How to measure gonial angle?

[Deleted member 3202]

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[Wincel]

Protractor.

 

[Deleted member 3202]

Protractor.

Another thing, I heard someone say a short chin is a sign of a low gonial angle, is that true?

 

[Wincel]

Another thing, I heard someone say a short chin is a sign of a low gonial angle, is that true?

That kinda makes sense

 

[Deleted member 3202]

That kinda makes sense

So if that's true wouldn't the bone smashing technique under the chin/mandible improve the gonial angle?

 

[Wincel]

So if that's true wouldn't the bone smashing technique under the chin/mandible improve the gonial angle?

No, its just an indicator.

Example: Naturally speaking straight teeth are an indicator of an attractive face but if you straighten teeth your face wont become more attractive

 

[Deleted member 3202]

No, its just an indicator.

Example: Naturally speaking straight teeth are an indicator of an attractive face but if you straighten teeth your face wont become more attractive

Oh I see, but just incase, is there a way to improve the gonial angle?

No, its just an indicator.

Example: Naturally speaking straight teeth are an indicator of an attractive face but if you straighten teeth your face wont become more attractive

Oh wait! Didn't you say that the palate expander + headgear could change my gonial angle?

 

[Wincel]

Oh I see, but just incase, is there a way to improve the gonial angle?

Oh wait! Didn't you say that the palate expander + headgear could change my gonial angle?

What is improvement? According to some studies the ideal is 140 degrees but sharpness matters more than the angle. Orthotropically something closer to 90 degrees is a good sign, but not the best looking. You can try precision bonesmashing on the gonion to make it sharper but I can't say how that would turn out.

Generally, to increase the gonial angle, move the maxilla downward

To decrease the gonial angle, move the maxilla upward

People also need to understand Mew's advice and logic isn't automatically what looks the best, its more what is natural, which most of the time is also what looks the best but not for gonial angles.

 

[Peachy]

Typically, the longer the ramus, the lower the gonial angle. If you have a decent ramus (most guys don't even have one), then your gonial is most likely fine.

 

[Wincel]

Oh wait! Didn't you say that the palate expander + headgear could change my gonial angle?

Yes, it will decrease it which might be good or bad depending upon where you are now but 1. it will only get sharper and that's what matters 2. its not worth it to not make yourself look better everywhere else because of a number (140) All the number measurements in looks theory are a huge cope except for dick size, shoulder width, and height

 

[Deleted member 3202]

What is improvement? According to some studies the ideal is 140 degrees but sharpness matters more than the angle. Orthotropically something closer to 90 degrees is a good sign, but not the best looking. You can try precision bonesmashing on the gonion to make it sharper but I can't say how that would turn out.

Generally, to increase the gonial angle, move the maxilla downward

To decrease the gonial angle, move the maxilla upward

People also need to understand Mew's advice and logic isn't automatically what looks the best, its more what is natural, which most of the time is also what looks the best but not for gonial angles.

I'm guessing mine is around 90-110, but I thought 115-130 was the best, if so that's a relief.

Typically, the longer the ramus, the lower the gonial angle. If you have a decent ramus (most guys don't even have one), then your gonial is most likely fine.

My ramus is 7.5-8.0 cm but I have bad ear placement.

 

[Deleted member 3202]

Yes, it will decrease it which might be good or bad depending upon where you are now but 1. it will only get sharper and that's what matters 2. its not worth it to not make yourself look better everywhere else because of a number (140) All the number measurements in looks theory are a huge cope except for dick size, shoulder width, and height

By the way, how long will it take to see results when bone-smashing?

 

[Deleted member 2227]

Just see this photo?

Ideal is 115 ~ 128

 

[Deleted member 3202]

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Just see this photo?

Ideal is 115 ~ 128

Looks like I'm 115, hopefully I'm right.

 

[Wincel]

By the way, how long will it take to see results when bone-smashing?

No clue, first thing you'll see is the swelling, and that depends on how hard you hit. The swelling usually looks pretty good from what I've seen, it will appear as if you are gaining a lot from it but underneath the swelling you will start slowly getting bone gains.

 

[Deleted member 2227]

Looks like I'm 115, hopefully I'm right.

Your jaw looks wide from front?

 

[Wincel]

Looks like I'm 115, hopefully I'm right.

Same angle here

 

[Deleted member 2227]

No clue, first thing you'll see is the swelling, and that depends on how hard you hit. The swelling usually looks pretty good from what I've seen, it will appear as if you are gaining a lot from it but underneath the swelling you will start slowly getting bone gains.

How much of bones is possible to get with bonesmash? (mm)

 

[Deleted member 3202]

Same angle here

But that means I could potentially mess it up with the palate expander, guess it's worth it anyway.

Same angle here

Nearer 102 though when I clench. . . . .

 

[Wincel]

How much of bones is possible to get with bonesmash? (mm)

There isn't a whole lot of math behind this theory yet unfortunately, I'm not an expert on bonesmashing I'm just a guy who found out it works a couple weeks ago. I only started doing it just recently. There are some xray examples in the tennis player study but tennis is far from bonesmashing.

 

[Deleted member 3202]

Your jaw looks wide from front?

Kind of in a way, but you can't see the gonial straight on, like it's curved a little towards the neck.

 

[Wincel]

But that means I could potentially mess it up with the palate expander, guess it's worth it anyway.

Lol u mean the headgear

 

[Deleted member 3202]

Lol u mean the headgear

Yup.

Lol u mean the headgear

How bad is a 1.8-1.9 chin to philtrum ratio?

 

[Anakin]

What is improvement? According to some studies the ideal is 140 degrees but sharpness matters more than the angle. Orthotropically something closer to 90 degrees is a good sign, but not the best looking. You can try precision bonesmashing on the gonion to make it sharper but I can't say how that would turn out.

Generally, to increase the gonial angle, move the maxilla downward

To decrease the gonial angle, move the maxilla upward

People also need to understand Mew's advice and logic isn't automatically what looks the best, its more what is natural, which most of the time is also what looks the best but not for gonial angles.

140 degrees ? tf are you smoking