Hunter gatherers were taller than modern humans

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Pre-modern times​

Certain ancient human populations were quite tall, even surpassing the average height of the tallest of modern countries. For instance, certain hunter-gatherer populations living in Europe during the Paleolithic Era and India during the Mesolithic Period averaged heights of around 183 cm (6 ft 0 in) for males, and 172 cm (5 ft 8 in) for females.

Physical remains of people of the Gravettian have revealed that they were tall and relatively slender people. The male height of the Gravettian culture ranged between 179 and 188 centimetres (5 ft 10 in and 6 ft 2 in) tall with an average of 183.5 centimetres (6 ft 0.2 in), which is exceptionally tall not only for that period of prehistory, but for all periods of history.

They were fairly slender and normally weighed between 67–73 kilograms (148–161 lb), although they would likely have had a higher ratio of lean muscle mass compared to body fat in comparison to modern humans as a result of a very physically active and demanding lifestyle.

Human height worldwide sharply declined with the advent of the Neolithic Revolution, likely due to significantly less protein consumption by agriculturalists as compared with hunter-gatherers.

During the Bronze Age, height varied significantly by region. The people of the Indus Valley Civilization were among the tallest in the world, with an average height of 176 cm (5 ft 9 in) for males and 166 cm (5 ft 5 in) for females. The people of Ancient Egypt stood around 167 cm (5 ft 6 in) for males and 157 cm (5 ft 2 in) for females. The Ancient Greeks averaged 166 cm (5 ft 5 in) for males and 154 cm (5 ft 1 in) for females. The Romans were slightly taller, with an average height of 169 cm (5 ft 7 in) for males and 158 cm (5 ft 2 in) for females.

18th century​

In the first half of the eighteenth century, the average height of an English male was 165 cm (5 ft 5 in), and the average height of an Irish male was 168 cm (5 ft 6 in), according to a study by economist John Komlos and Francesco Cinnirella. The estimated mean height of English, German, and Scottish soldiers was 163 cm (5 ft 4 in) − 165 cm (5 ft 5 in) for the period as a whole, while that of Irish was 167 cm (5 ft 6 in). The average height of male slaves and convicts in North America was 171 cm (5 ft 7 in).

Before the mid-nineteenth century, there were cycles in height, with periods of increase and decrease; however, apart from the decline associated with the transition to agriculture, examinations of skeletons show no significant differences in height from the Neolithic Revolution through the early 1800s.

19th century​

In the eighteenth and nineteenth centuries, people of European descent in North America were far taller than those in Europe and were one of the tallest in the world. The original indigenous population of Plains Native Americans was also among the tallest populations of the world at the time. Some studies also suggest that there existed the correlation between the height and the realwage, moreover, the correlation was higher among the less developed countries. The difference in height between children from different social classes was already observed by the age of two.

The average height of Americans and Europeans decreased during periods of rapid industrialization, possibly due to rapid population growth and broad decreases in economic status. This has become known as the early-industrial growth puzzle (in the U.S. context the Antepellum Puzzle). In England during the early nineteenth century, the difference between the average height of English upper-class youth (students of Sandhurst Military Academy) and English working-class youth (Marine Society boys) reached 22 cm (8.7 in), the highest that has been observed.

In general, there were no significant differences in regional height levels throughout the nineteenth century. The only exceptions of this rather uniform height distribution were people in the Anglo-Saxon settlement regions who were taller than the average and people from Southeast Asia with below-average heights. However, at the end of the nineteenth century and in the middle of the first globalization period, heights between rich and poor countries began to diverge. These differences did not disappear in the deglobalization period of the two World wars. In 2014, Baten and Blum found that in the nineteenth century, important determinants of height were the local availability of cattle, meat and milk as well as the local disease environment. In the late twentieth century, however, technologies and trade became more important, decreasing the impact of local availability of agricultural products.

Netherlands​

Data derived from burials show that before 1850, the mean stature of males and females in Leiden, the Netherlands was respectively 167 cm (5 ft 6 in) and 156 cm (5 ft 1 in). The average height of 19-year-old Dutch orphans in 1865 was 160 cm (5 ft 3 in).

From 1830 to 1857, the average height of a Dutch person decreased, even while Dutch real GNP per capita was growing at an average rate of more than 0.5% per year. The worst decline was in urban areas that in 1847, the urban height penalty was 2.5 cm (1.0 in). Urban mortality was also much higher than in rural regions. In 1829, the average urban and rural Dutchman was 164 cm (5 ft 5 in). By 1856, the average rural Dutchman was 162 cm (5 ft 4 in) and urban Dutchman was 158 cm (5 ft 2 in).

In the late nineteenth century, the Netherlands was a land renowned for its short population, but as of 2012 Dutch people were among the world's tallest, with young men averaging 183 cm (6 ft 0 in) tall.
 
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Just jfl at modern cucked humans, just jfl at moden diet, Modern humans are way shorter than hunter gatherers
 
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Introduction of farming and agriculture to humans cucked humanity forever jfl
 
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Are these humans here with us?

If they are so superior how come we wiped them out?
 
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Are these humans here with us?

If they are so superior how come we wiped them out?
We are LITERALLY them bro, they’re a part of our dna, we just cucked ourselves with agriculture and modern diet. Modern way of living is cucked and it is not how we humans are supposed to live.
 
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We are LITERALLY them bro, they’re a part of our dna, we just cucked ourselves with agriculture and modern diet. Modern way of living is cucked and isn’t not how we humans are supposed to live.
We achieved every societal zenith since then.

These tschandala tribes achieved nothing, lived like animals.

Their way of living was eridicated, or why do you think that way of living isn't here anymore?

Any modern society can easily wipe a society out that lives the supposed "superior" way. How can the "inferior" way absolutly annihalte the supposedly superior one?
 
