how much time i have left to grow

[fczz]

Findings
Bone structures with normal radiopacity.
The distal radius and ulna show normal morphology and positioning, with decreased thickness of the growth plate, in preparation for fusion.
Carpal bones show the presence of 8 defined bones.
The metacarpals present adequate morphology and positioning. Growth lines are fused.
The phalanges show proper morphology and positioning. Growth lines are fused.
Joint spaces are preserved and show proper bone alignment.
Wrist joint shows proper alignment, with preserved and symmetrical joint spaces.
Soft tissues have normal radiopacity and volume.

Previous studies
No previous studies available.

Conclusion
Bone age corresponds to 17 years for the male gender, according to the Greulich and Pyle Radiographic Atlas.

Suggestions
Findings should be correlated with clinical context.

 

[fczz]

someone answer

 

[Scriggan]

someone answer

to high iq i dont understand

 

[fczz]

to high iq i dont understand

oh

 

[fczz]

@The Homelander

 

[killthelurch]

Basically at 17 it's over for growth unless ur an anomaly (u aren't so it's over)

 

[iabsolvejordan]

How old are you? What stage of puberty are you in? Based on this radiology report, most of the growth plates in your hands and wrists (metacarpals/phalanges) have already fused. Your forearm bones (distal radius/ulna) are thinning their growth plates, meaning you’re not far from fusion. Your bone age is estimated at 17, it’s likely you have a few months to a year of growth left (about 0.5-2cm) depending on how old you currently are, and how optimized your hormones are (test, gh/igf-1), including nutrition and sleep.

 

[fczz]

How old are you? What stage of puberty are you in? Based on this radiology report, most of the growth plates in your hands and wrists (metacarpals/phalanges) have already fused. Your forearm bones (distal radius/ulna) are thinning their growth plates, meaning you’re not far from fusion. Your bone age is estimated at 17, it’s likely you have a few months to a year of growth left (about 0.5-2cm) depending on how old you currently are, and how optimized your hormones are (test, gh/igf-1), including nutrition and sleep.

im 16 almost 17 (in 2 months) i calculated stage 3.4-3.7
so im staying at 174?

 

[fczz]

Basically at 17 it's over for growth unless ur an anomaly (u aren't so it's over)

fuck

 

[killthelurch]

fuck

Brutal ik

 

[fczz]

Brutal ik

so if i inject hgh it wont work?

 

[iabsolvejordan]

im 16 almost 17 (in 2 months) i calculated stage 3.4-3.7
so im staying at 174?

Yeah basically, if you’re at 174cm right now you’re probably capping out at 175cm but you could increase that if you optimize hormones/nutrition/sleep like I said. Mark my original reply as solution bhai

 

[fczz]

Yeah basically, if you’re at 174cm right now you’re probably capping out at 175cm but you could increase that if you optimize hormones/nutrition/sleep like I said. Mark my original reply as solution bhai

how do i optimize them, even if they are from my hand? my leg and spine i havent checked, maybe i can get to 180 ffs, if i inject hgh will it work?

 

[fczz]

how do i optimize them, even if they are from my hand? my leg and spine i havent checked, maybe i can get to 180 ffs, if i inject hgh will it work?

@iabsolvejordan yes or no

 

[iabsolvejordan]

how do i optimize them

Plenty of quality threads on these topics right at your fingertips. DYOR accordingly and always be smart about your protocols, learning until you know exactly what you need to put into practice, when, how, and why. It will take a while but I advise you to prioritize this as you dont have much time left.

even if they are from my hand? my leg and spine i havent checked, maybe i can get to 180 ffs

Your Tanner stage estimation of 3.4-3.7 might be off, since most teens your age are at about 4.5, though luck might be on your side. The bones in your legs and spine may not have fused fully yet, allowing for a few centimeters of growth. Your leg bones are probably about 50% longer than your arm bones, going based off proportional averages, so you could expect to grow to like 175-177cm if you optimize nutrition/sleep.

if i inject hgh will it work?

With hormone optimization and gear usage, you may be able to hit 178 if you’re lucky and play your cards right. But take this with a grain of salt, as it’s way more nuanced and complex. As I said, your early tanner stage at this age could be a giveaway that you still have time. How tall are your parents, and how has your growth been recently? To answer your question, HGH only gives substantial results if your plates arent fused, which fortunately seems to be the case, and if you have low gh/igf-1 levels, which you would need testing to determine. If you can afford taking it, pair with testosterone for better results.

