“HTN” shouldn’t be classified as Normie realistically. It’s literally just a Chadlite Junior.

[CookieGuy]

I feel like it should go like this.


Sub 5 is Very Ugly. Normie is Mid LTN-High MTN. Then there’s HTN. Which is before Chadlite-Chad.

HTN’s are actaully treated quite well in society and especially with good appeal get chad treatment in the real world especially in the United States.

HTN is not NORMIE (I know the N stands for Normie) but it genuinely needs to change.

The difference in treatment between MTN and HTN is unparalleled

 

[keonxmogs]

Agree def. Also if you put a htn normie and a ltn next to each other you’d see why they shouldn’t be considered in the same category

 

[CookieGuy]

Agree def. Also if you put a htn normie and a ltn next to each other you’d see why they shouldn’t be considered in the same category

Brutal but true! Love the example

 

[looksmaxxing223]

true, htns are probably the most attractive people you'll meet IRL

 

[Klasik616]

HTN has a normie face but better ratios or bones, it doesn't stand out that much. Only genetically lucky people should be considered Chad and CL.

 

[XazaqazaX]

Cope. Chadlite/Chad or death.

 

[6ft4]

Several years ago, HTN really just meant being above average with clear separation from a dead average guy but not not necessarily objectively attractive with that description being reserved for Chadlites who were seen as 1/20

Now the definition has changed whereby to enter HTN realm you need to be objectively attractive with the separation from MTN being night and day so HTN is just used to describe what Chadlite used to mean
Chadlite is now seen as less than 1% sometimes 1/200 - 1/500

With this in mind it does actually feel like HTN is closer to being Chadlite Junior than it is to MTN so I agree with your thread

 

[baburam]

Several years ago, HTN really just meant being above average with clear separation from a dead average guy but not not necessarily objectively attractive with that description being reserved for Chadlites who were seen as 1/20

Now the definition has changed whereby to enter HTN realm you need to be objectively attractive with the separation from MTN being night and day so HTN is just used to describe what Chadlite used to mean
Chadlite is now seen as less than 1% sometimes 1/200 - 1/500

With this in mind it does actually feel like HTN is closer to being Chadlite Junior than it is to MTN so I agree with your thread

LTN in US is the avg in real life but MTN is avg in tiktok/Bp/amonglooksmaxxers, I'd say high LTN to low MTN would be avg in most european population but in US mid LTN is what u will encounter the most. Realistically HTN is Top 20%, Chadlite is 5% and Chads are 1% among most looksmaxxers from what I have found but some greycels say HTN is top1%

 

[CookieGuy]

LTN in US is the avg in real life but MTN is avg in tiktok/Bp/amonglooksmaxxers, I'd say high LTN to low MTN would be avg in most european population but in US mid LTN is what u will encounter the most. Realistically HTN is Top 20%, Chadlite is 5% and Chads are 1% among most looksmaxxers from what I have found but some greycels say HTN is top1%

Ratings have gotten harsher now. HTN is top 5% always has been

 

[baburam]

Ratings have gotten harsher now. HTN is top 5% always has been

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[Yuki]

I feel like it should go like this.


Sub 5 is Very Ugly. Normie is Mid LTN-High MTN. Then there’s HTN. Which is before Chadlite-Chad.

HTN’s are actaully treated quite well in society and especially with good appeal get chad treatment in the real world especially in the United States.

HTN is not NORMIE (I know the N stands for Normie) but it genuinely needs to change.

The difference in treatment between MTN and HTN is unparalleled

where im from N stands for Nigger

 

[moredatesmorerapes]

so its chadlitelite

 

[CookieGuy]

so its chadlitelite

HTN is baby’s first Chad

 

[Deleted member 81734]

Legit. pic rel used to be CHAD

 

[Alucard69]

true, htns are probably the most attractive people you'll meet IRL

No, i know 2 chadlites in my school, one of them is tall and insane coloring, night and day from regular HTNs

 

[CookieGuy]

HTN has a normie face but better ratios or bones, it doesn't stand out that much. Only genetically lucky people should be considered Chad and CL.

