Hypothyroid results

[Lars]

STILL HYPO ASFUCK

 

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[Lars]

So you can grow?

Maybe i am.gonna call my doc

 

[Cristiano88]

Hey Lars!
Wanted to ask you a few things about the thyroid.
i have some simptoms lately which make me think about my thyroid:
-puffy face(188 and 72kg, lifting weights 5/week), tracking calories and abstaining from.salt
-very poor sleep quality. I wake up tired every day
-very tired during the day also
-have a hard time losing weight(i lost 8kg in 1 year, but according to my calculations should have been more like 12kg)

So i went and did thyroid tests. My doc told me to get tsh(what you have in this pic) and also Ft4 and t3 and the antobodies for Hashimotos. Tsh came a little under the maximum of the normal range while the other 2 came just below the normal range. Hashimoto antibodies came ok.
My doc says it s normal and i am ok.
He says there are just 3 possible causes of hypothyroidism. Cancer(excluded because of ecography), iodine deficiency(which can give you goiter which i don t have) and hashimoto(which i excluded by blood test).

 

[Cristiano88]

My questions are:
1) did your endo declare you hypothyroidic or did you just get along well with him/her and she gave you meds?
2) what other blood tests did you do? Did you exclude hashimoto?
3) were your ft4 and t3 in the normal range?
4) what dose are you taking and what? I assume it is synthetic T4 but i read T3 is possibly better but also more expensive so insurance companies choose to cover T4.

 

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[Dainslief]

Making a mistake taking T4 only, need T3 as well otherwise T4 will get converted to rt3.

Should also stop taking and eat foods low in beta carotene/vitamin A as you have hypothyroidism and therefore vitamin A will inhibit thyroid function.

 

[Lars]

Making a mistake taking T4 only, need T3 as well otherwise T4 will get converted to rt3.

Should also stop taking and eat foods low in beta carotene/vitamin A as you have hypothyroidism and therefore vitamin A will inhibit thyroid function.

i know, i already avoid beta carotene, i am going to call my doc soon and ask about getting t3 otherwise i buy it myself

 

[Lars]

My questions are:
1) did your endo declare you hypothyroidic or did you just get along well with him/her and she gave you meds?
2) what other blood tests did you do? Did you exclude hashimoto?
3) were your ft4 and t3 in the normal range?
4) what dose are you taking and what? I assume it is synthetic T4 but i read T3 is possibly better but also more expensive so insurance companies choose to cover T4.

1.along with them because in their eyes i was subclinical, my grandma has hypothyroism her whole life so explains why i also got it
2. i will look
3. only checked 4 gonna check now again if it is in range
4 50mcg t4 only

 

[Cristiano88]

1.along with them because in their eyes i was subclinical, my grandma has hypothyroism her whole life so explains why i also got it
2. i will look
3. only checked 4 gonna check now again if it is in range
4 50mcg t4 only

Thanks for the answers man, appreciate it.
I forgot to ask you about the heart rate. Did you measure it, by any chance. Mine is consistently between 50 and 57, at rest, ofc.

 

[Cristiano88]

Making a mistake taking T4 only, need T3 as well otherwise T4 will get converted to rt3.

Should also stop taking and eat foods low in beta carotene/vitamin A as you have hypothyroidism and therefore vitamin A will inhibit thyroid function.

As far as i know, and don't quote me on that, Vitamin A inhibits TSH, which he has enough of. So if he were to stop eating any kind of Vit A it would mean his TSH would go even lower which in his case would be bad. Am i missing something?

 

[Jerryterry129]

So that whole thread about ur face leaning from hypo was just placebo lol

 

[Lars]

Thanks for the answers man, appreciate it.
I forgot to ask you about the heart rate. Did you measure it, by any chance. Mine is consistently between 50 and 57, at rest, ofc.

Mine is 70-80 now was 50

 

[Lars]

So that whole thread about ur face leaning from hypo was just placebo lol

I lowered it so less bloating, but still more room to lose even more bloat

 

[Dainslief]

As far as i know, and don't quote me on that, Vitamin A inhibits TSH, which he has enough of. So if he were to stop eating any kind of Vit A it would mean his TSH would go even lower which in his case would be bad. Am i missing something?

TSH increasing/decreasing due to vitamin A is subjective, and TSH doesn't provide true representation of thyroid function.

