I fucking hate life

[Jack]

My little brother is 3 or 2.5 inches shorter than me and he's 13 almost 14. I recently turned 17 but I'm only 5'7 and a half. I haven't talked to him in about 2 years even though we live in the same household because he found my pornhub folders. My mom was with him when he found the folders on the home computer too, but she doesn't seem like she cares because she never brung it up since it happened. I'm not even gonna lie I'm into kinda kinky shit so you could imagine how awkward it was the first few months.

I haven't talked to him since that happened but I don't really regret it because he acts like a pos indirectly a lot of the time. Like say I'll turn the fan on in my room (we share a room) he will fucking turn the fan off. Another thing he does which pisses me off is he'll wait for me to go to sleep and then close the door when he specifically knows I want it open.
Today he walked on his tippy toes past me and he was almost or about as tall as me. He did this to fucking trigger me and I know it.

I literally didn't eat breakfast or lunch since middle school, I just started bringing a sandwich to school this year which is senior year. I haven't talked to anyone since middle school, no joke. I have no fucking copes. If my brother becomes even a centimeter taller than me when he gets older I swear I'll fucking neck.

 

[mr contemptuous]

why dont u beat him up?

 

[Jack]

why dont u beat him up?

I think about that everyday but then I remember I would get all of my shit taken away and my mom would kick me out and/or send me to jail.

 

[turkproducer]

Sounds like u got major insecurities bro.

Also him being 3 inches shorter than u at 14 is pretty normal, you are generally like tanner 3.5 at that age so gone through ur major growth spurts.. how developed is he and how developed are you?

If you have money you can inject HGH and take an AI, if not inject peptides and take an AI

 

[Jack]

Sounds like u got major insecurities bro.

Also him being 3 inches shorter than u at 14 is pretty normal, you are generally like tanner 3.5 at that age so gone through ur major growth spurts.. how developed is he and how developed are you?

If you have money you can inject HGH and take an AI, if not inject peptides and take an AI

I'm broke bro. If I take HGH when i'm in my early 20's will I still grow?

 

[turkproducer]

I'm broke bro. If I take HGH when i'm in my early 20's will I still grow?

Depends what you mean, at 24? defo not, at 20-21 you may experience some spine growth, however short people generally stop growing earlier so it’s better to take weaker supplements now and grow for sure a little bit rather than save up for HGH where it might be too late

 

[Jack]

Depends what you mean, at 24? defo not, at 20-21 you may experience some spine growth, however short people generally stop growing earlier so it’s better to take weaker supplements now and grow for sure a little bit rather than save up for HGH where it might be too late

It might be over for me then

 

[framecel222]

not even the title

 

[BigBoy]

I'm sorry bro, I'm gonna be as brutal as possible. Your brother is gonna grow to your height or even more. You have to accept the fact. Do good in other areas so you aren't affected by it.

What are your parents' heights? And where do you live? Parents aren't allowed to kick out kids until the age of 18.

 

[Pendejo]

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[Chadelite]

why dont u beat him up?

lol, his younger brother in a few years will be able to beat OP's ass.

 

[Mateusz74]

Why not just talk to him?

 

[Jack]

Why not just talk to him?

It's complicated bro

I'm sorry bro, I'm gonna be as brutal as possible. Your brother is gonna grow to your height or even more. You have to accept the fact. Do good in other areas so you aren't affected by it.

What are your parents' heights? And where do you live? Parents aren't allowed to kick out kids until the age of 18.

It's probably over for me. i'm 5.7.5. My mom isn't tryna kick me out though, if anything i'll leave myself.

 

[Deleted member 2205]

I'm broke bro. If I take HGH when i'm in my early 20's will I still grow?

Don't listen to this fool. Even know, HGH + AI will give you 1 inch max, and thta's if your growth plates are open.

 

[nattycel]

Didn't read but I hate life too friend

 

[Deleted member 2205]

Didn't read but I hate life too friend

manlets feel a rage you will never experience. Imagine being invisible to women + being seen as a pushover. It fucking sucks for manlets, and basically over.

 

[Jack]

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I would look like a freak if I got LL, but if I had money I would probably get it anyway just to be 5'10

 

[nattycel]

manlets feel a rage you will never experience. Imagine being invisible to women + being seen as a pushover. It fucking sucks for manlets, and basically over.

