How realistic is lefort 2?

[TrueNateJacobs]

Like if I literally contacted giant TODAY with proof of funds
(Picture of cash, bank statement, etc)
And said “I want lefort 2”
How likely would I be to get it?
How soon would I be able to?
What are the chances of it getting botched/will lefort 2 + trimax actually ascend someone who has maxilla and mandible recession?
I know on paper it should ascend you, but If I’m already hmtn who has appeal but is just recessed, is there a higher chance of me ascending, or descending after the procedure?
Like, does it fuck up harmony, ratios, etc?

 

[jgrey080]

Idk bro DNR just accutane or something

 

[TrueNateJacobs]

Bump

 

[TrueNateJacobs]

Bump

 

[RapeAllFemales]

Imagine falling for Giant implants meme surgery

 

[TrueNateJacobs]

Imagine falling for Giant implants meme surgery
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Yeah i know giant is like a botcher and scammer but thats literally why i am asking. Fucking IQcel i want to learn more.

 

[RealSurgerymax]

Like if I literally contacted giant TODAY with proof of funds
(Picture of cash, bank statement, etc)
And said “I want lefort 2”
How likely would I be to get it?

100% if I thought you were a good candidate for it. Most people do not need it.

How soon would I be able to?

3-4 months

What are the chances of it getting botched/will lefort 2 + trimax actually ascend someone who has maxilla and mandible recession?

The chance of minor complications and annoyances are about 90% for all surgeries and all major surgeons including lefort 1 level jaw surgery. Scar bands in mouth, can feel small bumps, some numbness.
The chance of a true botch is low.

I know on paper it should ascend you, but If I’m already hmtn who has appeal but is just recessed, is there a higher chance of me ascending, or descending after the procedure?

Thats for me to decide and explain in a consult with scans

Like, does it fuck up harmony, ratios, etc?

^

Imagine falling for Giant implants meme surgery
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Imagine being retarded. Its not a meme, we have done it successfully which no one else living can say.

Yeah i know giant is like a botcher and scammer but thats literally why i am asking. Fucking IQcel i want to learn more.

Chance I respond is now 0. Go somewhere else (Oh there is no where else, too bad for you.)

Never scammed anyone and you wont find a lower botch rate for these surgeries.

I am the only person who has ever facilitated a successful non syndrome LeFort 2 in the modern day through my planning and custom system. But keep being a disrespectful idiot with expectations for perfection 100% of the time. Really, keep looking.

 

[Devon]

100% if I thought you were a good candidate for it. Most people do not need it.

3-4 months

The chance of minor complications and annoyances are about 90% for all surgeries and all major surgeons including lefort 1 level jaw surgery. Scar bands in mouth, can feel small bumps, some numbness.
The chance of a true botch is low.

Thats for me to decide and explain in a consult with scans

^

Imagine being retarded. Its not a meme, we have done it successfully which no one else living can say.

Chance I respond is now 0. Go somewhere else (Oh there is no where else, too bad for you.)

Never scammed anyone and you wont find a lower botch rate for these surgeries.

I am the only person who has ever facilitated a successful non syndrome LeFort 2 in the modern day through my planning and custom system. But keep being a disrespectful idiot with expectations for perfection 100% of the time. Really, keep looking.

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Op gonna have to go to sunil richardson or some shi

 

[Oesteogenesis]

100% if I thought you were a good candidate for it. Most people do not need it.

3-4 months

The chance of minor complications and annoyances are about 90% for all surgeries and all major surgeons including lefort 1 level jaw surgery. Scar bands in mouth, can feel small bumps, some numbness.
The chance of a true botch is low.

Thats for me to decide and explain in a consult with scans

^

Imagine being retarded. Its not a meme, we have done it successfully which no one else living can say.

Chance I respond is now 0. Go somewhere else (Oh there is no where else, too bad for you.)

Never scammed anyone and you wont find a lower botch rate for these surgeries.

I am the only person who has ever facilitated a successful non syndrome LeFort 2 in the modern day through my planning and custom system. But keep being a disrespectful idiot with expectations for perfection 100% of the time. Really, keep looking.

