how much round gonions destroys the angularity of the jaw from the front?

[Deleted member 4430]

solution?

 

[Deleted member 3043]

all and totally.
Tbh i'm fat but i'm defo sure it's nearly everything.
I have every other features jaw wise : Perfect ramus, gonial angle, chin, even bigonial width.
But says a lot.
It's an easy fix tho, if everything is on point, you just need to fillers max the gonions

 

[Deleted member 6873]

all and totally.
Tbh i'm fat but i'm defo sure it's nearly everything.
I have every other features jaw wise : Perfect ramus, gonial angle, chin, even bigonial width.
But says a lot.
It's an easy fix tho, if everything is on point, you just need to fillers max the gonions

is there anyway to tell if you have round gonions? ngl im kinda retarded

 

[Deleted member 3043]

is there anyway to tell if you have round gonions? ngl im kinda retarded

Once you'r lean it's pretty visible from both the front and the side, it has a big pump in the ramus/mandible intersection, and front wise it shows angularity in that area basically.

 

[Deleted member 6873]

Once you'r lean it's pretty visible from both the front and the side, it has a big pump in the ramus/mandible intersection, and front wise it shows angularity in that area basically.

ill pm you a pic from when i was a bit less bloated, too retarded too understand this

 

[Deleted member 10536]

is there anyway to tell if you have round gonions? ngl im kinda retarded

You need to use your fingers and touch it a lot, so that you can create a mental image. Also calculate the angle and length of the ramus. Mine is crappy at 4~cm and 130 degrees.

 

[Rabbi]

Round gonions are subhuman at fml

 

[Deleted member 6873]

You need to use your fingers and touch it a lot, so that you can create a mental image. Also calculate the angle and length of the ramus. Mine is crappy at 4~cm and 130 degrees.

i dropped math so idk

 

[Deleted member 10536]

i dropped math so idk

Doesn't require math tho. Also angularity is helped a lot by the protrusion, width. So fillers are good for that. I'm like 2mm away at this point from ordering the fillers. I swear.
Depending on your starting position it might require from 1ml to maybe 4ml of filler per side. Jaw can take shitloads of filler tbh.

 

[Deleted member 6873]

Doesn't require math tho. Also angularity is helped a lot by the protrusion, width. So fillers are good for that. I'm like 2mm away at this point from ordering the fillers. I swear.
Depending on your starting position it might require from 1ml to maybe 4ml of filler per side. Jaw can take shitloads of filler tbh.

thanks bhai.
from what users told me jaw is the least of my worries lol
Surgery wise im just gonna try and fix my failos instead of spending 100 grand on some weird invasive surgeries
ill keep it at Undereye fat grafts and buccal fat removal

 

[sandcelmuttcel]

just chew tbh

 

[Deleted member 10536]

thanks bhai.
from what users told me jaw is the least of my worries lol
Surgery wise im just gonna try and fix my failos instead of spending 100 grand on some weird invasive surgeries
ill keep it at Undereye fat grafts and buccal fat removal

Idk tbh, I think everything matters and everything has an effect on everything. Of course I don't know how you look. But like even "perfect" people aren't perfect and can be improved upon by fillers, which is just so simple, with little invasiveness and very safe procedure. I'm having hard time finding arguments against it. I might be delusional, but think it's mandatory at this point.

 

[Deleted member 6873]

Idk tbh, I think everything matters and everything has an effect on everything. Of course I don't know how you look. But like even "perfect" people aren't perfect and can be improved upon by fillers, which is just so simple, with little invasiveness and very safe procedure. I'm having hard time finding arguments against it. I might be delusional, but think it's mandatory at this point.

eh i dont wanna risk ending up with that filler bloat look, only place i'd might do it is for my chin though for width

 

[Deleted member 10536]

eh i dont wanna risk ending up with that filler bloat look, only place i'd might do it is for my chin though for width

Hyaluronic acid + hyaluronidase = absolutely nothing.
Thing is, if you do the filler at jaw/chin, there is just not much space for it to migrate anywhere, especially if it's done at the bone. And in most places, if done at the bone, it stays there. It's the superficial fillers that are bound to migrate, but even then. As a male, you shouldn't do superficial filler injections. Women do those.

