Humans have always been brutal, in fact it was worse before

[Deleted member 4742]

Anthropologist Laila Williamson notes that "Infanticide has been practiced on every continent and by people on every level of cultural complexity, from hunter gatherers to high civilizations, including our own ancestors. Rather than being an exception, then, it has been the rule."

Many Neolithic groups routinely resorted to infanticide in order to control their numbers so that their lands could support them. Joseph Birdsell believed that infanticide rates in prehistoric times were between 15% and 50% of the total number of births,[7] while Laila Williamson estimated a lower rate ranging from 15% to 20%.[3]:66 Both anthropologists believed that these high rates of infanticide persisted until the development of agriculture during the Neolithic Revolution.[8]:19 Comparative anthropologists have calculated that 50% of female newborn babies were killed by their parents during the Paleolithic era.[9]

The children were not necessarily actively killed, but neglect and intentional malnourishment may also have occurred, as proposed by Vicente Lull as an explanation for an apparent surplus of men and the below average height of women in prehistoric Menorca.[11]

The historical Greeks considered the practice of adult and child sacrifice barbarous,[26] however, the exposure of newborns was widely practiced in ancient Greece, it was even advocated by Aristotle in the case of congenital deformity — "As to the exposure of children, let there be a law that no deformed child shall live.”

Marvin Harris estimated that among Paleolithic hunters 23–50% of newborn children were killed. He argued that the goal was to preserve the 0.001% population growth of that time.[160]:15 He also wrote that female infanticide may be a form of population control.[160]:5 Population control is achieved not only by limiting the number of potential mothers; increased fighting among men for access to relatively scarce wives would also lead to a decline in population. For example, on the Melanesian island of Tikopia infanticide was used to keep a stable population in line with its resource base.[6] Research by Marvin Harris and William Divale supports this argument, it has been cited as an example of environmental determinism.

BUT MUH HUMANS WERE BETTER IN NATURAL LIFE MUH CAPITALISM PERVERTED US!!!

 

[looksmaxxed]

soy cucks who worship at the alter of globohomo big pharma tech would be the first to get culled/chucked off the cliff in ancient times

 

[nastynas]

i dont think no one besides dumb social justice warriors with 10 iq disagree on this

 

[Deleted member 4742]

Another sticking point is that the authors clumped all homicides together. But, not all homicides are equal, argues biological anthropologist Richard Wrangham of Harvard. “In the primates, infanticide is undoubtedly the commonest type,” Wrangham told The Atlantic. But humans “kill adults at an exceptionally high rate…. That’s worth stressing in order to avoid readers leaping to the conclusion that there is nothing surprising about human violence. Humans really are exceptional.”

For us humans, the authors predicted a murder rate of two percent at the origin of our species. That’s in line with our primate ancestors. For instance, the researchers calculated that the ancestor of the great apes had a murder rate of about 1.8 percent. From the analysis of humans from 50,000 BC forward, the authors reported that hunter gatherers held that 2 percent murder rate. However, as humans organized into warring bands, tribes, and states, it shot up to as high as 30 percent (with a lot of uncertainty in that estimate).


Our savagery has since subsided. “Rates of homicide in modern societies that have police forces, legal systems, prisons and strong cultural attitudes that reject violence are, at less than 1 in 10,000 deaths (or 0.01 percent), about 200 times lower than the authors’ predictions for our state of nature,” Pagel noted. Thus, the argument that our environment rules our violent ways hasn’t been killed off yet.

Humans’ murder rates explained by primate ancestors, controversial study says

In large evolutionary analysis, humans are violent mammals, but on par with primates.

arstechnica.com

 

[JMax]

Being left to die on a hilltop is less brutal than being put under the knife 30 times so you can be spoonfed by a caretaker until your organs fail.

 

[Blackout.xl]

In terms of killing you outright, we were much more brutal before

However, we don’t need to do that anymore. We just ostracize those who are ugly, short or don’t fit a certain beauty standard, force them into being a wageslave that we can extract tax from and further ostracize them for speaking up about them being mistreated.

 

[Patient A]

Low iq researcher tbh

I learnt that the pyramids were built using copper tools at school

 

[Peachy]

brutal ngl

 

[Ascensionrequired]

BUT MUH HUMANS WERE BETTER IN NATURAL LIFE MUH CAPITALISM PERVERTED US!!!

I disagree. The Spartans might have thrown deformed kids of a mountain which seems brutal, but how would that kid have functioned in a warrior society? He'd get his ass beaten, and he couldn't even compete with others. He'd live a life of humiliation, rejection. Decades of a tormented soul. That's brutal. He should have crashed on the rocks.

 

[Deleted member 685]

brutal ngl