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Is there any chance of simulating it with combination of lefort 1 with implants or bone grafts? Especially for phenos with a flat nose bridge and small nose which makes the eyes look protruded from the side?

 

[Koji]

Chance I respond is now 0.

JFLLLLLL

 

[Im sorry mother]

100% if I thought you were a good candidate for it. Most people do not need it.

3-4 months

The chance of minor complications and annoyances are about 90% for all surgeries and all major surgeons including lefort 1 level jaw surgery. Scar bands in mouth, can feel small bumps, some numbness.
The chance of a true botch is low.

Thats for me to decide and explain in a consult with scans

^

Imagine being retarded. Its not a meme, we have done it successfully which no one else living can say.

Chance I respond is now 0. Go somewhere else (Oh there is no where else, too bad for you.)

Never scammed anyone and you wont find a lower botch rate for these surgeries.

I am the only person who has ever facilitated a successful non syndrome LeFort 2 in the modern day through my planning and custom system. But keep being a disrespectful idiot with expectations for perfection 100% of the time. Really, keep looking.

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the obo guy never recovered btw

 

[AustrianMogger]

Like if I literally contacted giant TODAY with proof of funds
(Picture of cash, bank statement, etc)
And said “I want lefort 2”
How likely would I be to get it?
How soon would I be able to?
What are the chances of it getting botched/will lefort 2 + trimax actually ascend someone who has maxilla and mandible recession?
I know on paper it should ascend you, but If I’m already hmtn who has appeal but is just recessed, is there a higher chance of me ascending, or descending after the procedure?
Like, does it fuck up harmony, ratios, etc?

6 months

 

[Chasingthedream569]

Don't do it with giant I'm warning you

 

[Chasingthedream569]

Imagine falling for Giant implants meme surgery
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[RealSurgerymax]

Is there any chance of simulating it with combination of lefort 1 with implants or bone grafts? Especially for phenos with a flat nose bridge and small nose which makes the eyes look protruded from the side?

Yes with augmentation rhinoplasty.

 

[RealSurgerymax]

Don't do it with giant I'm warning you

Eat my shit. You have no idea what youre talking about.

 

[unon]

Like if I literally contacted giant TODAY with proof of funds
(Picture of cash, bank statement, etc)
And said “I want lefort 2”
How likely would I be to get it?
How soon would I be able to?
What are the chances of it getting botched/will lefort 2 + trimax actually ascend someone who has maxilla and mandible recession?
I know on paper it should ascend you, but If I’m already hmtn who has appeal but is just recessed, is there a higher chance of me ascending, or descending after the procedure?
Like, does it fuck up harmony, ratios, etc?

Bro get surgery that you need

 

[RealSurgerymax]

the obo guy never recovered btw

Oh are you following his case? Oh wait, thats me. Lol. Idiot.

 

[slaters]

Yes with augmentation rhinoplasty.

Wait so can a black guy or like a cambodian guy get a super Caucasian nose if he wanted theoretically
I occasionally see those ethnic rhinoplasty’s on instagram and they all look so shit after

 

[RealSurgerymax]

Op gonna have to go to sunil richardson or some shi

Fr. Im starting to dislike the incel/looksmax patient population. So rude so overly expectant so entitled. Close to switching to pediatrics and cancer CMF reconstruction cases.

 

[RealSurgerymax]

Op gonna have to go to sunil richardson or some shi

Fr. Im starting to dislike the incel/looksmax patient population. So rude so overly expectant so entitled. Close to switching to pediatrics and cancer CMF reconstruction cases.

 

[RealSurgerymax]

Wait so can a black guy or like a cambodian guy get a super Caucasian nose if he wanted theoretically
I occasionally see those ethnic rhinoplasty’s on instagram and they all look so shit after

Depends on the case. In principle, yes, you can get 80% of a LF2 result this way in most cases. Even with a LF2 rhino is probably required after anyway. This is why I dont accept all LF2 and LF3 requests. Usually there is a more practical way.

 

[slaters]

Depends on the case. In principle, yes, you can get 80% of a LF2 result this way in most cases. Even with a LF2 rhino is probably required after anyway. This is why I dont accept all LF2 and LF3 requests. Usually there is a more practical way.

