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crazy14-15k euros . ~30k euros if with Giant (custom plates and a bunch of implants)
Bimax w/ giant might be less, but I’d ask to be sure. It’ll cost me around ~28-30k euros since I’m getting full periorbital implants/jaw angles + bi/trimax.crazy
so who operates you when going w giants?Bimax w/ giant might be less, but I’d ask to be sure. It’ll cost me around ~28-30k euros since I’m getting full periorbital implants/jaw angles + bi/trimax.
Overall it’s a pretty affordable ascension. It also includes all fees + accommodations for 2 weeks. Raffaini charges 30k euros for Bimax alone.crazy
Celal. @RealSurgerymax (Giant) will be in the operating room for supervision.so who operates you when going w giants?
raffaini is basically guarantted ascencion, celal botched lots of patients.Overall it’s a pretty affordable ascension. It also includes all fees + accommodations for 2 weeks. Raffaini charges 30k euros for Bimax alone.
You won’t get botched since Giant is there with you. Unlikely you’ll get botched if you go to Celal alone too, but best to go with Giant for best resultsraffaini is basically guarantted ascencion, celal botched lots of patients.
14-15k euros . ~30k euros if with Giant (custom plates)
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Bimax w/ giant might be less, but I’d ask to be sure. It’ll cost me around ~28-30k euros since I’m getting full periorbital implants/jaw angles + bi/trimax.
Is getting the surgery done by another surgeon (in istanbul aswell) but with your plan is a possibility? Ofc if the surgeon would be willing to collab.Custom guides and plates for bimax adds about 6k.
Usually we are also combining with implants.
Remember Supras and Infraorbital malars alone will be about $25-30k in EU.
So when you combine, it sounds a lot more reasonable.
Just celal or Ercin . Im tired of requests to work with new surgeons all the time it really increases risk of botch. I like to stay with the ones I have close connection with.Is getting the surgery done by another surgeon (in istanbul aswell) but with your plan is a possibility? Ofc if the surgeon would be willing to collab.
What are you thoughts on Dr Safi or Sailer? I’ve heard that you are not a fan of he’s implants. Do you think he is a competent bimax surgeon though?Just celal or Ercin . Im tired of requests to work with new surgeons all the time it really increases risk of botch. I like to stay with the ones I have close connection with.
Of course I’m not they a made by a beginner who started yesterday with a background as a blender artist trying to imitate me yet many still have extreme technical problems… so yea…What are you thoughts on Dr Safi or Sailer? I’ve heard that you are not a fan of he’s implants. Do you think he is a competent bimax surgeon though?
I did consult Pagnoni but he doesn’t offer jaw angle implants at the same time as bimax unlike Sailer or Safi. I’m looking to get Trimax + infras + jaw angles in one go so don’t have to worry about surgeries later on.Of course I’m not they a made by a beginner who started yesterday with a background as a blender artist trying to imitate me yet many still have extreme technical problems… so yea…
I have no idea about his abilities as a surgeon but I think sailer is old. Obviously I respect sailer a lot.
If staying in Europe is important to you then when not Pagnoni ? Pagnoni is, literally by amount of implant cases 100x more experienced. We have done several dozen together.
Do you think i should trust celal for genioOf course I’m not they a made by a beginner who started yesterday with a background as a blender artist trying to imitate me yet many still have extreme technical problems… so yea…
I have no idea about his abilities as a surgeon but I think sailer is old. Obviously I respect sailer a lot.
If staying in Europe is important to you then when not Pagnoni ? Pagnoni is, literally by amount of implant cases 100x more experienced. We have done several dozen together.
if it’s customDo you think i should trust celal for genio
What do you think of Ramieris implants that he designs?Of course I’m not they a made by a beginner who started yesterday with a background as a blender artist trying to imitate me yet many still have extreme technical problems… so yea…
I have no idea about his abilities as a surgeon but I think sailer is old. Obviously I respect sailer a lot.
If staying in Europe is important to you then when not Pagnoni ? Pagnoni is, literally by amount of implant cases 100x more experienced. We have done several dozen together.
When did u reach out, weren’t u a safi case? Or someone else, i reached out to the turkish surgeon 2 months ago with scans and 0 responsesCelal. @RealSurgerymax (Giant) will be in the operating room for supervision.
U need to book a consultation im pretty sureWhen did u reach out, weren’t u a safi case? Or someone else, i reached out to the turkish surgeon 2 months ago with scans and 0 responses
Insane my dream set bro, good luck man, wish u ascension and to leave psl rotter forums for lifeBimax w/ giant might be less, but I’d ask to be sure. It’ll cost me around ~28-30k euros since I’m getting full periorbital implants/jaw angles + bi/trimax.
which surgeons did you reach to?Insane my dream set bro, good luck man, wish u ascension and to leave psl rotter forums for life
Not many since its drastic case but Ones that offer jaw + implants, my entire skull is recessed plus rlly bad bite need pre-op, rlly unfortunate, just want to look normal tbhwhich surgeons did you reach to?
dm me themNot many since its drastic case but Ones that offer jaw + implants, my entire skull is recessed plus rlly bad bite need pre-op, rlly unfortunate, just want to look normal tbh
I was originally going w/ Safi until I realized he was too expensive for me. Then started looking at Ramieri, Pagnoni and Celal. Went w/ Celal since Giant will be designing the Trimax. Pagnoni is an awesome choice, thoWhen did u reach out, weren’t u a safi case? Or someone else, i reached out to the turkish surgeon 2 months ago with scans and 0 responses
Custom guides and plates for bimax adds about 6k.
