How significant is facial growth after 14

[Aqualad]

I’m asking because my face looks masculine and shit but I still look like a child, idk how to explain it I just don’t look fully grown

 

[kebab]

Rope

 

[Petsmart]

Facial growth after 14 is super significant, I’d say 17-18 is where you mostly see how masculine your face finally gets

 

[Deleted member 39838]

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very late bloomer tho

 

[Aqualad]

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You had to be late bloomer in puberty because you look 8 in the first pic

 

[Aqualad]

very late bloomer tho

Lmfao you said this right as I put that reply so nvm

 

[GabachoCopium]

I’m asking because my face looks masculine and shit but I still look like a child, idk how to explain it I just don’t look fully grown

at 14 i was already 6’0 with a sharp masculine jaw, i think you’re just genetic garbage that needs to rope

 

[Deleted member 39838]

You had to be late bloomer in puberty because you look 8 in the first pic

being such a late bloomer is probably the reason i ended up on this forum tbh. imagine looking like that ur freshman year of high school

 

[Aqualad]

at 14 i was already 6’0 with a sharp masculine jaw, i think you’re just genetic garbage that needs to rope

Did you not read the title nigger? I do have a sharp jaw, I just don’t look like an adult. you have a huge ego for someone rotting on an incel forum

 

[GabachoCopium]

Did you not read the title nigger? I do have a sharp jaw, I just don’t look like an adult. you have a huge ego for someone rotting on an incel forum

we are both on an incel forum so don’t even come at me like that buddy

 

[Aqualad]

being such a late bloomer is probably the reason i ended up on this forum tbh. imagine looking like that ur freshman year of high school

You look good rn, but if I looked like you at 14 I would have killed myself from all the bullying I would get. Niggas in my highschool are 6’1 and still get bullied somehow

 

[plukee]

at 14 i was already 6’0 with a sharp masculine jaw, i think you’re just genetic garbage that needs to rope

Did you grow any taller cause people who were 6ft at 13-14 usually stop early and grow 2 inches max

 

[plukee]

You look good rn, but if I looked like you at 14 I would have killed myself from all the bullying I would get. Niggas in my highschool are 6’1 and still get bullied somehow

Must be an NT school you go too

 

[GabachoCopium]

Did you grow any taller cause people who were 6ft at 13-14 usually stop early and grow 2 inches max

i was lying i was actually 5’11 at 14, i’m 6’1 now at 17

 

[plukee]

i was lying i was actually 5’11 at 14, i’m 6’1 now at 17

Completely fucking over

 

[GabachoCopium]

Completely fucking over

whatever nigga

 

[plukee]

whatever nigga

If your dad still grew at 19-20 then it probably wont be as over

 

[Aqualad]

we are both on an incel forum so don’t even come at me like that buddy

I’m here because of tiktok (im not an actual incel like you) and I don’t insult peoples looks for no reason to make myself feel better

P.s we can tell you’re not actually 6’0 with a sharp jawline

 

[GabachoCopium]

If your dad still grew at 19-20 then it probably wont be as over

im i’m america so i heightmog like 99% of the guys at my school, it’s just manlet spics here. now obviously if i was in northern europe like you it would literally be so over for me

 

[Aqualad]

Must be an NT school you go too

I go to a school in Florida. That’s where all the suburban “gangsters” are

 

[plukee]

I go to a school in Florida. That’s where all the suburban “gangsters” are

i had a shit life but god id be brutalised if i lived in florida as an aspie

 

[hypernormie]

It’s interesting.

For example as a kid I was very cute and was told I was good looking a lot, got girls, was popular in middle school, also voted best looking in the middle school yearbook.

But when I started to hit puberty I looked worse. I look better both pre and post puberty. Prior to puberty my facial structure was nice looking because everything was balanced. Then puberty hit and my bones started growing and threw my facial proportions off.

Post puberty everything grew in evenly and now I’m considered classically handsome.

Just something I noticed reflecting on how I was treated during those times and also looking at photos of myself.