Search Nutrition detective on YouTube, he goes over vitamin A toxicity in detail, and treats lots of raypeat, western price, carnivore/keto, vegan refugees.

 

[NukethisWorldAlready]

My tyroid have always been 4-4.25 ish. Is that rly a concern? Its right in the norm area, myb slightly above it.
Would you recommend taking pills?

 

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[TsarTsar444]

TSH increasing/decreasing due to vitamin A is subjective, and TSH doesn't provide true representation of thyroid function.

Search Nutrition detective on YouTube, he goes over vitamin A toxicity in detail, and treats lots of raypeat, western price, carnivore/keto, vegan refugees.

No, for hashimoto thyroiditis TSH is the one thats important, and thats the most common cause of thyroiditis. Levothyroxine is more then enough for T3 to get produced because these patients only have elavted tsh and low t3 and t4 from damage of the thyroid.

T4 is only not enough if you have completed thyroid dysfunction, removal of it cause of cancer of severe iodine deficiency.

But people with hashimoto do have the ability to convert the T4 in T3, not in amounts as normal people but they still do if the T4 dose is large enough in comparison to the anti-TPO and current TSH levels

 

[Lawton88]

You can cure hypo naturally with selenium and iodine usually.

 

[Dainslief]

No, for hashimoto thyroiditis TSH is the one thats important, and thats the most common cause of thyroiditis. Levothyroxine is more then enough for T3 to get produced because these patients only have elavted tsh and low t3 and t4 from damage of the thyroid.

T4 is only not enough if you have completed thyroid dysfunction, removal of it cause of cancer of severe iodine deficiency.

But people with hashimoto do have the ability to convert the T4 in T3, not in amounts as normal people but they still do if the T4 dose is large enough in comparison to the anti-TPO and current TSH levels

Regurgitating off textbooks doesn't help anyone. I speak with practical experience.

I speak to people with hashimoto they are not treated based on TSH alone, thyroid antibodies tests are also necessary. And T4 alone isn't good as many people with thyroid dysfunction will also have bad liver function and therefore won't be converting T4 to T3.

 

[Cristiano88]

My tyroid have always been 4-4.25 ish. Is that rly a concern? Its right in the norm area, myb slightly above it.
Would you recommend taking pills?

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It is a concern.
Check your ft4 and ft3 and your antibodies. There are 2 antibodies. Google them.

 

[TsarTsar444]

Regurgitating off textbooks doesn't help anyone. I speak with practical experience.

I speak to people with hashimoto they are not treated based on TSH alone, thyroid antibodies tests are also necessary. And T4 alone isn't good as many people with thyroid dysfunction will also have bad liver function and therefore won't be converting T4 to T3.

Yeah technically anti bodies are the most important thing, but thats hard to really treat if its just plain genetics. Most likely low vit D, stress and inflammatory diet drives it up

 

[Dainslief]

You can cure hypo naturally with selenium and iodine usually.

Hypothyroidism effects every cellular function, how can you assume just taking selenium and iodine alone will be enough to make cells function optimally not normal again? It won't do much to actually resolve thyroid issue, only helps to bring numbers in blood tests to a normal range.

 

[Lawton88]

Hypothyroidism effects every cellular function, how can you assume just taking selenium and iodine alone will be enough to make cells function optimally not normal again? It won't do much to actually resolve thyroid issue, only helps to bring numbers in blood tests to a normal range.

Anecdotal but I cured myself from near hypo and 2 relatives that had to take thyroid prescription pills before. I think those are the 2 things people are lacking usually. Selenium has been depleted big time in food in recent years and most people's diet doesn't have much iodine. Of course you don't want to be low on other things either like magnesium etc

 

[Dainslief]

Anecdotal but I cured myself from near hypo and 2 relatives that had to take thyroid prescription pills before. I think those are the 2 things people are lacking usually. Selenium has been depleted big time in food in recent years and most people's diet doesn't have much iodine. Of course you don't want to be low on other things either like magnesium etc

Yes those nutrients play a significant role but thing is people with hypothyroidism don't absorb much from what they eat, and typically waste minerals, nutrients to produce energy - which is inefficient as well. That's why it's more effective to take thyroid to get out of the stressful metabolism and provide cells energy to function properly.

I recommend you read "Hypothyroidism: The Unsuspected Illness by Broda O. Barnes".