I believe there's far more sexless men than this study assumes

[GreekGenes]

So, there was this study about the "rise of sexless men" which claimed that 30% of men had no sex in a year. (Based on self-reporting by the surveyed men)

I think the year of reference for the study was 2020.

Now, I don't buy this number at all. In fact, i think it's closer to 50%. And there's basically two reasons for that in my opinion:

1) Social desirability bias: Even under anonymous circumstances many people still answer surveys/studies in a way that conforms with what is considered desirable by their environment. Especially for us men, being sexless comes with social stigma. So it's to be expected that more than the 30% that admitted to being sexless are actually sexless.

2) Online Dating Apps are the only objective data we have on matching rates between men and women. And there we can clearly see that about 80% of men are considered ugly and undesirable.
Ofc dating apps do not represent real life 1:1. We do know that some of the men who are considered undesirable on dating apps DO end up with relationships in real life.

These and many other observations (which i won't include here for reasons of brevity) make me believe that the percentage of sexless men is closer to 50% rather than 30%. And i believe that they havent only been sexless for a year, but longer than that.

Thoughts?

 

[TURK-KUN]

I think the actual best way to measure it, is to extrapolate the data we have.

The share of young sexless males went from 10% in 2008 to 28% in 2018. It has been steadily getting worse for over a decade.

If it went from 10% to 28% in 10 years, we can assume that after 6 years now it would be around 40%, if things stayed the same.

But we can't just assume it has gotten that much worse, the effects of online dating might've already stabilized the dating market at this point, I don't think it will get worse infinitely, at some point it will slow down and reach a balancing point and we might already be there.

 

[Deleted member 110759]

Yes. Covid only accelerated things, for sure. Alongside this, I believe we should take into account relationships in terms of stability. Anons in sexless relationships should also count, and these can be older or younger. While at the same time, whorish behavior and sleeping around has increased. So we have an interesting contrast here.

In general, I think dating now is terrible and overall relationships are in the gutter. Truly, even in our hyper connected world, people are more isolated than ever. Which is scary to say the least, and I believe it will only get worse with gen alpha.

 

[fuxkdakikez]

idk it seems like everyone i see is having sex

 

[zerotohero]

Gen Z is hands down the most sexless generation in history. The combination of hypersexualized social media, skyrocketing mental health issues, and the rise of virtual escapism has completely killed genuine human connection.

 

[persuss]

Gen Z is hands down the most sexless generation in history. The combination of hypersexualized social media, skyrocketing mental health issues, and the rise of virtual escapism has completely killed genuine human connection.

weirdly enough it's the most sexless and yet the one with the most sex if you know what im trying to say. either you have a small count or non or you have tons it doesn't seem to be anyone in the middle

 

[zerotohero]

weirdly enough it's the most sexless and yet the one with the most sex if you know what im trying to say. either you have a small count or non or you have tons it doesn't seem to be anyone in the middle

This.

 

[Chadeep]

weirdly enough it's the most sexless and yet the one with the most sex if you know what im trying to say. either you have a small count or non or you have tons it doesn't seem to be anyone in the middle

So Basically one is Incel or Chad. Unlike with Millennials in Which Normies got some action too.

 

[persuss]

This.

kind of like income inequality, the 1% are the ones that have something like 50% of the sex and a big "lower class" have little to non

 

[persuss]

So Basically one is Incel or Chad. Unlike with Millennials in Which Normies got some action too.

yeah like i wrote in a relply to zerotohero

 

[GreekGenes]

Women have never had as much Sex as today

Men never had as little Sex as today

The reason being that women finally get to choose who to fuck completely based on looks and not on social expectations

 

[Ascend_forever]

I think the actual best way to measure it, is to extrapolate the data we have.

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The share of young sexless males went from 10% in 2008 to 28% in 2018. It has been steadily getting worse for over a decade.

If it went from 10% to 28% in 10 years, we can assume that after 6 years now it would be around 40%, if things stayed the same.

But we can't just assume it has gotten that much worse, the effects of online dating might've already stabilized the dating market at this point, I don't think it will get worse infinitely, at some point it will slow down and reach a balancing point and we might already be there.

Based of what info?The dating scene is online along with sex.No looks no interest no convo no sex.The standard of attraction is way higher now.No one pulling in clubs unless it’s a repeat slayer.Women know they can pretty much fuck 90% of all men if they wanted.If she isn’t fucking chadlite or the odd HTN she’s not fucking nobody.

Why can’t it get infinitely worse.? The sub HTN guys are un wanted and the HTN + are getting actively approached by girls.Women literally would kill ugly men. No solution its end game, women are fucking who they want and can fully utilize the freedom of a sex liberal society.