How to prevent mental health downsides on AIs?

[Napoleon1800]

Title.

@Aryan Incel
@eon
@Org3cel
@Ogionth

 

[eon]

Whats your age

 

[RideTheTiger]

Don’t use it too often and don’t rely on it

 

[Napoleon1800]

Whats your age

5 months from 18

 

[eon]

Almost 18

Why are you using

 

[Napoleon1800]

Why are you using

I have gyno and I’m going to be using test

 

[eon]

I have gyno and I’m going to be using test

Tamoxifen mogs for this purpose

 

[eon]

test

But for test id get on AI

 

[eon]

But tamoxifen for gyno

 

[Napoleon1800]

Tamoxifen mogs for this purpose

wdym? I wanted to prevent further aromatisation because I’m doing 90mg of test a day and reduce gyno though not sure how possible that is but I’ve heard anecdotes of Aromasin doing it

 

[Napoleon1800]

But tamoxifen for gyno

Didn’t MPMD recommend raloxifine for it?

 

[eon]

wdym? I wanted to prevent further aromatisation because I’m doing 90mg of test a day and reduce gyno though not sure how possible that is but I’ve heard anecdotes of Aromasin doing it

Tamoxifen for gyno AI for test

 

[Napoleon1800]

Tamoxifen for gyno AI for test

Use them both in one stack?

 

[eon]

Didn’t MPMD recommend raloxifine for it?

Tamoxifen and Raloxifine are both the first SERMS prescribed for gyno.

Pick whatever floats your boat

 

[Napoleon1800]

Tamoxifen and Raloxifine are both the first SERMS prescribed for gyno.

Pick whatever floats your boat

Ok but what about the original question

 

[eon]

Use them both in one stack?

Yep

 

[eon]

Ok but what about the original question

Maintaining an appropriate hormonal balance is key

 

[Napoleon1800]

Yep

Wouldn’t that crash my e2? Aromasin + SERM together?

 

[kranerman23123]

Title.

@Aryan Incel
@eon
@Org3cel
@Ogionth

What's ai

 

[Napoleon1800]

What's ai

Aromatase inhibitor

Not artificial intelligence

 

[kranerman23123]

This nigga immediately liked my comment wtf

 

[Napoleon1800]

This nigga immediately liked my comment wtf

habit of repping everyone

 

[eon]

Wouldn’t that crash my e2? Aromasin + SERM together?

Binds selectively to estrogen receptors in breast tissues you will be fine.

 

[Greyascension]

But tamoxifen for gyno

Or ralox heh...

 

[stufftodo]

acupuncture is the most well-studied treatment to combat neurocognitive side-effects from ai

helps with joint pain, mental clarity, and memory. though poorer memory on ai could be because of chemo since they run the treatments at the same time

tamo ralox are also good and probably cost less

 

[Greyascension]

Just rarely use it

 

[Greyascension]

Keep your estrogen at the best range for you, get bloodworks to find your personal sweet spot

 

[Napoleon1800]

acupuncture is the most well-studied treatment to combat neurocognitive side-effects from ai

helps with joint pain, mental clarity, and memory. though poorer memory on ai could be because of chemo since they run the treatments at the same time

Ok I don’t have money to do acupuncture jfl

What about stimulants or dopamine agonists

 

[stufftodo]

wait i'll give you the sources

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7883140/
showed non-placebo effects for joint paint ^

and there's another one for neurocognitive benefits but i'll have to find it :

 

[Napoleon1800]

Keep your estrogen at the best range for you, get bloodworks to find your personal sweet spot

I can only do blood work occasionally, my base e2 is 16.6pg/ml but I have gyno for some reason and obviously the test is going to skyrocket my aromatisation so I need to prevent that

 

[stufftodo]

Ok I don’t have money to do acupuncture jfl

What about stimulants or dopamine agonists

student clinics often offer sessions for $20, and smaller businesses can run for $25-$75

also student clinics are more likely to try out new treatment so there's that

 

[Napoleon1800]

student clinics often offer sessions for $20, and smaller businesses can run for $25-$75

also student clinics are more likely to try out new treatment so there's that

Regardless I assume I’d need something that can affect me daily though

 

[eon]

Or ralox heh...