I was never ugly but I wasn’t handsome during puberty. My nose looked too big for my face, my chin was small, my cheekbones were flat, at one point my left cheekbone was noticeably larger than my right one, my brow ridge was too big for my face, etc. after puberty my bones grew and restored harmony to my facial proportions.

You don’t know how good looking you are until after puberty.

 

[GabachoCopium]

I’m here because of tiktok (im not an actual incel like you) and I don’t insult peoples looks for no reason to make myself feel better

P.s we can tell you’re not actually 6’0 with a sharp jawline
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she’s hot ngl

 

[Aqualad]

It’s interesting.

For example as a kid I was very cute and was told I was good looking a lot, got girls, was popular in middle school, also voted best looking in the middle school yearbook.

But when I started to hit puberty I looked worse. I look better both pre and post puberty. Prior to puberty my facial structure was nice looking because everything was balanced. Then puberty hit and my bones started growing and threw my facial proportions off.

Post puberty everything grew in evenly and now I’m considered classically handsome.

Just something I noticed reflecting on how I was treated during those times and also looking at photos of myself.

I was never ugly but I wasn’t handsome during puberty. My nose looked too big for my face, my chin was small, my cheekbones were flat, at one point my left cheekbone was noticeably larger than my right one, my brow ridge was too big for my face, etc. after puberty my bones grew and restored harmony to my facial proportions.

You don’t know how good looking you are until after puberty.

That is interesting, never heard of someone growing disproportionally. How much dopamine did you get in middle school knowing you were voted best looking, and how did you end up here…

 

[9cel]

Facial growth after 14 is super significant, I’d say 17-18 is where you mostly see how masculine your face finally gets

Lifefuel for me my aesthetic triangle is literally like this cheekbones too far back from chin

 

[hypernormie]

That is interesting, never heard of someone growing disproportionally. How much dopamine did you get in middle school knowing you were voted best looking, and how did you end up here…

Middle school was fun so probably a lot of dopamine. I had girlfriends and sexual experiences (playing with tits, handjobs, etc.) but didn’t lose my virginity until freshman year of high school although I had the opportunity to do it in 8th grade. It wasn’t until high school that I realized I could just take a girl somewhere private and have sex. In 8th grade I think I was just too nervous to go all the way.

I was popular in middle school so that gave me dopamine but in HS I wasn’t really a popular kid at first, I hung out with popular kids but I wasn’t at the top of the hierarchy and didn’t understand how to compete for those positions, in middle school it was more luck and talent that put me at the top. I didn’t have to think about why I was there. It was only after noticing the dominance hierarchy and meeting kids a lot cooler than me that I realized my time in HS would be worse if I didn’t figure it out. Meaning I would have less access to girls.

I started thinking a lot about how to improve myself and not get mogged by more popular kids. It wasn’t very structured, just a rudimentary impulse that something was wrong. I would attribute this to my rise in testosterone during the time coupled with my previous experiences in middle school which solidified in my mind that I was being valued at less than my actual worth.

The transformative experience was when my oneitis at the time passed me up for another guy on two separate occasions. This led me to depression and neuroticism which a close friend of mine noticed. To try and help me out of my slump, he put me on to PUA and we started going out and doing cold approaches. In doing so I became very aware of my social flaws and actively began working on fixing them which translated into a rise in popularity among my peers at school. I became funny, more socially aware, more calm due to constantly putting myself in uncomfortable situations via cold approach, etc.

I was consistently working out, meditating, reading, and doing pick up. I also gave up porn and masturbation at the time. This was before the nofap movement became popular. I had realized that porn and masturbation were stunting my potential and drive to succeed.

By the end of HS I was one of the popular kids and had freshman groupies. My oneitis, who ended up crawling back to me once she saw how cool I was even told me once that she had been in a bathroom and overheard girls talking about how attractive I was.

My face had also mostly grown into maturity by senior year which coupled with my socially dominant personality, added to my popularity.