 

[Deleted member 6873]

Hyaluronic acid + hyaluronidase = absolutely nothing.
Thing is, if you do the filler at jaw/chin, there is just not much space for it to migrate anywhere, especially if it's done at the bone. And in most places, if done at the bone, it stays there. It's the superficial fillers that are bound to migrate, but even then. As a male, you shouldn't do superficial filler injections. Women do those.

thanks for the advice habib

 

[Deleted member 10536]

thanks for the advice habib

I'm going to do it. The problem really, is fucking up aesthetically, but even in lookism.net people were doing that already. Not a new thing. Imo, and what others have reported - go slowly, a little bit by bit. Also at some angles you can't really see what you're doing, if using one mirror.
Depends on how you look I guess too. As for me, I can't really lose, besides the money. And reward could be a huge looks improvement.
I find myself often talking about fillers, as they do seem an easy way out. As I said, I might be delusional, but really wish/hope somebody proved me otherwise.

 

[Deleted member 6873]

I'm going to do it. The problem really, is fucking up aesthetically, but even in lookism.net people were doing that already. Not a new thing. Imo, and what others have reported - go slowly, a little bit by bit. Also at some angles you can't really see what you're doing, if using one mirror.
Depends on how you look I guess too. As for me, I can't really lose, besides the money. And reward could be a huge looks improvement.
I find myself often talking about fillers, as they do seem an easy way out. As I said, I might be delusional, but really wish/hope somebody proved me otherwise.

Are you gonna inject it yourself?

 

[Deleted member 10536]

Are you gonna inject it yourself?

Absofuckinglutely. Have watched hundreds of videos on injections, techniques, anatomy. But focused on zygo and jaw/chin areas mostly. Not going to do anything in dangerous areas such as nasolabial, orbital brow ridge, nose proximity or temples.
Tbh I like putting needles in my body. Piercing every skin layer results in a pop and you can feel the layers tearing. I've already experimented a bit.

 

[Deleted member 3043]

Idk tbh, I think everything matters and everything has an effect on everything. Of course I don't know how you look. But like even "perfect" people aren't perfect and can be improved upon by fillers, which is just so simple, with little invasiveness and very safe procedure. I'm having hard time finding arguments against it. I might be delusional, but think it's mandatory at this point.

issue with fillers are mainly that the product don't disappear by itself and will go up in your face, and will eventually give you a bloated/saggy face, if done too much. Let alone the fact that it's non permanent, and that the results shown are always during the swelling where the results are better than after it.

 

[Deleted member 3043]

Absofuckinglutely. Have watched hundreds of videos on injections, techniques, anatomy. But focused on zygo and jaw/chin areas mostly. Not going to do anything in dangerous areas such as nasolabial, orbital brow ridge, nose proximity or temples.
Tbh I like putting needles in my body. Piercing every skin layer results in a pop and you can feel the layers tearing. I've already experimented a bit.

Do you think botox above the eyebrows are risky as like eyelid fillers for example?
Literally insane ascension for a better eye area.
I'm thinking of getting it, but since i haven't look into the forehead anatomy, it's better to be safe.

 

[Deleted member 6873]

Absofuckinglutely. Have watched hundreds of videos on injections, techniques, anatomy. But focused on zygo and jaw/chin areas mostly. Not going to do anything in dangerous areas such as nasolabial, orbital brow ridge, nose proximity or temples.
Tbh I like putting needles in my body. Piercing every skin layer results in a pop and you can feel the layers tearing. I've already experimented a bit.

didnt know you were into bdsm

 

[Deleted member 10536]

Do you think botox above the eyebrows are risky as like eyelid fillers for example?
Literally insane ascension for a better eye area.
I'm thinking of getting it, but since i haven't look into the forehead anatomy, it's better to be safe.

It's an risky area. Because there are several arteries there, and more importantly - they're supplying the eye. Vaso occlusion = blindness. You can try touching up the upper orbital ridge to find a notch for example, there would be one of the arteries running. But botox is not the same as filler. I've read that a lot of practioneers simply refuse to do any injections into brow region and upwards from there 1.5-2cm. it has a lot of important veins/arteries. Jfl, I don't even know off the top of my head whether botox could result in vaso occlusion or not - which is the main risk with the regular fillers. Still can't imagine it being good, injecting foreign crap into a blood vessel.
I wasn't particularly into botox, as I thought it's mostly for wrinkles/muscles and very short term effects, so I don't really know much about it. But ye, you can do filler in this case, to get a more hooded eye area for example.

 

[Deleted member 10536]

didnt know you were into bdsm

At this point I'm into everything that can help me ascend, besides things that are too difficult. I need to gymmaxx, I know, but fuck is that so hard...

