant increase in de novo tumor development in GH-treated children.”
MYTH 3: "HGH causes diabetes" Not in therapeutic doses. And actually, it can improve insulin sensitivity in GH-deficient people, and there are people who anecdotally cured diabetes using HGH, as stated already you need to have genetic diabetes or abuse HGH at 20-40IUs to end up diabetic. https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0889852918302007 “GH replacement improves glucose metabolism in GH-deficient adults and children.”
MYTH 4: "HGH is dangerous—it’s only for severe cases" HGH is FDA-approved even for idiopathic short stature (ISS) and used in healthy children. ISS are children who are basically like us, healthy but short for no reason, no biological reason, its FDA approved from 4 years old even used in prepubertal childrens. https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/ S1096637407001529 “Long-term GH therapy in ISS children is safe, with no elevated cancer, diabetes, or mortality risk.”
MYTH 5: "If you don’t have GH deficiency, HGH won’t make you grow even if plates are open" This is the dumbest shit I've heard LOL, Tell that to people with gigantism who had normal GH before their tumors , if your growth plates are open, and you’re GH-sensitive, exogenous GH can absolutely accelerate linear growth, even without classic “deficiency.” Example: Idiopathic Tall Stature and Gigantism Gigantism is caused by excess GH before epiphyseal closure.
These people didn’t have GH “deficiency”—they had excess. And yes, they grew. A lot. https:// www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/B9780128226520000171 “Growth continues as long as epiphyseal plates remain active and GH/IGF axis is functioning.”
Here’s a quick guide if you are scared of getting caught: There’s four ways to go about it you can camp in front of your house on the day you are supposed to receive your order, you can order it to that chill friends house, you can ask them to ask the shipping company to leave the order in specific places like the back of your house and what I do is I put in “GENERAL DELIVERY” after giving only my city, postal code and name, they will ship it to your nearest post office then you can collect it from them effortlessly as an minor without an ID.As for hiding it you can be very creative like in the pockets of your jacket etc, would be easier if you have chill parents who understand you.
REMINDER: This is not medical advice. Everything shared here is based on personal experience and should be approached with your own research and discretion. Do this at your own risk, any consequences of your doings is not of my matter
If you're putting things together, this might save you some time, I've attached my source below.
This page has most of the compounds I personally use or keep on hand. You’re always free to use your own sources, this is the one I’ve used. That said, everything I’ve picked up here has been pharma grade and checked out legit. Prices are relatively affordable, and shipping’s been solid, haven’t been hindered by customs so far. I advise yall to bulk buy to take advantage of their 5% discount for orders above 1000$ and 10% above 1500 and discount by no of kits.
With that said, this is more or less everything ive done and taken an advantage off. Nothing here is random or thrown in just to fill space. Its been part of my own routine at some point, whether for recovery, performance or overall progression, keep in mind that you need to have elite nutrition and sleep if it wasn't already obvious. Take from it what you will.
Feel free to drop your questions below.
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