How legit is over head press as a movement

[autistic_tendencies]

Gymcels only

 

[socialcel]

It will train your shoulders, so pretty legit tbh

 

[TechnoBoss]

Very legit for getting strong deltoids. I don't know a close IRL equivalent besides maybe pressing a wheelbarrow overhead with like hay in it or something if you work on like a farm.

 

[2ndChico]

Shit for shoulders cuz you put a ton of stress on them also there is better and safer alternatives like lateral raises. You can do this exercise if you got good stability and spoter

 

[NorwoodAscender]

rlly good for front delts

 

[Gaygymmaxx]

Idk my shoulders are cooked I can't get no good workout

 

[roidheadjockey]

very legit. chad tier. better if you could do seated dumbbell shoulder presses tho.

 

[cytoplasm]

I dont think they are necessary for aesthetics

 

[KaisenMaxxer]

there is better and safer alternatives like lateral raises.

It's not an alternative, but a complementary movement, they don't train the same pattern or deltoid head

You can do this exercise if you got good stability and spoter

no need for a spotter, and you should do it to improve stability and core strength

 

[exo]

Shit movement, hurt my shoulders when i did it

 

[sub5outsider]

favourite movement for me best way to build your shoulders also triceps

 

[MaghrebGator]

One of the best exercises out there

 

[2ndChico]

It's not an alternative, but a complementary movement, they don't train the same pattern or deltoid head

no need for a spotter, and you should do it to improve stability and core strength

Valid points, but you shouldn't train front delts cuz they are used in almost all presses

 

[menas]

Gymcels only

Very, i had very good results still dont do more than 1 press per workout

 

[menas]

Very, i had very good results still dont do more than 1 press per workout

Do them sitting

 

[KaisenMaxxer]

Valid points, but you shouldn't train front delts cuz they are used in almost all presses

Depens on you press volume & variant choices, imo bench, OHP, incline smith machine press and dips is all you need. if you want big shoulder, you need a variant of OHP (barbell, dumbbell or machine if you're gay) else you medial head will looked over-developped and unbalanced (happened for me after gymbro (who overhead pressed) told me it wasn't necessary and a year later I end up having small front shoulders)

 

[KaisenMaxxer]

Do them sitting

why not standing? sure you will need more stabilty from your core but no point training if you have 0 core strength in the end

 

[menas]

why not standing? sure you will need more stabilty from your core but no point training if you have 0 core strength in the end

Nigga overhead press is for shoulders not core and depends but it feels better sitting + i do it at smith machine so i just fucking push the bar and its easier that way to use my full strenght at it

 

[KaisenMaxxer]

Nigga overhead press is for shoulders not core and depends but it feels better sitting + i do it at smith machine so i just fucking push the bar and its easier that way to use my full strenght at it

what do you do for core training then ?

 

[autistic_tendencies]

Depens on you press volume & variant choices, imo bench, OHP, incline smith machine press and dips is all you need. if you want big shoulder, you need a variant of OHP (barbell, dumbbell or machine if you're gay) else you medial head will looked over-developped and unbalanced (happened for me after gymbro (who overhead pressed) told me it wasn't necessary and a year later I end up having small front shoulders)

Haha he was trying to stifle the competition

 

[menas]

Nigga overhead press is for shoulders not core and depends but it feels better sitting + i do it at smith machine so i just fucking push the bar and its easier that way to use my full strenght at it

Btw @autistic_tendencies dont do full rom at overhead press it will be more likely you will uze momentum if you go low

 

[<6PSLcel]

good movement i like it a lot, i find that my strength quickly deteriorates on it, if i dont do it for even a week ill go from 60kg x 8 x 5 to only like 50 x 10 x 5

 

[menas]

what do you do for core training then ?

Cable crushes leg raises atleast those are meant for the core

 

[KaisenMaxxer]

Haha he was trying to stifle the competition

I don't even think so, he was honestly retarded

 

[menas]

good movement i like it a lot, i find that my strength quickly deteriorates on it, if i dont do it for even a week ill go from 60kg x 8 x 5 to only like 50 x 10 x 5

since when do you lift good stats imo

 

[alurmo]

Shit movement, hurt my shoulders when i did it

bad form dummy

 

[<6PSLcel]

since when do you lift good stats imo

shit stats

 

[Orc]

it's my main shoulder movement, I do 10 sets in a row.

 

[Manletmachine]

You can’t get away with only doing lateral raises tbh. You need some sort of overhead press, whether it’s with dumbbells or barbell

 

[butterworld]

My favorite shoulder workout tbh after lateral raises. Seated dumbbell shoulder press mogs

 

[vermillioncorefan]

Gymcels only

overhead press is basically only for basketball players it doesn’t do much else tho

 

[TechnoBoss]

Seated (or Standing) Barbell Shoulder/Overhead Press: 3x5
Incline Barbell Bench Press: 3x5
Dumbbell Side Lateral Raise: 3x10-12
Rope Pushdowns (circuit machine): 3x10-12
Overhead Dumbbell Extension or similar triceps exercise: 3x10-12
Shrugs(circuit machine or dumbbells): 3x10-12
Face Pulls 3x10-12
Front lateral raises 3x10-12

Before anyone starts barking, I'm not recommending doing all this volume on one day. This is just the main exercises I did for shoulders.

I dont think they are necessary for aesthetics

You're right they aren't but entirely necessary for strength and I think with deltoids in particular, strength is a prerequisite for having big delts. Some people have naturally strong shoulders and those people naturally get bigger shoulders as a result. Maybe it's a chicken/egg scenario here. Isolations obviously mog for aesthetics.

Nigga overhead press is for shoulders not core and depends but it feels better sitting + i do it at smith machine so i just fucking push the bar and its easier that way to use my full strenght at it

You need core strength worked at the same time. You're supposed to be bracing your core when you do the movement. I feel generally weaker sitting down when doing it so I'm not training it as hard when I do sitting OHP (and before you ask no I was never using leg drive only pure pressing power no leg drive whatsoever unless it was literally the last set and I was doing my last reps of it and I was giving it my all)

 

[menas]

shit stats

i lift like for 1.5 years and i can lift 50x8 for max