Your best bet would be getting your blood work done in order to determine hormone levels (IGF-1, GH, testosterone, estradiol, LH/FSH), and pelvic/knee x-rays to confirm for open growth plates in your lower body/spine. Your bone age is 17, but clinical signs suggest skeletal age might be closer to 15.5-16 biologically, although without proper confirmation it’s all just a guess.. Good luck.

 

[fczz]

Plenty of quality threads on these topics right at your fingertips. DYOR accordingly and always be smart about your protocols, learning until you know exactly what you need to put into practice, when, how, and why. It will take some time but I advise you to prioritize this as you dont have much left.

Your Tanner stage estimation of 3.4-3.7 might be off though, since most teens your age are at about 4.5, although luck might be on your side. The bones in your legs and spine may not have fused fully yet, allowing for a few centimeters of growth. Your leg bones are probably about 50% longer than your arm bones, going based off proportional averages, so you could expect to grow to like 175-177cm if you optimize nutrition/sleep.

With hormone optimization and gear usage, you may be able to hit 178 if you’re lucky and play your cards right. But take this with a grain of salt, as it’s way more nuanced and complex. As I said, your early tanner stage at this age could be a giveaway that you still have time. How tall are your parents, and how has your growth been recently? To answer your question, gh only gives substantial results if your plates arent fused, which seems to be the case, and if you have low gh/igf-1 levels, which you would need testing to determine. If you can afford taking it, pair with testosterone.

Your best bet would be getting your blood work tested to determine hormone levels (IGF-1, GH, testosterone, estradiol, LH/FSH), and pelvic/knee x-rays to confirm for open growth plates in your lower body/spine. Your bone age is 17, but clinical signs suggest skeletal age might be closer to 15.5-16 biologically, although without proper confirmation it’s all just a guess..

no yeah my tanner stage is around 3.7
dad at peak 185
mom 164
i just took today a testosterone test
so you recommend checking my knee or pelvic xrays to see if i grow more?

 

[iabsolvejordan]

no yeah my tanner stage is around 3.7
dad at peak 185
mom 164

Great then, your parents are a good height. Depending on your growth rate you could be expecting more gains than I previously predicted, more so since it looks like you’re a late bloomer. Ask about your parents’ growth patterns. Were they steady? Late like yours?

There is one thing, though: your bone age might be advancing slower than the report implies.

Bone age corresponds to 17 years for the male gender, according to the Greulich and Pyle Radiographic Atlas.

But you said you’re currently in Tanner Stage 3.7, roughly. That’s a biological mismatch. Bone age reflects skeletal development, driven by estradiol which is converted from testosterone, via aromatase. Tanner stage 3.7 is usually associated with voice deepening, testicular growth, early facial hair, and spurts in height, which all happen at a way younger age than 17 (~13.5-15.5). Your bone age estimate might be misleading, since the Greulich & Pyle atlas is prone to subjectivity: if your radiologist thinks growth plates look “thin enough”, they call them mature, which may cause confusion, since you could still grow a noticeable amount. Or, your advanced bone age could be paired with a delayed puberty, which can happen due to high estradiol from aromatisation too early. How much do you weigh? Were you overweight in the past? Excess fat increases estrogen. Have you ever went on certain medication, or live a highly modern lifestyle, both of which could very well disrupt your endocrine system?

Based on your parents’ height, your genetic potential is roughly 174-188cm, which suggests you are a late bloomer and likely have 4-8cm left of growth in the tank. You’re already at the very bottom of your predicted range, and puberty is still incomplete, or at least it should be.

i just took today a testosterone test

Results? Have you checked the other markers as well?

so you recommend checking my knee or pelvic xrays to see if i grow more?

Yes, get those as well. Ask your doctor about any additional steps you can take, and keep your results organized since they are very insightful and will help with your protocols. You could also get imaging of an ankle x-ray (distal tibial growth plate), which can be open for longer in late bloomers, such as yourself, and your iliac crest. Ask your radiologist to assess epiphyseal plate status and estimate bone age relative to leg/axial bones, not just the wrist.

