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u overestimate power of 1 cycle.5 years or 1 cycle
3-4 years natty with average genetics and smart training plan, nutrition.
What will a smart training plan look like if a guy is skinny but with great muscle definitionu overestimate power of 1 cycle.
3-4 years natty with average genetics and smart training plan, nutrition.
2 years if u are elite mesomorph with good training plan
Won’t help without face and height
3-4 years with the good genes, training, diet and everything