Have u hard maxed yourself ?
And random question did u notice water retention on minox

 

[unstable]

Depends on the case. In principle, yes, you can get 80% of a LF2 result this way in most cases. Even with a LF2 rhino is probably required after anyway. This is why I dont accept all LF2 and LF3 requests. Usually there is a more practical way.

hey can you suggest me surgeries if i send you image

 

[childishkillah]

Fr. Im starting to dislike the incel/looksmax patient population. So rude so overly expectant so entitled. Close to switching to pediatrics and cancer CMF reconstruction cases.

Most of them are autistic and vain teenagers, don't give them importance.

 

[Devon]

Fr. Im starting to dislike the incel/looksmax patient population. So rude so overly expectant so entitled. Close to switching to pediatrics and cancer CMF reconstruction cases.

Please ascend me before leaving

 

[Chasingthedream569]

Eat my shit. You have no idea what youre talking about.

Glad you are showing your patients how "professional" you are

 

[Terrortheplug]

100% if I thought you were a good candidate for it. Most people do not need it.

3-4 months

The chance of minor complications and annoyances are about 90% for all surgeries and all major surgeons including lefort 1 level jaw surgery. Scar bands in mouth, can feel small bumps, some numbness.
The chance of a true botch is low.

Thats for me to decide and explain in a consult with scans

^

Imagine being retarded. Its not a meme, we have done it successfully which no one else living can say.

Chance I respond is now 0. Go somewhere else (Oh there is no where else, too bad for you.)

Never scammed anyone and you wont find a lower botch rate for these surgeries.

I am the only person who has ever facilitated a successful non syndrome LeFort 2 in the modern day through my planning and custom system. But keep being a disrespectful idiot with expectations for perfection 100% of the time. Really, keep looking.

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are you giant ?

 

[Oesteogenesis]

Fr. Im starting to dislike the incel/looksmax patient population. So rude so overly expectant so entitled. Close to switching to pediatrics and cancer CMF reconstruction cases.

Yo lemme get my trimax before you go

 

[RealSurgerymax]

Have u hard maxed yourself ?
And random question did u notice water retention on minox

Not rly. I want to but I need to train the surgeons I work with on my techniques and devices more so I can not be present (awake.) Right now I need to help but hopefully in a year or so they wont need me to assist the surgeries.

hey can you suggest me surgeries if i send you image

You need to get CT scans and have a full consult to show intent to come to me.
Otherwise cant waste my time.

Most of them are autistic and vain teenagers, don't give them importance.

True. Thx.

are you giant ?

Yes

Yo lemme get my trimax before you go

Ok

 

[Oesteogenesis]

the obo guy never recovered btw

Oh are you following his case? Oh wait, thats me. Lol. Idiot.

Im prettysure ape101 is fully recovered since i know him on discord and he already has something else planned with giant in September or later on (wont say because im not sure if he wants people to know) but i might ask him how hes doing with the OBO but if hes going in for more surgeries im sure hes recovered.


Again though this is just from info off discord he was real and shown me his plans but im still not 100% sure

 

[holycoper]

Idk bro DNR just accutane or something
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Cool t shirt

 

[Terrortheplug]

Not rly. I want to but I need to train the surgeons I work with on my techniques and devices more so I can not be present (awake.) Right now I need to help but hopefully in a year or so they wont need me to assist the surgeries.


You need to get CT scans and have a full consult to show intent to come to me.
Otherwise cant waste my time.


True. Thx.


Yes


Ok

How risky is brow ridge implant and do you think fat grafting a brow ridge and uue is good

 

[Oesteogenesis]

Not rly. I want to but I need to train the surgeons I work with on my techniques and devices more so I can not be present (awake.) Right now I need to help but hopefully in a year or so they wont need me to assist the surgeries.


You need to get CT scans and have a full consult to show intent to come to me.
Otherwise cant waste my time.


True. Thx.


Yes


Ok

Do you have finance options for your procedures even with a deposit upfront? Or is it all upfront cost before proceeding

 

[cyrux234]

Like if I literally contacted giant TODAY with proof of funds
(Picture of cash, bank statement, etc)
And said “I want lefort 2”
How likely would I be to get it?
How soon would I be able to?
What are the chances of it getting botched/will lefort 2 + trimax actually ascend someone who has maxilla and mandible recession?
I know on paper it should ascend you, but If I’m already hmtn who has appeal but is just recessed, is there a higher chance of me ascending, or descending after the procedure?
Like, does it fuck up harmony, ratios, etc?

