How important is pfl?

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Does not seem that important tbh. Maybe if incel tier then yeah, but 28mm vs 38mm doesn't make much of a difference.

Prove me wrong with pics or whatever
 
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what’s it stand for
 
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It's one of the key elements that makes a good eye area good
 
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It's one of the key elements that makes a good eye area good
Mine is good but I have really bad eye support and exposure.
 
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I just measured mine. I have 35mm. Apparently 36mm is ideal.
Mine is about 37mm, but I think I measured wrong. I always was described as having big eyes by my parents and relatives due to height of eyes as well.
 
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Slayerrrrrr
Nah my eye area is shit tier tbh. Only good thing is eye shape and color ig.
Mine is about 37mm, but I think I measured wrong. I always was described as having big eyes by my parents and relatives due to height of eyes as well.
Height can be fixed via surgery, no? Lower eyelid reaction can help.
 
Nah my eyes are shit tier tbh
Mine are worse lol. PFL only matters if your eyes don't suck I think. Or maybe my pfl made by upper eylid exposure less noticable idk
 
It's the difference from a multi-orgasmic look to a look that seems the results of a multigenerational hardcore incest practice.

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I’d say having vertically short eyes are more important
 
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i'll mog that's all i know, i need to ascend
 
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I have 38mm pfl, still 3/10
 
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Lifefuel. Just remeasured mine and it’s 32-33mm. Gandymaxx
I remeasured mine as well and it's aboout 32mm. My only good feature was offset by no orbital support and eyelid exposure:feelswhy:
 
its important af, if you have a good pfl and good eye area overall (hooding, orbital rims) then you get those slayer tier light yagami eyes

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I PFL mog you
Make sure you didn't measure your eyelid and just your eye. I think above 35mm is where it starts to look wierd unless you have a wide skull
 
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Make sure you didn't measure your eyelid and just your eye. I think above 35mm is where it starts to look wierd unless you have a wide skull

I skull mog you.
 
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That's it? I thought his eyes look wide.
Vertically narrow with a good medial canthus. That's why, not absolute length.
 
Near pointless measurement


Chico has average 29 mm PFL

This is stupid. A) it’s impossible for you to know this & B) a pfl of 29 would look comical on such a big skull, he’d look like Elijah wood lmfao.

Horizontally long eyes are such a good trait to have. OP, to clear things up a little, a good PFL is not going to carry your eye area by itself, but it means you have much more potential to improve it.

Again let me reiterate, a low pfl is over tier, straight up. Especially if coupled with rn other extremes of ipd, very low & very high
Vertically narrow with a good medial canthus. That's why, not absolute length.

Lol medial canthus is obviously included in the measurement.
 
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This is stupid. A) it’s impossible for you to know this & B) a pfl of 29 would look comical on such a big skull, he’d look like Elijah wood lmfao.
A) We do know this, it's been measured multiple times across multiple pictures and he consistently comes out at 29 mm.

B) 29 mm is not small, it's dead average. His skull is not big, he has a standard ~14 cm bizygomatic.

Lol medial canthus is obviously included in the measurement.
Everyone knows this
 
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A) We do know this, it's been measured multiple times across multiple pictures and he consistently comes out at 29 mm.

B) 29 mm is not small, it's dead average. His skull is not big, he has a standard ~14 cm bizygomatic.


Everyone knows this


You’re wrong about his pfl

I see the point you’re making. Absolute length is less important than relative length & shape, I agree.
With that in mind I don’t really see how that led you to say PFL is a near useless measurement. It’s not, at all.
 
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You’re wrong about his pfl
No, I'm not. @BeautifulBones made up bullshit estimates as to what the ideal PFL was based on an incorrect set of averages.


The average is ~29 mm for both eyes, as per FaceBase.

And we know that Chico's is 29 mm because you can take any facial measurement using the diameter of the iris:


@FaceandHFD did it in this thread to to take the midface measurements of the trio:


And he did it again here to find out the PFL measurements of some people:


At first I disputed it also as you'll see in the thread, but if you actually take the measurements properly you'll see that he's right.

Chico's PFL is ~29 mm, and his bizygomatic is only slightly above average at ~14 cm. He does not have a big skull, and his eyes look wide because of his good undereye support and fat pad hooding, which someone like Elijah Wood hasn't got.

Keep in mind that Gandy's measurement is ~32.5 mm. @BeautifulBones called the ideal above 36 mm. Imagine how ludicrous that would look. As per FaceBase's stats, 37 mm is about four standard deviations above average. That's 1 in 16,000.

I see the point you’re making. Absolute length is less important than relative length & shape, I agree.
Naturally.

With that in mind I don’t really see how that led you to say PFL is a near useless measurement.
Having a very low PFL is a flaw, but that's true for just about everything when you're in the absolute bottom percentiles. Having a higher than average PFL is worth pretty much nothing on it's own.
 
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No, I'm not. @BeautifulBones made up bullshit estimates as to what the ideal PFL was based on an incorrect set of averages.


The average is ~29 mm for both eyes, as per FaceBase.

And we know that Chico's is 29 mm because you can take any facial measurement using the diameter of the iris:


@FaceandHFD did it in this thread to to take the midface measurements of the trio:


And he did it again here to find out the PFL measurements of some people:


At first I disputed it also as you'll see in the thread, but if you actually take the measurements properly you'll see that he's right.

Chico's PFL is ~29 mm, and his bizygomatic is only slightly above average at ~14 cm. He does not have a big skull, and his eyes look wide because of his good undereye support and fat pad hooding, which someone like Elijah Wood hasn't got.

Keep in mind that Gandy's measurement is ~32.5 mm. @BeautifulBones called the ideal above 36 mm. Imagine how ludicrous that would look. As per FaceBase's stats, 37 mm is about four standard deviations above average. That's 1 in 16,000.


Naturally.


Having a very low PFL is a flaw, but that's true for just about everything when you're in the absolute bottom percentiles. Having a higher than average PFL is worth pretty much nothing on it's own.

High effort, thanks
 
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just measured mine around 30mm.
MSE could increase it by 2mm to gandy tier
 
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just measured mine around 30mm.
MSE could increase it by 2mm to gandy tier
Honestly shape > PFL. Most Indians have big orbitals but never get complicated for their shit eye areas
 
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Does not seem that important tbh. Maybe if incel tier then yeah, but 28mm vs 38mm doesn't make much of a difference.

Prove me wrong with pics or whatever
Does not seem that important tbh. Maybe if incel tier then yeah, but 28mm vs 38mm doesn't make much of a difference.

Prove me wrong with pics or whatever
Major cope
 
How to get a better PFL?

MSE?

I just measured mine and got 3 and a half cm. That's about 35mm. I have to be measuring wrong. Tips on how to measure?
 

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