 

[stufftodo]

Ok I don’t have money to do acupuncture jfl

What about stimulants or dopamine agonists

tavapadon and solriamfetol would greatly reduce cognitive side effects, but the source i had shut down this year, i think there's definitely people selling them though.

modafinil and adhd meds are also well-researched, but i've never taken them all 4 listed together

 

[Greyascension]

 

[stufftodo]

also i've seen drugs for cytokine blocking treatment, which is one of the leading theories as to why estrogen causes bone loss/joint pain.

they block cytokine releasing that causes these effects.

tnf is one of the cytokines that are linked to bone loss and there's been research that a tnf inhibitor prevents it, though i'll have to find them

romeosozumab has also been tested for it's efficacy as the strongest bone builder rn for low e2, and it's been helpful. but i heard it hurts ur cardiovascular health a lot

and side note if you do wanna try a stack for this, don't try il-6 or il-1 inhibitors since they're responsible for osteoclast activity (hence causing joint pain)

 

[Nardicus101]

Throw in some Cerebrolysin

 

[Aryan Incel]

Title.

@Aryan Incel
@eon
@Org3cel
@Ogionth

You can’t

 

[LUKE546733]

Title.

@Aryan Incel
@eon
@Org3cel
@Ogionth

Using aromitis inhibitors is the dumbest thing you can possibly do once you stop all the estrogen will just hit you like a truck and you'll fuck up your development and it'll make you retarted

 

[Org3cel]

Title.

@Aryan Incel
@eon
@Org3cel
@Ogionth

Ur gonna fucking die mate, just accept your faith

 

[Whirr22222]

U dont get them unless E2 gets low. And thats not the drug directly causing it, thats just low E2 regardless of what caused it.

 

[bttb]

Using aromitis inhibitors is the dumbest thing you can possibly do once you stop all the estrogen will just hit you like a truck and you'll fuck up your development and it'll make you retarted

Nope

 

[Napoleon1800]

U dont get them unless E2 gets low. And thats not the drug directly causing it, thats just low E2 regardless of what caused it.

well obviously the drug lowers e2 which causes less estrogen in the brain which causes depression

 

[Napoleon1800]

Ur gonna fucking die mate, just accept your faith

live fast die young

 

[Napoleon1800]

also i've seen drugs for cytokine blocking treatment, which is one of the leading theories as to why estrogen causes bone loss/joint pain.

they block cytokine releasing that causes these effects.

tnf is one of the cytokines that are linked to bone loss and there's been research that a tnf inhibitor prevents it, though i'll have to find them

romeosozumab has also been tested for it's efficacy as the strongest bone builder rn for low e2, and it's been helpful. but i heard it hurts ur cardiovascular health a lot

and side note if you do wanna try a stack for this, don't try il-6 or il-1 inhibitors since they're responsible for osteoclast activity (hence causing joint pain)

Thoughts on pregnenolone?

 

[MulletM1chas]

listen to dsbm for free lifefuel

 

[hej1377]

Be carefull with the dose,having a bit too much e2 is better than having a bit to little

 

[VrillFatNoob24]

But tamoxifen for gyno

even if it has been sitting here for longer than a year? might give it a shot to treat mine

 

[guts3]

even if it has been sitting here for longer than a year? might give it a shot to treat mine

No it won't help if the tissue is already fibrotic (if it's squishy it'll work but yours is most likely hard)

 

[Napoleon1800]

No it won't help if the tissue is already fibrotic (if it's squishy it'll work but yours is most likely hard)

Mine is hardish but hurts when I squeeze it is it fibrotic