U can't be hmtn if ur recessed faggot nigger

 

[Skry]

the obo guy never recovered btw

what happened?

 

[Skry]

Fr. Im starting to dislike the incel/looksmax patient population. So rude so overly expectant so entitled. Close to switching to pediatrics and cancer CMF reconstruction cases.

I value your contribution to the industry
without you there is nobody even pushing the boundaries. not even a chance for freaks like me to have a normal maxilla one day

 

[TrueNateJacobs]

100% if I thought you were a good candidate for it. Most people do not need it.

3-4 months

The chance of minor complications and annoyances are about 90% for all surgeries and all major surgeons including lefort 1 level jaw surgery. Scar bands in mouth, can feel small bumps, some numbness.
The chance of a true botch is low.

Thats for me to decide and explain in a consult with scans

^

Imagine being retarded. Its not a meme, we have done it successfully which no one else living can say.

Chance I respond is now 0. Go somewhere else (Oh there is no where else, too bad for you.)

Never scammed anyone and you wont find a lower botch rate for these surgeries.

I am the only person who has ever facilitated a successful non syndrome LeFort 2 in the modern day through my planning and custom system. But keep being a disrespectful idiot with expectations for perfection 100% of the time. Really, keep looking.

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Stupid botching nigger you have botched multiple people on this forum and you don’t respond to inquiries.
If i really wanted to get a surgery with you, I would just make a fucking alt you stupid nigger.
Motherfucker you are a known botcher.
Don’t get mad at me because you leave 1 inch gaps in implants and then leave your clients on sent for 8 months, then when you finally respond you just say
“Don’t worry it will all work out”
Stupid nigger you dont even have a phd you should be castrated.

 

[TrueNateJacobs]

U can't be hmtn if ur recessed faggot nigger

Stupid blue nigger is trying to tell me shit.
I would write a lengthy response but you’re not even worth my time goy.

 

[yussimania]

Stupid blue nigger is trying to tell me shit.
I would write a lengthy response but you’re not even worth my time goy.

if ur borderline HTN you don't need LF2 otherwise you would have been nerfed heavily for the failo

 

[RealSurgerymax]

Im prettysure ape101 is fully recovered since i know him on discord and he already has something else planned with giant in September or later on (wont say because im not sure if he wants people to know) but i might ask him how hes doing with the OBO but if hes going in for more surgeries im sure hes recovered.


Again though this is just from info off discord he was real and shown me his plans but im still not 100% sure

Yes hes getting Bimax and implants at Giant in a few weeks. You can see the old osteotomy lines from the OBO we did 1.5 years go.

How risky is brow ridge implant and do you think fat grafting a brow ridge and uue is good

Not risky.
Fat grafting doesnt work for aesthetic brow ridge augmentation because brow ridge needs to be sharp to be aesthetic. Blunt brow ridges are ogre. Only implants can define the aesthetic lines like that. I am one of only 2 people in the world experienced in designing them (the other is an older US Surgeon who trailblazed custom silicone implants.)

Do you have finance options for your procedures even with a deposit upfront? Or is it all upfront cost before proceeding

There are 4 stages and everything is up front before the stage happens.

Stage 1: Aesthetic Analysis and Consultation with me and surgeon $200 - $550

Stage 2: Case Design and Virtual Surgical Planning $2000 - $3000

Production of custom Titanium Guides, Plates, and Implants: $3,000 (Small genie case) - $18,000 (Huge LF2/3 Case with skull and implants). Average is about $7,500 (Bimax and 1 facial third of implants)

Surgery/Hospital/Anesthesia: $5,000 - $20,000 (Estimate) depending on surgery and surgeon. In ISTANBUL.