You'll get taller. Believe and you will achieve

 

[Deleted member 2205]

I would look like a freak if I got LL, but if I had money I would probably get it anyway just to be 5'10

Get atleast 50k if you're even considering LL.

 

[Jacob Rothschild]

I hate this forum

 

[Deleted member 2205]

You'll get taller. Believe and you will achieve

My growth plates are closed bro. I'm not short but used to be pretty short for my age when I was 15. And it was such a bad experience.

 

[Mateusz74]

Don't listen to this fool. Even know, HGH + AI will give you 1 inch max, and thta's if your growth plates are open.

You can’t say if it’s gonna give him 1 inch or 2-3 inches. I don’t know why u shit on hgh so much. At 17 he might grow if he ran some form of hgh + ai

 

[Deleted member 2205]

Believe and you will achieve

 

[nattycel]

My growth plates are closed bro. I'm not short but used to be pretty short for my age when I was 15. And it was such a bad experience.

Thought you were like 16-17?

 

[Jack]

Get atleast 50k if you're even considering LL.

I'm going to musicmax in the near future after senior year and if that pops off, which I have a strong feeling it will, i'll consider it.

 

[Deleted member 2205]

You can’t say if it’s gonna give him 1 inch or 3-4 inch. I don’t know why u shit on hgh so much. At 17 he might grow if he ran some form of hgh + ai

Endocronologists believe it's too late for height gains after 15 with real hgh and clinical T3 and t4 thyroid, plus AI. The only case I've seen is a 17 year old with a bone age of 15, grow 2 inches after a year of gh treatments, with his growth plates closing at the end even with letrozole.
OP should try if he has the money, but if he expects it to give him even an inch he will likely be very disapointed

Thought you were like 16-17?

I had a growth spurt and the prematurely closed lol. I'm 5'10 though so it's not that bad.

 

[Mateusz74]

Endocronologists believe it's too late for height gains after 15 with real hgh and clinical T3 and t4 thyroid, plus AI. The only case I've seen is a 17 year old with a bone age of 15, grow 2 inches after a year of gh treatments, with his growth plates closing at the end even with letrozole.
OP should try if he has the money, but if he expects it to give him even an inch he will likely be very disapointed

I had a growth spurt and the prematurely closed lol. I'm 5'10 though so it's not that bad.

What about wincel? On extra chromosome’s thread multiple people claim they grew a bit on it. I honestly think u shouldn’t expect much from it, but it’s worth a try if ur under 19

 

[Deleted member 2205]

What about wincel? On extra chromosome’s thread multiple people claim they grew a bit on it. I honestly think u shouldn’t expect much from it, but it’s worth a try if ur under 19

It is worth a try for sure, but don' t expect to grow taller. Also I dont trust extra chromosome or wincel after I realized how many plotholes there were in heightmaxxing tbh. I talked to an endocronoligist about potency vs amount off HGH, and he conirme that most sarms or peptides cannot and aren't potent enough to increase height like real HGH does. But growth depends on GH spikes and overall levels, so it still may work if you get lucky.

 

[Mateusz74]

It is worth a try for sure, but don' t expect to grow taller. Also I dont trust extra chromosome or wincel after I realized how many plotholes there were in heightmaxxing tbh. I talked to an endocronoligist about potency vs amount off HGH, and he conirme that most sarms or peptides cannot and aren't potent enough to increase height like real HGH does. But growth depends on GH spikes and overall levels, so it still may work if you get lucky.

I mean yeah real pharma hgh will always be better but u can match the hgh/igf1 levels with mk677+ peptides. To say they aren’t potent enough and won’t work for height is wrong. And what are the plotholes?

 

[Deleted member 2205]

I mean yeah real pharma hgh will always be better but u can match the hgh/igf1 levels with mk677+ peptides. To say they aren’t potent enough and won’t work for height is wrong. And what are the plotholes?

A certain UI of HGH is required for bone growth, and mk 677 can't achieve this. But direct bone growth isn't the only way you grow taller, raising overall GH levels should create more peaks of HGH which means more overall growth if your plates are open, which is why I said mk 677 likely won't work but still may give you an inch max a 17yo

 

[Newguyaround]

Endocronologists believe it's too late for height gains after 15 with real hgh and clinical T3 and t4 thyroid, plus AI. The only case I've seen is a 17 year old with a bone age of 15, grow 2 inches after a year of gh treatments, with his growth plates closing at the end even with letrozole.
OP should try if he has the money, but if he expects it to give him even an inch he will likely be very disapointed

I had a growth spurt and the prematurely closed lol. I'm 5'10 though so it's not that bad.

