How much of a failo is this

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Squiggly lip seal

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Straight lip seal

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Not at all
 
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Not that big of a failo as long as you have good overall lips.

But definitely a halo having them straight.

Unfortunately, I have them downturned…
 
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it's possible to straighten them if you're bothered by it.
 
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Aligners for teeth change it? Are threads the cheapest among what you listed ?
teeth don't have as much of an impact on the lips as people think.

fillers and botox are cheaper if you get them done professionally, the reason everyone hates threads is because doctors are scamming people, and also the barbed types that are used for pulling are shit.
 
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fillers and botox are cheaper
Which one is safer and what’s the chance of botch? My lip size is decent only the lip seal is weird

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Which one is safer and what’s the chance of botch? My lip size is decent only the lip seal is weird

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in your case they just need to lift the outside corners of your mouth a little, that on it's own will make it look less squiggly.
 
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in your case they just need to lift the outside corners of your mouth a little, that on it's own will make it look less squiggly.
What is that procedure called?
 
Minor issue
 
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lip flip, they can do it both in the corners and the top and you just need it in the corners.

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In the second pic after why did her cupids bow dissapear? why did she even get it done in the top? Also do you know any other way of increasing perceived lip size without actually altering anything, like volufiline or some lip balms can do anything? Ill see where they offer lip flip, how does it differ from lip lift? Latter is for those with bad philthrums right? But ive seen they all have bigger lips also after lip lift
 
In the second pic after why did her cupids bow dissapear? why did she even get it done in the top? Also do you know any other way of increasing perceived lip size without actually altering anything, like volufiline or some lip balms can do anything? Ill see where they offer lip flip, how does it differ from lip lift? Latter is for those with bad philthrums right? But ive seen they all have bigger lips also after lip lift
cupids bow is the same, they just lifted the corners up so it's not prominent anymore.

Also do you know any other way of increasing perceived lip size without actually altering anything

you can alter the philtrum for more volume but it won't work in your case because that's already the thickest part of your lips.


Ill see where they offer lip flip, how does it differ from lip lift?
lip flip just flips the lip outwards more, doesn't specifically have to be the inner part, lip lift is always the inner part, won't work for your issue.
 
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lip flip just flips the lip outwards more, doesn't specifically have to be the inner part, lip lift is always the inner part, won't work for your issue.
Also what determines which lip size would look good on you?

For eg. Delon looks good with this,
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while Ramirez mouth is much bigger with pronounced commisures

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Is lips not that important for aesthetics or are there some things more important for lip aesthetics than others (For eg size not so important etc)
 
Also what determines which lip size would look good on you?
whether your face leans towards masculine or feminine.

delon doesn't have a super masculine face so smaller lips are fine for him, ramirez has an extremely masculine face so larger more feminine lips balance his face out.

width also does this, women have narrower mouths, makes your face look more 'dainty' in a sense.
 
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whether your face leans towards masculine or feminine.

delon doesn't have a super masculine face so smaller lips are fine for him, ramirez has an extremely masculine face so larger more feminine lips balance his face out.

width also does this, women have narrower mouths, makes your face look more 'dainty' in a sense.
Does very lean Paranasal area also make mouth look bigger? The lip flip seems great since it only lasts 3 months. I just need to find a clinic where they offer so far I only got “lip augmentation “ and “ lip enhancement “ so I think I have to call them to ask. Also thoughts on volufiline , hylauronic acid etc for giving slight more plump on lips or its cope?

How important do you think teeth and wide smile are? Are braces/aligners worth it if your teeth are slightly misaligned but clean? If I do get aligners will it give me wider dental arch and thus slightly more teeth show when smiling?
 
Does very lean Paranasal area also make mouth look bigger?
I don't know what you mean by this, being lean in this area isn't a good thing, fat loss there is one of the reason why people have nasolabial folds.

I have 26 wires in this area to prevent that.


Also thoughts on volufiline , hylauronic acid etc for giving slight more plump on lips or its cope?
costs more long term than fillers do.