I value your contribution to the industry
without you there is nobody even pushing the boundaries. not even a chance for freaks like me to have a normal maxilla one day

Thx

 

[jeb98]

the obo guy never recovered btw

what do you mean

 

[jeb98]

Yes hes getting Bimax and implants at Giant in a few weeks. You can see the old osteotomy lines from the OBO we did 1.5 years go.
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Not risky.
Fat grafting doesnt work for aesthetic brow ridge augmentation because brow ridge needs to be sharp to be aesthetic. Blunt brow ridges are ogre. Only implants can define the aesthetic lines like that. I am one of only 2 people in the world experienced in designing them (the other is an older US Surgeon who trailblazed custom silicone implants.)



There are 4 stages and everything is up front before the stage happens.

Stage 1: Aesthetic Analysis and Consultation with me and surgeon $200 - $550

Stage 2: Case Design and Virtual Surgical Planning $2000 - $3000

Production of custom Titanium Guides, Plates, and Implants: $3,000 (Small genie case) - $18,000 (Huge LF2/3 Case with skull and implants). Average is about $7,500 (Bimax and 1 facial third of implants)

Surgery/Hospital/Anesthesia: $5,000 - $20,000 (Estimate) depending on surgery and surgeon. In ISTANBUL.


Thx

I have a question for you @RealSurgerymax. how much (on average) would an OBO cost with you, and is it possible the price could drop in the foreseeable future?

 

[RealSurgerymax]

what do you mean

what happened?

He has no idea what he is talking about.

Read responses.

 

[RealSurgerymax]

I have a question for you @RealSurgerymax. how much (on average) would an OBO cost with you, and is it possible the price could drop in the foreseeable future?

About 35K euros

It will never drop. Only increase.

 

[jeb98]

About 35K euros

It will never drop. Only increase.

alright, thank you

 

[Devon]

Yes hes getting Bimax and implants at Giant in a few weeks. You can see the old osteotomy lines from the OBO we did 1.5 years go.
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Not risky.
Fat grafting doesnt work for aesthetic brow ridge augmentation because brow ridge needs to be sharp to be aesthetic. Blunt brow ridges are ogre. Only implants can define the aesthetic lines like that. I am one of only 2 people in the world experienced in designing them (the other is an older US Surgeon who trailblazed custom silicone implants.)



There are 4 stages and everything is up front before the stage happens.

Stage 1: Aesthetic Analysis and Consultation with me and surgeon $200 - $550

Stage 2: Case Design and Virtual Surgical Planning $2000 - $3000

Production of custom Titanium Guides, Plates, and Implants: $3,000 (Small genie case) - $18,000 (Huge LF2/3 Case with skull and implants). Average is about $7,500 (Bimax and 1 facial third of implants)

Surgery/Hospital/Anesthesia: $5,000 - $20,000 (Estimate) depending on surgery and surgeon. In ISTANBUL.


Thx

Are most of your cases with burak now?

 

[RealSurgerymax]

Are most of your cases with burak now?

Burak or Comert right now. So far so good.

Don't do it with giant I'm warning you

As if you can do it anywhere else?

"Don't do it with the most experienced service who invented the current methods"

Retard take.

 

[Frogooboi]

100% if I thought you were a good candidate for it. Most people do not need it.

3-4 months

The chance of minor complications and annoyances are about 90% for all surgeries and all major surgeons including lefort 1 level jaw surgery. Scar bands in mouth, can feel small bumps, some numbness.
The chance of a true botch is low.

Thats for me to decide and explain in a consult with scans

^

Imagine being retarded. Its not a meme, we have done it successfully which no one else living can say.

Chance I respond is now 0. Go somewhere else (Oh there is no where else, too bad for you.)

Never scammed anyone and you wont find a lower botch rate for these surgeries.

I am the only person who has ever facilitated a successful non syndrome LeFort 2 in the modern day through my planning and custom system. But keep being a disrespectful idiot with expectations for perfection 100% of the time. Really, keep looking.

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This was aura ngl

 

[Chasingthedream569]

Burak or Comert right now. So far so good.


As if you can do it anywhere else?

"Don't do it with the most experienced service who invented the current methods"

Retard take.

BRO, STOP REPLYING TO ME, you are a botcher who works with turkish doctors who are not certified surgeons and don't even bother for patients well being or health, stop replying to me go advertise somewhere else, anyone who is planning on doing surgery with him, don't take my word , just search this guy and the patients who has been botched by him.