I am 50/50 on this currently, but I am definitely open to different opinions and ideas so I’m not denying this

 

[truthhurts]

No, i know 2 chadlites in my school, one of them is tall and insane coloring, night and day from regular HTNs

whats their reputation in school? Who they resemble the most?

 

[Alucard69]

whats their reputation in school? Who they resemble the most?

One is a bit shorter and seems a bit antisocial/stoic and rude, so not like that popular or anything, i saw a foid being so clingy after him tho lol.. his ratios are a bit like drago, but too compact maybe. i think his coloring is even better tbh.

One is ironically like a level 2 autist so he's alone pretty much, even tho mogger asf reminds me of a mix between autistic james and vito a bit.

 

[noonespecial]

I feel like it should go like this.


Sub 5 is Very Ugly. Normie is Mid LTN-High MTN. Then there’s HTN. Which is before Chadlite-Chad.

HTN’s are actaully treated quite well in society and especially with good appeal get chad treatment in the real world especially in the United States.

HTN is not NORMIE (I know the N stands for Normie) but it genuinely needs to change.

The difference in treatment between MTN and HTN is unparalleled

Htn is nothing special tons of incel htns out there

 

[CookieGuy]

Htn is nothing special tons of incel htns out there

Probably Non-NT. Even Non-NT Chadlite has trouble, like Vinnie Hacker has mentioned

 

[noonespecial]

Probably Non-NT. Even Non-NT Chadlite has trouble, like Vinnie Hacker has mentioned

Depends on who rates you htn if @Klasik616 does a htn can be incel but if @cytoplasm does it's probably a irl Chad Slayer

 

[CookieGuy]

Depends on who rates you htn if @Klasik616 does a htn can be incel but if @cytoplasm does it's probably a irl Chad Slayer

Your rating is always the middle between the Glazers and the super harsh people I’ve tended to notice

 

[noonespecial]

Your rating is always the middle between the Glazers and the super harsh people I’ve tended to notice

Honestly it's impossible to know, I've gotten countless of ratings by users here and tried to see how I get treated irl by girls. Tried talking to girls. I still can't tell my own looks lvl.

 

[looksmaxxing223]

No, i know 2 chadlites in my school, one of them is tall and insane coloring, night and day from regular HTNs

that's very anecdotal

 

[Alucard69]

that's very anecdotal

There's a big difference between the two, you see HTNs walking streets everyday, without noticing. But you'd struggle finding a chadlite

 

[noonespecial]

There's a big difference between the two, you see HTNs walking streets everyday, without noticing. But you'd struggle finding a chadlite

I see chadlites daily

 

[Alucard69]

I see chadlites daily

Overrate IRL or live in very good looking place, generally chadlites are 1/100s atleast

 

[noonespecial]

Overrate IRL or live in very good looking place, generally chadlites are 1/100s atleast

This is a chadlite imo. Usually see one person a day at that looks lvl

 

[Alucard69]

This is a chadlite imo. Usually see one person a day at that looks lvlView attachment 3238408

Hard to rate oldcels, but doesn't look nowhere near CL to me there

 

[looksmaxxing223]

There's a big difference between the two, you see HTNs walking streets everyday, without noticing. But you'd struggle finding a chadlite

True htns are just attractive guys in a general setting, but chadlites i'd say also includes status. Nobody cares about htns who are nobodies, same for chad+ guys without status. It seems dumb to say chad is the ultimate pinnicle of life yet he has no status on social media, etc. So if we count that in, you'd probably see 1 or 2 guys who are true chadlites, yes.

 

[Alucard69]

True htns are just attractive guys in a general setting, but chadlites i'd say also includes status. Nobody cares about htns who are nobodies, same for chad+ guys without status. It seems dumb to say chad is the ultimate pinnicle of life yet he has no status on social media, etc. So if we count that in, you'd probably see 1 or 2 guys who are true chadlites, yes.

