How potent of a dht-blocker is astaxanthin?

[audimax]

Wanted to get it for the reddish skin glow but kinda afraid of the DHT lowering effects. Dont want to lose dht for some skin color gains. Anyone here experience with this topic?
I read everywhere is a dht blocker, but not by how much it inhibits the conversion from T to DHT

 

[Deleted member 2846]

12mg isn’t enough to block DHT.

 

[audimax]

Why is that?

 

[Deleted member 2846]

Why is that?

idk man, it’s what i’ve read/heard

 

[Deleted member 1849]

It's not a potent 5ar reductase inhibitor. If I'm not mistaken broccili is a 5ar reductase inhibitor. @Alarico8

Although It started making my eyebrows fall out.

I stopped taking it, they are now back to normal.

 

[audimax]

Would you take beta carotene in addition to it?

 

[Deleted member 4053]

12mg of astaxanthin will not block dht, and regular doses of vitamin A and K2 will not close growth plates. Don't worry about any of this shit unless you are megadosing.

 

[audimax]

Thx brah, going to cop this along with magnesium citrate.
Another question, is it fat soluble or something like beta carotene or can I take it whenever I want?

 

[PenileFacialSurgery]

It's not a potent 5ar reductase inhibitor. If I'm not mistaken broccili is a 5ar reductase inhibitor. @Alarico8

Although It started making my eyebrows fall out.

I stopped taking it, they are now back to normal.

Astax made your eyebrows fall out?

smh fuck that shit

 

[Mateusz74]

Blocks me

 

[Deleted member 2756]

upwards of a gram of astaxanthin will have an inhibitory effect on 5-alpha-reductase, lower than that won't, and definitely not the standard dose of 4-12mg lol.

 

[EverythingMattersCel]

Wanted to get it for the reddish skin glow but kinda afraid of the DHT lowering effects. Dont want to lose dht for some skin color gains. Anyone here experience with this topic?
I read everywhere is a dht blocker, but not by how much it inhibits the conversion from T to DHT

I bought some (7mg) and read some horror stories on Reddit about men developing gyno and losing their libido from just a few mg. I ended up throwing the bag away...

 

[gymislife]

Wanted to get it for the reddish skin glow but kinda afraid of the DHT lowering effects. Dont want to lose dht for some skin color gains. Anyone here experience with this topic?
I read everywhere is a dht blocker, but not by how much it inhibits the conversion from T to DHT

I bought some (7mg) and read some horror stories on Reddit about men developing gyno and losing their libido from just a few mg. I ended up throwing the bag away...

Yeah, I used 5mg a day for 40 days and I lost all of my libido, I got a slight gyno too, after stopping it, I had to wait like 3 weeks to regain my libido back, I could only get like a 60% erection while on it, idk if it was because of lowering DHT or a side effect. Some people take 12mg and have no problems, so it's an individual thing.
And no, it was not a nocebo, I didn't even know that it had such side effects, after I experienced them I did some research and saw it's a real thing - here you can read more about it: https://www.naturalmedicinejournal.com/journal/2012-02/astaxanthin-review-literature



tl;dr:

P.S. also this:

 

[Deleted member 5187]

Been taking astaxanthin 12mg and betacarotene 21mg for a month
Libido still way too high

Dosnt do shit to dht

 

[Deleted member 275]

Been taking astaxanthin 12mg and betacarotene 21mg for a month
Libido still way too high

Dosnt do shit to dht

Dunno about betacarotone, but ive been doubledosing asta 2x12mg for 2 months now and also 0 effect.

Tbh I think 90% of supplements is complete cope, but I take it anyways just in case I am wrong. Doesn't cost shit anyways.

 

[audimax]

Wtf guys..
I am taking 6mg a day right now, I hope this shit wont affect my dht

 

[Deleted member 275]

Wtf guys..
I am taking 6mg a day right now, I hope this shit wont affect my dht

idk why ur scared of dht drop. I am hopping on fin as soon as im 25yo, rip dht levels.