Ask your endocrinologist to test for the following markers:

• IGF-1, which reflects GH activity
• GH, which you may need stimulation tests of, if IGF-1 levels are low
• Total testosterone + free testosterone, which drive puberty and epiphyseal fusion
• Estradiol (E2), which closes growth plates and needs monitoring
• LH + FSH, which show how far you are in puberty, hormonally
• DHEA-S, which is an andrenal androgen that can help track what stage of puberty you are in
• TSH + free T4, which rule out thyroid issues that can affect growth

Low-normal IGF-1/GH + open plates: intervene ASAP. Discuss rhGH (recombinant growth hormone) and GH secretagogues with your endocrinologist. If your plates are responsive they can help extend your growth by 1.5-3.5cm or more. If you can’t get your hands on rhGH, research about Ipamorelin + CJC-1295 (no DAC), as well as aromatase inhibitors (AIs) like Anastrozole/Letrozole to delay fusion. Look into berberine, HCG and Clomid/Nolvadex as well, for potential PCT (post-cycle therapy).

 

[fczz]

Great then, your parents are a good height. Depending on your growth rate you could be expecting more gains than I previously predicted, more so since it looks like you’re a late bloomer. Ask about your parents’ growth patterns. Were they steady? Late like yours?

There is one thing, though: your bone age might be advancing slower than the report implies.

But you said you’re currently in Tanner Stage 3.7, roughly. That’s a biological mismatch. Bone age reflects skeletal development, driven by estradiol which is converted from testosterone, via aromatase. Tanner stage 3.7 is usually associated with voice deepening, testicular growth, early facial hair, and spurts in height, which all happen at a way younger age than 17 (~13.5-15.5). Your bone age estimate might be misleading, since the Greulich & Pyle atlas is prone to subjectivity: if your radiologist thinks growth plates look “thin enough”, they call them mature, which may cause confusion, since you could still grow a noticeable amount. Or, your advanced bone age could be paired with a delayed puberty, which can happen due to high estradiol from aromatisation too early. How much do you weigh? Were you overweight in the past? Excess fat increases estrogen. Have you ever went on certain medication, or live a highly modern lifestyle, both of which could very well disrupt your endocrine system?

Based on your parents’ height, your genetic potential is roughly 174-188cm, which suggests you are a late bloomer and likely have 4-8cm left of growth in the tank. You’re already at the very bottom of your predicted range, and puberty is still incomplete, or at least it should be.

Results? Have you checked the other markers as well?

Yes, get those as well. Ask your doctor about any additional steps you can take, and keep your results organized since they are very insightful and will help with your protocols. You could also get imaging of an ankle x-ray (distal tibial growth plate), which can be open for longer in late bloomers, such as yourself, and your iliac crest. Ask your radiologist to assess epiphyseal plate status and estimate bone age relative to leg/axial bones, not just the wrist.

Ask your endocrinologist to test for the following markers:

• IGF-1, which reflects GH activity
• GH, which you may need stimulation tests of, if IGF-1 levels are low
• Total testosterone + free testosterone, which drive puberty and epiphyseal fusion
• Estradiol (E2), which closes growth plates and needs monitoring
• LH + FSH, which show how far you are in puberty, hormonally
• DHEA-S, which is an andrenal androgen that can help track what stage of puberty you are in
• TSH + free T4, which rule out thyroid issues that can affect growth

Low-normal IGF-1/GH + open plates: intervene ASAP. Discuss rhGH (recombinant growth hormone) and GH secretagogues with your endocrinologist. If your plates are responsive they can help extend your growth by 1.5-3.5cm or more. If you can’t get your hands on rhGH, research about Ipamorelin + CJC-1295 (no DAC), as well as aromatase inhibitors (AIs) like Anastrozole/Letrozole to delay fusion. Look into berberine, HCG and Clomid/Nolvadex as well, for potential PCT (post-cycle therapy).

yes my parents were both late bloomers, especially my dad, my dad grew a beard by age 19 aproximately and so on
i weigh 60.1kg
yes i weighed 80kg at my peak
modern by what terms, no medication only for my alergies once every year (montelukast)
my test results come out on the 23, whenever i ger them ill show em to you, but im expecting low test because genetics also
they told me first get test amd then ill get the full package of all.hormones, ill tell you once i get them

honestly dude ty very much