My lopsided development is weird though. I haven’t seen it happen to many people so I figured I’d mention it. It’s the main reason I wasn’t good looking for most of high school. For most people if they end up with good bones, it usually happens all at once in a sudden transformation. My development went a long a weird trajectory where I had some mogger features way before I had a fully mogger face. Idk how much of that was directly related to my increased competitiveness and therefore heightened testosterone + dopamine exposure but I think it had some effect. No doubt my genetics played a large role in the motivation to begin with. I’m naturally highly socially competitive and react very negatively to status infringements.

I found this site by following the PUA>red pill>mgtow>blackpill pipeline and took an interest because this information gave me a competitive advantage in the dating market.

I’m not really interested in the dating market anymore though I’m on this website for entertainment/sharing my experiences with the blackpill as a good looking slayer.

 

[MaghrebGator]

Depends on the person but important enough to be able to ascend several tiers in rating.

Losing chubby cheeks, growing bones, it's all part of the process

Look at the most handsome man currently before and after. Went from Chadlite to Chad in a matter of 2 or 3 years

 

[Aqualad]

Middle school was fun so probably a lot of dopamine. I had girlfriends and sexual experiences (playing with tits, handjobs, etc.) but didn’t lose my virginity until freshman year of high school although I had the opportunity to do it in 8th grade. It wasn’t until high school that I realized I could just take a girl somewhere private and have sex. In 8th grade I think I was just too nervous to go all the way.

I was popular in middle school so that gave me dopamine but in HS I wasn’t really a popular kid at first, I hung out with popular kids but I wasn’t at the top of the hierarchy and didn’t understand how to compete for those positions, in middle school it was more luck and talent that put me at the top. I didn’t have to think about why I was there. It was only after noticing the dominance hierarchy and meeting kids a lot cooler than me that I realized my time in HS would be worse if I didn’t figure it out. Meaning I would have less access to girls.

I started thinking a lot about how to improve myself and not get mogged by more popular kids. It wasn’t very structured, just a rudimentary impulse that something was wrong. I would attribute this to my rise in testosterone during the time coupled with my previous experiences in middle school which solidified in my mind that I was being valued at less than my actual worth.

The transformative experience was when my oneitis at the time passed me up for another guy on two separate occasions. This led me to depression and neuroticism which a close friend of mine noticed. To try and help me out of my slump, he put me on to PUA and we started going out and doing cold approaches. In doing so I became very aware of my social flaws and actively began working on fixing them which translated into a rise in popularity among my peers at school. I became funny, more socially aware, more calm due to constantly putting myself in uncomfortable situations via cold approach, etc.

I was consistently working out, meditating, reading, and doing pick up. I also gave up porn and masturbation at the time. This was before the nofap movement became popular. I had realized that porn and masturbation were stunting my potential and drive to succeed.

By the end of HS I was one of the popular kids and had freshman groupies. My oneitis, who ended up crawling back to me once she saw how cool I was even told me once that she had been in a bathroom and overheard girls talking about how attractive I was.

My face had also mostly grown into maturity by senior year which coupled with my socially dominant personality, added to my popularity.

My lopsided development is weird though. I haven’t seen it happen to many people so I figured I’d mention it. It’s the main reason I wasn’t good looking for most of high school. For most people if they end up with good bones, it usually happens all at once in a sudden transformation. My development went a long a weird trajectory where I had some mogger features way before I had a fully mogger face. Idk how much of that was directly related to my increased competitiveness and therefore heightened testosterone + dopamine exposure but I think it had some effect. No doubt my genetics played a large role in the motivation to begin with. I’m naturally highly socially competitive and react very negatively to status infringements.

I found this site by following the PUA>red pill>mgtow>blackpill pipeline and took an interest because this information gave me a competitive advantage in the dating market.

I’m not really interested in the dating market anymore though I’m on this website for entertainment/sharing my experiences with the blackpill as a good looking slayer.