 

[Deleted member 3043]

It's an risky area. Because there are several arteries there, and more importantly - they're supplying the eye. Vaso occlusion = blindness. You can try touching up the upper orbital ridge to find a notch for example, there would be one of the arteries running. But botox is not the same as filler. I've read that a lot of practioneers simply refuse to do any injections into brow region and upwards from there 1.5-2cm. it has a lot of important veins/arteries. Jfl, I don't even know off the top of my head whether botox could result in vaso occlusion or not - which is the main risk with the regular fillers. Still can't imagine it being good, injecting foreign crap into a blood vessel.
I wasn't particularly into botox, as I thought it's mostly for wrinkles/muscles and very short term effects, so I don't really know much about it. But ye, you can do filler in this case, to get a more hooded eye area for example.

i see. Brutal that the most important part of the face is also the more risky.
I mean, i would prefer botox because in that area it's more natural - literally lowering the muscle to give a more natural hooding while with fillers it's similar as a fat pad.
But, i'm also asking this because well, most surgeons refuse totally to ever do fillers in one area that is the upper eyelid one, saying they don't have enough skills.

 

[Deleted member 3043]

At this point I'm into everything that can help me ascend, besides things that are too difficult. I need to gymmaxx, I know, but fuck is that so hard...

Unironically, roidmax, and take ritalin

 

[Deleted member 6873]

Unironically, roidmax, and take ritalin

hair = life bro

 

[Deleted member 10536]

i see. Brutal that the most important part of the face is also the more risky.
I mean, i would prefer botox because in that area it's more natural - literally lowering the muscle to give a more natural hooding while with fillers it's similar as a fat pad.
But, i'm also asking this because well, most surgeons refuse totally to ever do fillers in one area that is the upper eyelid one, saying they don't have enough skills.

Tbh in the end it's not about skills. Every person has slight difference in their anatomy and it's just risky area, if even a 0.1% chance of fucking up. Results could be catastrophic - career ruining. There's no reason to do that for those people.

 

[Deleted member 3043]

hair = life bro

Genetics = life. If you have good genes, no balding even when roiding.

 

[Deleted member 6873]

Genetics = life. If you have good genes, no balding even when roiding.

not risking it tbh tbh

 

[Deleted member 3043]

not risking it tbh tbh

if you balding w your hair genetics, imma pay you HT tbh

 

[Deleted member 6873]

if you balding w your hair genetics, imma pay you HT tbh

brb taking trip to turkey with the homeboys @streege and @larsanova69 @Syobevoli

 

[Deleted member 10536]

Unironically, roidmax, and take ritalin

I've posted my body before. But I value the health and well being, hair too. I don't want to roll a dice on my hair, tbh.

I don't think my body is terrible, but getting on gear from this position is a waste. Also all gyms are closed. I can do pull ups/chin ups/abs work at home, some sort of calisthenics.

 

[Deleted member 3043]

I've posted my body before. But I value the health and well being, hair too. I don't want to roll a dice on my hair, tbh.
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I don't think my body is terrible, but getting on gear from this position is a waste. Also all gyms are closed. I can do pull ups/chin ups/abs work at home, some sort of calisthenics.

it looks decent, but absolutely not enough if you plan on slaying which you wont.
Because i did and saw experiences with the body halo - given it's top tier - and the primitive instinct of these girls on apps just pop up and they'r DTF.

 

[Deleted member 6873]

I've posted my body before. But I value the health and well being, hair too. I don't want to roll a dice on my hair, tbh.
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I don't think my body is terrible, but getting on gear from this position is a waste. Also all gyms are closed. I can do pull ups/chin ups/abs work at home, some sort of calisthenics.

it looks decent, but absolutely not enough if you plan on slaying which you wont.
Because i did and saw experiences with the body halo - given it's top tier - and the primitive instinct of these girls on apps just pop up and they'r DTF.

mogs my physique jfl
Are you flexxing abs?

 

[Deleted member 10536]

it looks decent, but absolutely not enough if you plan on slaying which you wont.
Because i did and saw experiences with the body halo - given it's top tier - and the primitive instinct of these girls on apps just pop up and they'r DTF.

Ye well, as I said I don't even want that. But better body looks better, even if for myself. So I should do something at least.
It's just living this shitty kind of life seeps out the life force of being able to do things which requires a lot of energy. I think in part it's all about getting yourself in a "positive" feedback loop, where good things are happening, so it's easier to make good things happen, so that good things happen even more often and turn it into a vicious self-feeding cycle. And for that you have to at least meet the basic-survival needs. Which I do not.

 

[Deleted member 10536]

mogs my physique jfl
Are you flexxing abs?

Tbh there's 0 difference between flexing or not, as my muscles are small, but low bf%, so it's just being lean enough. I might have decent torso fat storing genetics, but shitty facial fat storing genetics. My face looks fat/bloated.