Are these humans here with us?

If they are so superior how come we wiped them out?
we didn't wipe them out, most europeans trace their descent from cro magnons / gravettians (avg height ~5'11). Even in africa the average kiffian was similar in height, some even taller.

the problem with hunter gatherers was farming populations could support more people, so they were out-breeded. Still they raided settlements and fucked the women, probably giving us some Y-DNA
 
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We achieved every societal zenith since then.

These tschandala tribes achieved nothing, lived like animals.

Their way of living was eridicated, or why do you think that way of living isn't here anymore?

Any modern society can easily wipe a society out that lives the supposed "superior" way. How can the "inferior" way absolutly annihalte the supposedly superior one?
That’s literally how we humans are supposed to live bro, you’re going against your own instincts and biology, that’s why you and most modern humans are depressed and short and miserable and malnourished, there’s nothing “good” about this way of life.. It’s all artificial unnatural nonsense. We humans have garbage modern diet and we don’t live and eat like we are supposed to, that’s why modern humans are the most cucked humans to ever life.
 
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That’s literally how we humans are supposed to live bro, you’re going against your own instincts and biology
Maybe tschandala masses (aka Indians and africans) but I like to think the average European has (had) more aristocratic aspirations then living in your own shit in your little tschandala home.
that’s why you and most modern humans are depressed and short and miserable and malroushed
Speak for yourself, I am neither of those things.
 
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Introduction of farming and agriculture to humans cucked humanity forever jfl
Farming is greatest catastrophy of humanity. Caused every shit. Humans should abandon capitalism and Return to hunter life style.
 
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Farming is greatest catastrophy of humanity. Caused every shit. Humans should abandon capitalism and Return to hunter life style.
i dont think @Beastimmung is right, but this is even more stupid. The only reason your alive today is because of the agricultural revolution, and ironically because of 2 german jews in the 1900s who made the haber bosch process (saved 3 billion lives)
 
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i dont think @Beastimmung is right, but this is even more stupid. The only reason your alive today is because of the agricultural revolution, and ironically because of 2 german jews in the 1900s who made the haber bosch process (saved 3 billion lives)
Yes I know what you are trying to say but i already thought through it. 90% of humanity will cease or more will cease to exist when this happens. I only live because of the Agrciltural revolution but i am recognizing that it is bad for humanity and only brings suffering to human lives. Capitalism made us money slaves and has many consequenzes( dont want to explain it all too lazy:feelsbadman:) and These humans wouldbt exist if the Industrial and agricutural Revolution didnt Happen which causes suffering in Long term
 
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i dont think @Beastimmung is right, but this is even more stupid. The only reason your alive today is because of the agricultural revolution, and ironically because of 2 german jews in the 1900s who made the haber bosch process (saved 3 billion lives)
Why cant I Tag you?
 
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i dont think @Beastimmung is right, but this is even more stupid. The only reason your alive today is because of the agricultural revolution, and ironically because of 2 german jews in the 1900s who made the haber bosch process (saved 3 billion lives)
Wym wouldn’t exist, There’s thousands of hunter gatherer tribes still living today and they’re far healthier, have way better bones, facial structure and skull, are taller and live far better than 99.9% of modern humans bro. Just look at Masaai tribe:
 
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Yes I know what you are trying to say but i already thought through it. 90% of humanity will cease or more will cease to exist when this happens. I only live because of the Agrciltural revolution but i am recognizing that it is bad for humanity and only brings suffering to human lives. Capitalism made us money slaves and has many consequenzes( dont want to explain it all too lazy:feelsbadman:) and These humans wouldbt exist if the Industrial and agricutural Revolution didnt Happen which causes suffering in Long term
imagine being a hunter gatherer, high likely to be dead before 15. Even if you make it to 15? 1 in 2 chance you'll make it to 30. Even pre-industrial civilization was utter horseshit, you'd be a serf or peasant working for a lord for entire generations

your living in the BEST era and asking to go back. No disease, no raiding armies, MOST social mobility

the only problem in your life is being an ugly incel, maybe not having a job. That's it
 
imagine being a hunter gatherer, high likely to be dead before 15. Even if you make it to 15? 1 in 2 chance you'll make it to 30. Even pre-industrial civilization was utter horseshit, you'd be a serf or peasant working for a lord for entire generations

your living in the BEST era and asking to go back. No disease, no raiding armies, MOST social mobility

the only problem in your life is being an ugly incel, maybe not having a job. That's it
Pre industrial is also shit. I Like The Hunter Lifestyle. As you Said Not everyone survives but that is just How it works. The Strong survive and life was probably more fullfilling than in this wageslave era
 
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Lol hunter gatherers living to 30 is a common myth that is debunked, they lived as long as modern humans if not longer:

 
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Wym wouldn’t exist, There’s thousands of hunter gatherer tribes still living today and they’re far healthier, have way better bones, are taller and live far better than 99.9% of modern humans bro. Just look at Masaai tribe:

there was less than 1 million people on planet before agricultural revolution btw.

140,000 years of verified human life. 10% of them were born in 1900s, 7% are living right NOW.
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Lol hunter gatherers living to 30 is a common myth that is debunked, they lived as long as modern humans if not longer:

this is just arguing in bad faith, a tiktok is your evidence. Seriously?
 
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Are these humans here with us?

If they are so superior how come we wiped them out?
They weren’t “wiped out” it’s just they stopped being hunters and became farmers
 
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modal lifespan for developed countries is ~85+ btw

thanks for agreeing with me.
Thanks to medicine only. If not for medicine it would be less than 50. and no, even in the most developed countries in earth it’s not 85+, it’s 78-80 at most. And average is 70-75. And all of this thanks to medicine only, not because of our modern diet or lifestyle or anything.
 

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