Damn man, I’m just gonna tell you right now you’re extremely lucky and things have changed drastically. I’m in sophomore year and nothing is how you described. There are no “cool kids” and almost 95% of people are virgins and/or don’t even talk to girls. There are definitely a handful of kids that do shit you mentioned such as handjobs and have sex etc, but nowadays it’s rare. It’s hard to describe, but everyone is kind of antisocial and highschool is boring as fuck.

Honestly all of this happened after the pandemic, things were similar to how you described them before 2020 rolled around.

Btw, do you have any advice for someone in highschool?

 

[Aqualad]

i had a shit life but god id be brutalised if i lived in florida as an aspie

Yeah it’s pretty bad. I was 5’11.5 my 8th year and NT (it’s Florida I heightmog all the Cubans) so I was towering over niggas and getting bullied at the same time. Mind you I wasn’t ugly I just didn’t know how to stand up for myself

 

[Aqualad]

i had a shit life but god id be brutalised if i lived in florida as an aspie

One of my shorter friends got taken into a bathroom and got his nose broken by the wannabe gangsters and they recorded it all and posted it on the Snapchat school story too.

Don’t go to Florida it’s full of niggers

 

[hypernormie]

Damn man, I’m just gonna tell you right now you’re extremely lucky and things have changed drastically. I’m in sophomore year and nothing is how you described. There are no “cool kids” and almost 95% of people are virgins and/or don’t even talk to girls. There are definitely a handful of kids that do shit you mentioned such as handjobs and have sex etc, but nowadays it’s rare. It’s hard to describe, but everyone is kind of antisocial and highschool is boring as fuck.

Honestly all of this happened after the pandemic, things were similar to how you described them before 2020 rolled around.

Btw, do you have any advice for someone in highschool?

Yeah I was recently wondering how high school must be nowadays because of another poster on here talking about their experience. I graduated in 2015 but seeing how quickly the world has changed I figured the average school experience for teens has been affected. I assumed the rampant cucking kids with rules and shit (pandemic, lgbtq acceptance, feminism, etc.) + social media was going to create problems.

My advice for high school kids is to aggressively find out what you’re good/enjoy + your general strengths and focus on them young and don’t give too much weight to the high school experience. Do good in school if you can and try to get into a good college for something you think is valuable. you will not care about how popular you were in high school once you leave. Yes some value is gained from the socialization but the self esteem from being better than others at something is more valuable than making a bunch of friends in school and being “popular.” Either way being competent at something will naturally bring you into social groups of people who share your values rather than the social groups in high school that tend to be focused more on propinquity than actually liking the other person on some deep level. Doubly so, being good at something will help you find social groups in school if others also share your interests. It will also bring you real self esteem that’s not affected by whether or not people like you.

Don’t worry about not being a cool kid. There is very limited value in it. Having tons of sex is also not all it’s cracked up to be. Better to have some experience and try to find a girl who actually shares your interests and has a compatible personality than slaying a bunch of chicks. Or disregard chicks altogether if you can. You don’t need a relationship to be happy especially not when you’re young unless you want kids and if you decide to have kids you will need money and stability to do so which you can start working on now. I won’t fault anyone though for wanting a relationship if they haven’t experienced it.

If I knew what I knew now in high school I would have focused more on becoming a valuable person in some tangible way that can bring me monetary benefits rather than social ones. The social benefits of being popular if there are any are better found in college and mostly if you get into a good college.

for example I was pursuing being a comic book artist since a young age but got distracted with becoming popular in school leading to leaving school with less skill than I could have had and all I got for it was a slightly higher sense of confidence in social situations. Most of that confidence came for the most part too from doing pick up, not being popular. I also became really good at skateboarding but started too late to really go anywhere with it so there’s that. have fun but focus on yourself for the most part. It’s a cold world and you want to enter it with the best start possible, best if you enter it ahead of your peers who were more focused on the immediate moment.

 

[Luffymaxxing]

 

[Aqualad]

Yeah I was recently wondering how high school must be nowadays because of another poster on here talking about their experience. I graduated in 2015 but seeing how quickly the world has changed I figured the average school experience for teens has been affected. I assumed the rampant cucking kids with rules and shit (pandemic, lgbtq acceptance, feminism, etc.) + social media was going to create problems.

