How to get a more vertical ramus if yours is already long?

[Deleted member 3573]

My ramus is already a good length and my jaw is wide from the front. However, I have a slightly more diamond shaped jawed instead of it being squared which does give it good angularity but not that wider mid-mandible look. Is it possible to achieve a more vertical ramus and in turn, and more square shaped face? My ramus is slanted and the gonial angle isn't quite as low as I'd like

 

[MisterMercedes]

Jaw implant.

 

[Deleted member 3573]

Jaw implant.

not an option bro. My jaw is already wide so i'd look comical

 

[MisterMercedes]

I thought you said you wanted a wider mid-mandible.

 

[Deleted member 3573]

I thought you said you wanted a wider mid-mandible.

Implant would work. But wouldn't the gonions get too wide?

 

[MisterMercedes]

Implant would work. But wouldn't the gonions get too wide?

Depends on how wide they are now. If they’re as wide as your bizygomatic, and you’re just trying to lower your gonial angle, you could just get a small, angle implant that would give you the vertical ramus. However, if your jaw isn’t as wide as your bizygomatic, you can afford to widen it a bit.

 

[MisterMercedes]

Depends on how wide they are now. If they’re as wide as your bizygomatic, and you’re just trying to lower your gonial angle, you could just get a small, angle implant that would give you the vertical ramus. However, if your jaw isn’t as wide as your bizygomatic, you can afford to widen it a bit.

Hard to say without pictures.

 

[Deleted member 3573]

Hard to say without pictures.

Right now, my bigonial is like over 90% of my bizygomatic but not quite as wide. It looks pretty wide and harmonious as it is though and the small ramus implant seems very nice and easy to get. Where are some result pics of that? An entire jaw implant would be more invasive obviously. Does msdo affect the mid mandible?

 

[MisterMercedes]

Right now, my bigonial is like over 90% of my bizygomatic but not quite as wide. It looks pretty wide and harmonious as it is though and the small ramus implant seems very nice and easy to get. Where are some result pics of that? An entire jaw implant would be more invasive obviously. Does msdo affect the mid mandible?

Don’t know what MSDO is. I don’t think ramus implants exist. Jaw angle implants exist, because making the ramus more vertical is going to affect where the mandible body meets it. In other words, lowering your gonial angle will make your jaw sit lower/be more square.

 

[Asetric]

u need to rotate the maxilla so the jaw angle is lower

 

[Deleted member 2621]

Send pics but it sounds like you might need bigger masseters

 

[Deleted member 3573]

Don’t know what MSDO is. I don’t think ramus implants exist. Jaw angle implants exist, because making the ramus more vertical is going to affect where the mandible body meets it. In other words, lowering your gonial angle will make your jaw sit lower/be more square.

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This is perfect. I only need a small implant though

 

[MisterMercedes]

u need to rotate the maxilla so the jaw angle is lower

Or just get a jaw implant for a couple thousand.

 

[MisterMercedes]

This is perfect. I only need a small implant though

I’m kind of in the same situation. I have a wide jaw but the ramus isn’t 90 degrees and the body slopes down. I plan to get an implant that makes it more angular and sit lower.

 

[Deleted member 3573]

Send pics but it sounds like you might need bigger masseters

Here it is

 

[Deleted member 2621]

Here it is

You chew predominantly on your right side?


btw your jaw is actually pretty good. always room for improvement tho obvsly

 

[Deleted member 3573]

You chew predominantly on your right side?


btw your jaw is actually pretty good. always room for improvement tho obvsly

I don't know honestly. Obvsly it's not perfectly symmetrical. I just wanna get it even better although my jaw already gets complements

 

[Deleted member 2621]

I don't know honestly. Obvsly it's not perfectly symmetrical. I just wanna get it even better although my jaw already gets complements

chew on your left side and get a palatal expander

 

[Deleted member 3573]

chew on your left side and get a palatal expander

So would getting mse and Msdo help me? My cheekbones do protrude a bit already so it'd be nice to improve that. Does msdo improve mid mandible?