Usually we are also combining with implants.
Remember Supras and Infraorbital malars alone will be about $25-30k in EU.
So when you combine, it sounds a lot more reasonable.
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~30k euro for facial ascension is the best possible investment you could make. @MTNAscension2 Are you gonna do anything with your zygos? Also how long did it take to get ur consultation scheduled?Bimax w/ giant might be less, but I’d ask to be sure. It’ll cost me around ~28-30k euros since I’m getting full periorbital implants/jaw angles + bi/trimax.
Yes, definitely. Took about around ~1.5 weeks after paying Giant the design fee to get a consult via Zoom~30k euro for facial ascension is the best possible investment you could make. @MTNAscension2 Are you gonna do anything with your zygos? Also how long did it take to get ur consultation scheduled?
(patiently waiting for giant website )
Nothing but the best of luck to you! Seriously, I hope you get everything you're hoping for. If you ever decide to share anything about the process, I'd be all ears.Yes, definitely. Took about around ~1.5 weeks after paying Giant the design fee to get a consult via Zoom
Didn't the Brazilian pay 25k?~30k euro for facial ascension is the best possible investment you could make. @MTNAscension2 Are you gonna do anything with your zygos? Also how long did it take to get ur consultation scheduled?
(patiently waiting for giant website )
Definitely will once I get my VSP/quoteNothing but the best of luck to you! Seriously, I hope you get everything you're hoping for. If you ever decide to share anything about the process, I'd be all ears.
around 25-30k. I believe price may have gone up a bit. Will confirm once I get quote from Celal/GiantDidn't the Brazilian pay 25k?
Interesting, I thought price would stay the same for the most part since one of the main selling points is affordability and he needed a lot of cases to do so which he now has. Unless it's for increased material costaround 25-30k. I believe price may have gone up a bit. Will confirm once I get quote from Celal/Giant
I'm getting titanium implants, so likely will be slightly more expensive than Gui's (brazilian kid)Interesting, I thought price would stay the same for the most part since one of the main selling points is affordability and he needed a lot of cases to do so which he now has. Unless it's for increased material cost
Interesting why titanium? To my understanding they're harder to get out, and if they end up being too big in person and need to be shaved down it can't be done with titanium which is what happened for gui ( too large and was made smaller during surgery)I'm getting titanium implants, so likely will be slightly more expensive than Gui's (brazilian kid)
better contour, ossification + size control w/ titanium according to @RealSurgerymaxInteresting why titanium? To my understanding they're harder to get out, and if they end up being too big in person and need to be shaved down it can't be done with titanium which is what happened for gui ( too large and was made smaller during surgery)
What about genio alone?I consulted with him and it was 11k euros for bimax + genio.
Hey man, best of luck to you, love that you're grabbing life by the balls, and am sure it will turn out amazingYes, definitely. Took about around ~1.5 weeks after paying Giant the design fee to get a consult via Zoom
thoughts on Pagnoni?raffaini is basically guarantted ascencion, celal botched lots of patients.
Didn’t see your comment about zygos. Yes, I’ll be getting inframalar implants. No widening on zygos since don’t want to ruin my 0.451 ES ratio~30k euro for facial ascension is the best possible investment you could make. @MTNAscension2 Are you gonna do anything with your zygos? Also how long did it take to get ur consultation scheduled?
(patiently waiting for giant website )
I had actually scheduled surgery with him but found a bunch of complaints about him on a Turkish facebook group.Careful with Celal, there was a serious complaint on reddit about him. Try to test him whether he has aesthetic sense.
who will u/did u go with nowI had actually scheduled surgery with him but found a bunch of complaints about him on a Turkish facebook group.
I had my surgery with Erol Cansiz.who will u/did u go with now
I suggest you also try Erol Cansız. Unfortuntaley Maxillofacial surgeons in Turkey are not used to have clients changing their face for purely aesthetic reasons. It is either people who are horribly deformed or people who have serious health issues go to such doctors.I had actually scheduled surgery with him but found a bunch of complaints about him on a Turkish facebook group.
I had surgery with him.I suggest you also try Erol Cansız. Unfortuntaley Maxillofacial surgeons in Turkey are not used to have clients changing their face for purely aesthetic reasons. It is either people who are horribly deformed or people who have serious health issues go to such doctors.
Woah, he's the doctor who performed Giant's OBO, right?I had surgery with him.