how to get a palate expander/alternatives (no copes)

[MA_ascender]

can I 3d print one? i cant get an ortho to give me one

 

[MA_ascender]

@DalitBoss cause thread got nuked

 

[Deleted member 45794]

can I 3d print one? i cant get an ortho to give me one

IDK how that works so I can't help you here man, sorry

 

[asdvek]

can I 3d print one? i cant get an ortho to give me one

no way.

 

[MA_ascender]

no way.

brutal

 

[Litekiller11]

can you buy it online ?
just go to every ortho you see in the city and ask them if they have it

 

[saynotoshredding]

can I 3d print one? i cant get an ortho to give me one

I considered 3D printing one, invisalign have done this recently:

https://www.invisalign.com/palatal-expander

It is possible but will take a good amount of work to achieve.

Standard 3D printing materials like PLA, ABS, PETG won't cut it as they lack the compressive strength required. Nylon 12 and PEEK are both strong enough and are biocompatible, although they are both very difficult to print. Invisalign keep the material they're using proprietary, however it's likely to just be one of these.

This just leaves the issue of design.


The invisalign expander benefits from hires 3D scans of the teeth, and the expander sort of latches onto them to hold itself into place. This is achievable with 3D prints, but you need to get a decent map of your teeth.

One way to do this is with a gumshield, simply mold it into place then somehow get a scan of it.


It's something I wanted to look into as a project in the coming months, if there's enough interest in it then I'll definitely make it available to the looksmaxxing community.

 

[nor11]

if youre older then 15-16 toothborne expander wont do much you would need marpe or rpe(not bone borne but works if your 18-19)

 

[FutureSlayer]

no way to do it by urself. I mean there’s a guy who DIYed it but he was a dentist school student

 

[FutureSlayer]

I considered 3D printing one, invisalign have done this recently:

https://www.invisalign.com/palatal-expander

It is possible but will take a good amount of work to achieve.

Standard 3D printing materials like PLA, ABS, PETG won't cut it as they lack the compressive strength required. Nylon 12 and PEEK are both strong enough and are biocompatible, although they are both very difficult to print. Invisalign keep the material they're using proprietary, however it's likely to just be one of these.

This just leaves the issue of design.


The invisalign expander benefits from hires 3D scans of the teeth, and the expander sort of latches onto them to hold itself into place. This is achievable with 3D prints, but you need to get a decent map of your teeth.

One way to do this is with a gumshield, simply mold it into place then somehow get a scan of it.


It's something I wanted to look into as a project in the coming months, if there's enough interest in it then I'll definitely make it available to the looksmaxxing community.

that just moves teeth and your lower jaw must be significantly wider tho. Doesn’t do anything to the palate

 

[saynotoshredding]

that just moves teeth and your lower jaw must be significantly wider tho. Doesn’t do anything to the palate

It doesn't move the teeth, they're just used to hold it in place vertically. The pressure is still applied laterally to the soft palate.

 

[MA_ascender]

if youre older then 15-16 toothborne expander wont do much you would need marpe or rpe(not bone borne but works if your 18-19)

im 15.25

 

[MA_ascender]

can you buy it online ?
just go to every ortho you see in the city and ask them if they have it

i already went to 3 my parents wont let me. they say i dont need it but its just a jew plot to sell braces

 

[ErbCel]

This is interesting.

Why do you want to DIY it? For budget reasons?

The invisalign expander seems interesting too. There was a thread with a bunch of doctors that did palate expansion and orthotropic appliances all around the world. If money isn't a problem why not go for that? I was hesitating in between travelling to get ALF or just going for invisalign but the invisalign palate expander is making me reconsider.

 

[MA_ascender]

This is interesting.

Why do you want to DIY it? For budget reasons?

The invisalign expander seems interesting too. There was a thread with a bunch of doctors that did palate expansion and orthotropic appliances all around the world. If money isn't a problem why not go for that? I was hesitating in between travelling to get ALF or just going for invisalign but the invisalign palate expander is making me reconsider.

doctors wont give me one

 

[khaleejicel]

can I 3d print one? i cant get an ortho to give me one

 

[nor11]

im 15.25

you can try. it wont give much aesthetic benefit anyways. if you need better midface just do marpe/mse any doc would make you wear rpe at your age tho

 

[MA_ascender]

you can try. it wont give much aesthetic benefit anyways. if you need better midface just do marpe/mse any doc would make you wear rpe at your age tho

i need wider palate and smile tbh but no doctor will give it to me

 

[BBCcel]

if youre older then 15-16 toothborne expander wont do much you would need marpe or rpe(not bone borne but works if your 18-19)

I have one currently in my mouth have to wait for results though since bones will start to pop at 4-6

 

[MA_ascender]

I have one currently in my mouth have to wait for results though since bones will start to pop at 4-6View attachment 3067616

How did u convince them brah

 

[BBCcel]

How did u convince them brah

I just said that my toungue was uncomfortable. I plan on using a bio bloc or agga next to get forward growth

 

[nor11]

i need wider palate and smile tbh but no doctor will give it to me

how wide is your palate? a lot of docs would just extract teeth instead of expanding the palate search some on the internet, subreddits, it also depends on the country you live in

 

[ErbCel]

doctors wont give me one

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[MA_ascender]

how wide is your palate? a lot of docs would just extract teeth instead of expanding the palate search some on the internet, subreddits, it also depends on the country you live in

i dont need braces i just have mild crowding on my lower set of teeth and a narrow smile

 

[Deleted member 78207]

nigga your local orthodontics has one, just ask them and tell them you have breathing problems

 

[Deleted member 84661]

Dont 3d print one nigga gonna fuck your face up trust me gonna become asymmetric asf go to a place that does it

 

[alpslover]

can I 3d print one? i cant get an ortho to give me one

DIY it and you'll fuck up your teeth/mouth, say ur gonna kys if u dont get one