Yeah status is law, but if you saw chad walking in street you'd be much more likely to notice, while HTNs can go unnoticed

 

[looksmaxxing223]

Yeah status is law, but if you saw chad walking in street you'd be much more likely to notice, while HTNs can go unnoticed

if you're an org faggot maybe. If i see a good looking guy i don't think about it much and just move on.

 

[Alucard69]

if you're an org faggot maybe. If i see a good looking i don't think about it much and just move on.

From girls' perspective too (i think)

 

[looksmaxxing223]

From girls' perspective too (i think)

that's only if they get approached, if they don't get approached then it's nothing

 

[truthhurts]

One is a bit shorter and seems a bit antisocial/stoic and rude, so not like that popular or anything, i saw a foid being so clingy after him tho lol.. his ratios are a bit like drago, but too compact maybe. i think his coloring is even better tbh.

One is ironically like a level 2 autist so he's alone pretty much, even tho mogger asf reminds me of a mix between autistic james

You mean James sapphire?

and vito a bit.

 

[Alucard69]

You mean James sapphire?

no, he has the same thing with the lower lip btw, funny thing i noticed. Maybe it's an autistic feature

Autistic James needs to be in PSL GOD tier

He is literally sean opry. Seriously mogs everybody. He even has JB appeal

looksmax.org

 

[Goonerholocaust]

I don't think the classifications are bad I think the standards for who gets in each category has increased to the point where htn is basically chadlite. realistically htn should be somewhere in the top 10% but on here its more like top 2%

 

[noonespecial]

Hard to rate oldcels, but doesn't look nowhere near CL to me there

more like this

 

[Alucard69]

View attachment 3238522more like this

More like this

This is a solid chadlite

 

[noonespecial]

More like this
View attachment 3238524
This is a solid chadlite

That's a chad

 

[Alucard69]

That's a chad

If you want someone on the lower end of the chadlite, orb is one to me. (even though lots say he's HTN)

 

[noonespecial]

If you want someone on the lower end of the chadlite, orb is one to me. (even though lots say he's HTN)

View attachment 3238536

High tier chadlite imo

 

[ihatereddit]

LTN in US is the avg in real life but MTN is avg in tiktok/Bp/amonglooksmaxxers, I'd say high LTN to low MTN would be avg in most european population but in US mid LTN is what u will encounter the most. Realistically HTN is Top 20%, Chadlite is 5% and Chads are 1% among most looksmaxxers from what I have found but some greycels say HTN is top1%

Most people are MTN when leanmaxxed but the average normie is fat

 

[Alucard69]

High tier chadlite imo

Subjectively for me he's higher, but lots of people even think HTN, and he isn't the best looking objectively, so i don't think he's near chad.

Pneumo is a good example of high HTN low cl-ish too

 

[noonespecial]

Subjectively for me he's higher, but lots of people even think HTN, and he isn't the best looking objectively, so i don't think he's near chad.
View attachment 3238545
Pneumo is a good example of high HTN low cl-ish too

Yes low lite

 

[Alucard69]

Yes low lite

Maybe, but he mogs the example you sent i think

 

[noonespecial]

Maybe, but he mogs the example you sent i think

You're right but they are all htn +anyway. Brutally mogs me

 

[Saint Casanova]

The gap between HTN and Chadlite is quite big.

HTN is like having a nice six figure paying career
Chadlite is being a millionaire
Chad is being a multi millionaire.

 

[Alucard69]

You're right but they are all htn +anyway. Brutally mogs me

The guy you sent doesn't really get mogged by pneumo tbh actually, he looks better in motion bad pic, but idk about chadlite, both about HTN+ imo

 

[noonespecial]

The guy you sent doesn't really get mogged by pneumo tbh actually, he looks better in motion bad pic

They're all top 5% gigamoggers