How important do you think teeth and wide smile are?
straight teeth are important, width doesn't matter at all, people get halo'd more from having low gum exposure or dimples when they smile than they do from the width.

Are braces/aligners worth it if your teeth are slightly misaligned but clean?
whether braces will work depends a lot on your individual situation, I had several extractions and braces and my jaw didn't suffer at all, no grafts either.

but my teeth deformities weren't caused by recession as they usually are, rather I had a condition called hyperdontia which causes you do grow additional teeth.
 
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straight teeth are important, width doesn't matter at all, people get halo'd more from having low gum exposure or dimples when they smile than they do from the width.
So clear aligners are safer than braces acc to you? My problem is misaligned teeth my canines don’t meet for eg

Is it always the case that when the teeth are aligned the dental arch automatically gets wider provided there is space or is it something that has to be planned beforehand w the orthodontist?
 
So clear aligners are safer than braces acc to you? My problem is misaligned teeth my canines don’t meet for eg

Is it always the case that when the teeth are aligned the dental arch automatically gets wider provided there is space or is it something that has to be planned beforehand w the orthodontist?
aligners work if your teeth aren't too crooked and you've actually got space for them to go.

your dental arch usually doesn't tend get any wider, teeth are just shoved to the back more, they can pull them forward or backwards but it's the roots that determine whether it'll fit and those don't change from that.
 
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aligners work if your teeth aren't too crooked and you've actually got space for them to go.

your dental arch usually doesn't tend get any wider, teeth are just shoved to the back more, they can pull them forward or backwards but it's the roots that determine whether it'll fit and those don't change from that.
So the slightly more teeth show after aligners people get is from teeth being pushed backwards? For those who need it pulled out wards there would be no diff in teeth show smile ?
 
Straight one. All curries have the squiggly one such a looksmin
 
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They don’t , it’s very individual. Moose has straight while o pry has squiggle. People notice it less on whites since most of them have paper lips
 
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So the slightly more teeth show after aligners people get is from teeth being pushed backwards? For those who need it pulled out wards there would be no diff in teeth show smile ?
nah that's from them being pushed forward, it can make your dental arch appear larger, but the actual bone doesn't change, it's just an illusion.

if they're moved backwards it can make it seem smaller, but the actual bone is the same, your maxilla doesn't really change from braces, when people say it made their face flat that's just the teeth protruding forward that made them look like they had more forward growth than they actually did.
 
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nah that's from them being pushed forward, it can make your dental arch appear larger, but the actual bone doesn't change, it's just an illusion.

if they're moved backwards it can make it seem smaller, but the actual bone is the same, your maxilla doesn't really change from braces, when people say it made their face flat that's just the teeth protruding forward that made them look like they had more forward growth than they actually did.
Ah right, but still some people get more teeth show after going on invisalign etc i think 6 to 8 tooth smile would be a minor plus. But it seems some people said you need to specify to the invisalign practitioner that you want your dental arch to appear larger else they just align the teeth and nothing happens. So you are saying that the latter isnt possible and that the final positon of the teeth depends whether the teeth show increases? Can the opposite happen where they tip your teeth inwards and that leads to less teeth show when smiling?

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So is invisalign not something special? and even braces / other clear aligners can do this under the right circumstances? What I gathered was they modelled your teeth in a CAD software and if you asked to expand arch they would give you a different tray to wear instead of if you didnt specify anything, just wanted straighter teeth
 
Ah right, but still some people get more teeth show after going on invisalign etc i think 6 to 8 tooth smile would be a minor plus.
it's not because their dental arch expanded, you don't tend to gain any bone there, it just moves what's already there.

you're better off asking these questions to a maxillofacial surgeon, I just have some experience with braces due to my genetic tooth issues.
 
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it's not because their dental arch expanded, you don't tend to gain any bone there, it just moves what's already there.

you're better off asking these questions to a maxillofacial surgeon, I just have some experience with braces due to my genetic tooth issues.
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