My advice for high school kids is to aggressively find out what you’re good/enjoy + your general strengths and focus on them young and don’t give too much weight to the high school experience. Do good in school if you can and try to get into a good college for something you think is valuable. you will not care about how popular you were in high school once you leave. Yes some value is gained from the socialization but the self esteem from being better than others at something is more valuable than making a bunch of friends in school and being “popular.” Either way being competent at something will naturally bring you into social groups of people who share your values rather than the social groups in high school that tend to be focused more on propinquity than actually liking the other person on some deep level. Doubly so, being good at something will help you find social groups in school if others also share your interests. It will also bring you real self esteem that’s not affected by whether or not people like you.

Don’t worry about not being a cool kid. There is very limited value in it. Having tons of sex is also not all it’s cracked up to be. Better to have some experience and try to find a girl who actually shares your interests and has a compatible personality than slaying a bunch of chicks. Or disregard chicks altogether if you can. You don’t need a relationship to be happy especially not when you’re young unless you want kids and if you decide to have kids you will need money and stability to do so which you can start working on now. I won’t fault anyone though for wanting a relationship if they haven’t experienced it.

If I knew what I knew now in high school I would have focused more on becoming a valuable person in some tangible way that can bring me monetary benefits rather than social ones. The social benefits of being popular if there are any are better found in college and mostly if you get into a good college.

for example I was pursuing being a comic book artist since a young age but got distracted with becoming popular in school leading to leaving school with less skill than I could have had and all I got for it was a slightly higher sense of confidence in social situations. Most of that confidence came for the most part too from doing pick up, not being popular. I also became really good at skateboarding but started too late to really go anywhere with it so there’s that. have fun but focus on yourself for the most part. It’s a cold world and you want to enter it with the best start possible, best if you enter it ahead of your peers who were more focused on the immediate moment.

Thanks for the advice, I screenshotted.

Unfortunately I was diagnosed with depression a couple of months ago, I find everything I do boring. The girl I had a crush on liked me back and I felt nothing (that’s when I knew I was mentally retarded)

Hopefully in a year or two when the teenage hormones leave again I can find what I enjoy doing and focus on that.

 

[hypernormie]

Thanks for the advice, I screenshotted.

Unfortunately I was diagnosed with depression a couple of months ago, I find everything I do boring. The girl I had a crush on liked me back and I felt nothing (that’s when I knew I was mentally retarded)

Hopefully in a year or two when the teenage hormones leave again I can find what I enjoy doing and focus on that.

That’s interesting. I’m not too knowledgeable on depression but someone your age shouldn’t be experiencing it without having gone through some significant life challenges that warrant that kind of response. That’s very odd.

Do your best to self improve. I’m no doctor but I believe depression without any observable cause is not normal and probably has a lot to do with just lacking anything valuable in life to motivate you and keep your spirits up. I’m also not prone to depression and am naturally very optimistic (probably genetic.) I’m going through legitimate disability right now which has put severe limitations on my future prospects and only experience bouts of depressed feelings about it. I’m mostly just annoyed with not being able to pursue my goals with the same tenacity I used to be able to muster. so again I would focus on improving yourself in the areas you deem meaningful but I also can’t say for sure that doing so will help you because you might just be genetically prone to depression.

Not caring about the girl you like liking you back may just be a sign you don’t really value women and sex. It took me a long time to realize these things weren’t as important as I was being told they were. If that’s the case, as long as you are being authentic to yourself it isn’t a sign something is wrong with you. you might just not care about her as much as you think you should. It’s hard to tell the difference but yeah figuring out your depression is paramount. No high schooler should be feeling depressed unless they are the subject of constant bullying or something. Youth is supposed to be a buffer against such things.

Hit the gym, eat healthy, sleep well, meditate, read, practice some craft or study some subject you think will give you returns. You can’t really say you’re truly depressed if you aren’t doing these things imo. If after doing these things you still can’t manage to find joy in life then yeah you might just be unlucky.