 

[audimax]

Cause thats all I have lol. High dht levels, everything else below average. good for sports, assertivenesd

 

[audimax]

Look what I found:
'The results show astaxanthin demonstrated 98% inhibition of 5a-reductase at 300 μg/mL in vitro.'
'Low levels of carotenoid astaxanthin inhibit 5a-reductase and decrease the growth of human prostatic cancer cells in vitro.'

trannymaxxing
researchgate.net/publication/247825263

 

[Deleted member 2756]

Look what I found:
'The results show astaxanthin demonstrated 98% inhibition of 5a-reductase at 300 μg/mL in vitro.'
'Low levels of carotenoid astaxanthin inhibit 5a-reductase and decrease the growth of human prostatic cancer cells in vitro.'

trannymaxxing
researchgate.net/publication/247825263

interesting, rip.

 

[Good_Little_Goy]

Look what I found:
'The results show astaxanthin demonstrated 98% inhibition of 5a-reductase at 300 μg/mL in vitro.'
'Low levels of carotenoid astaxanthin inhibit 5a-reductase and decrease the growth of human prostatic cancer cells in vitro.'

trannymaxxing
researchgate.net/publication/247825263

Yes but I very much doubt that's applicable to long term oral use. From what I've seen about oral use it does significantly inhibit dht, nothing crazy like shutdown but still something. However that is with crazy high doses that we wouldn't be close to but it isn't dose dependent.
Up to you but I really don't think that playing it safe with like a 4mg a day dose is going to have a non-negligible effect, if you we're to increase your test/dht another way it would most definitely completely negate the effects and more, even in the crazy high doses used orally in the studies.

 

[audimax]

Yes but I very much doubt that's applicable to long term oral use. From what I've seen about oral use it does significantly inhibit dht, nothing crazy like shutdown but still something. However that is with crazy high doses that we wouldn't be close to but it isn't dose dependent.
Up to you but I really don't think that playing it safe with like a 4mg a day dose is going to have a non-negligible effect, if you we're to increase your test/dht another way it would most definitely completely negate the effects and more, even in the crazy high doses used orally in the studies.

Have you done T maxing before?

 

[Good_Little_Goy]

Have you done T maxing before?

As in like chemically?
Not for Tmaxxing reasons but I'm on Arimistane rn which would definitely do the trick for this.
You can take it if you want but it's really not necessary, increasing it naturally would be more than enough.

I take d3 and zinc too.

 

[audimax]

As in like chemically?
Not for Tmaxxing reasons but I'm on Arimistane rn which would definitely do the trick for this.
You can take it if you want but it's really not necessary, increasing it naturally would be more than enough.

I take d3 and zinc too.

Idk, I feel like natural T maxxing doesnt do shit for me tbh.
I have normal bf range (14%), take zinc, d3+k2, magnesium, boron, vitamin C, dont do drugs/alocohol, no overtraining, enough fats, and T results still came in slightly below average compared to guys who drink beer and eat pizza as a meal

 

[Good_Little_Goy]

Idk, I feel like natural T maxxing doesnt do shit for me tbh.
I have normal bf range (14%), take zinc, d3+k2, magnesium, boron, vitamin C, dont do drugs/alocohol, no overtraining, enough fats, and T results still came in slightly below average compared to guys who drink beer and eat pizza as a meal

Natural Tmaxxing works but only contributes to normal test production, it can't take you above your genetic limit.
Seems like you've reached that already so maybe research hcg if you're intent on having high t levels.
Might as well hop on arimistane as well. You're young though right? very possible that you're just developing later than others and that's why your test is low for your age.

 

[audimax]

I turn 25 at the end of the year
I heard hcg has a lot of side effects tho, like fucking up your balls or desensitizing the receptors bound to
arimistane is an AI right? Thought about taking one too, but not too sure which one and if it would even have any effects since my E is probably not that high

 

[zami]

12mg of astaxanthin will not block dht, and regular doses of vitamin A and K2 will not close growth plates. Don't worry about any of this shit unless you are megadosing.

Wait does megadosing vitamin k2 close growth plates?

 

[Deleted member 4053]

Wait does megadosing vitamin k2 close growth plates?

I am pretty sure, yes. It was mentioned somewhere on .me a few months ago. But oyu would need to be taking absurd amounts.

 

[Good_Little_Goy]

I turn 25 at the end of the year
I heard hcg has a lot of side effects tho, like fucking up your balls or desensitizing the receptors bound to
arimistane is an AI right? Thought about taking one too, but not too sure which one and if it would even have any effects since my E is probably not that high

your balls will be fine but you can expect some desensitization to LH in your testicles. Seems like this is very temporary though.
arimistane is an AI yeah. If you wanna start taking one I'd start out with it and see how your body reacts.