Source where 15 year old are treated with hgh + t3 and t4 and ai?

 

[Deleted member 2205]

Source where 15 year old are treated with hgh + t3 and t4 and ai?

Ask your endocronologist or find it yourself lol.

 

[Newguyaround]

Ask your endocronologist or find it yourself lol.

So you have no proof?

 

[Deleted member 2205]

So you have no proof?

Just like you havve no proof that you grew during ibutamoren except some shitty sketches on a wall? I said to search it up retard.

 

[Newguyaround]

Just like you havve no proof that you grew during ibutamoren except some shitty sketches on a wall? I said to search it up retard.

I have my parents measure chill out. Search it up? So you just make a blind statement like that.

 

[Deleted member 2205]

I have my parents measure chill out. Search it up? So you just make a blind statement like that.

What do you mean a blind statement? Just ask a real endocronoligist dumbass. I never said mk couldn't cause growth, just that it's not potent enough to cause direct bone growth like GH does.

 

[Newguyaround]

What do you mean a blind statement? Just ask a real endocronoligist dumbass. I never said mk couldn't cause growth, just that it's not potent enough to cause direct bone growth like GH does.

No for 15+ year old treated with gh + ai + thyroid wheres your source for this

 

[Mateusz74]

A certain UI of HGH is required for bone growth, and mk 677 can't achieve this. But direct bone growth isn't the only way you grow taller, raising overall GH levels should create more peaks of HGH which means more overall growth if your plates are open, which is why I said mk 677 likely won't work but still may give you an inch max a 17yo

@Dope read this

MK-677 Vs HGH Vs Peptides - Which Is Better And Why?

MK-677 Vs HGH and MK-677 Vs Peptides. This article delves into these comparisons and outlines exactly how each stacks up against one another.

moreplatesmoredates.com

 

[Newguyaround]

What do you mean a blind statement? Just ask a real endocronoligist dumbass. I never said mk couldn't cause growth, just that it's not potent enough to cause direct bone growth like GH does.

One more thing what other proof can I show I showed you my height growth in 3 weeks from mk677 then I show you the bottle, There is nothing else I can post. Yet you still call me a lair what benefit do I get from lying

 

[Deleted member 2205]

@Dope read this

MK-677 Vs HGH Vs Peptides - Which Is Better And Why?

MK-677 Vs HGH and MK-677 Vs Peptides. This article delves into these comparisons and outlines exactly how each stacks up against one another.

moreplatesmoredates.com

"taking MK-677 reaching the equivalent of at least a 4 IU daily dose of generic growth hormone" not another word. Mk 677 doesn't produce the same effects as 4 UIs of GH.

 

[Mateusz74]

" taking MK-677 reaching the equivalent of at least a 4 IU daily dose of generic growth hormone " not another word. Y

Lol. You see ur not explaining why this is not the case and whenever someone here mentions mk you just say “cope cope”.

 

[Deleted member 2205]

Just ask @x30001 if you're going to be this delusional. I've already confirmed with my endocronoligist and done enough research on SARMS and Peptides to know they can't be compared with pharma grade GH because they don't act in the same way.

Influincing increased production of GH ≠ Actual GH. Mk only brings GH to normal high levels, which your body is already at during puberty. I already said the iformation you need is accesible at your local endocronoligist, and I admitted it may cause growth, but nothing to get excited for. I don't believe or 1 second that @Newguyaround gre that much because even proffessional grade GH doesn't cause that much accelerated growth.
Also if you seriously took mk 677 withuot an AI you're retarded. Extra chromosome himself and research shows anything that influences GH in the body will cause pubescent people to have accelerated bone growth, in the same way growth spurts work.

Lol. You see ur not explaining why this is not the case and whenever someone here mentions mk you just say “cope cope”.

Once again, I never said it was cope. I literally said there's very little chance it will make you grow at 17, and if it does, then not by much. I'm tired of arguing based on half assed results.

 

[Newguyaround]

Teens secrete 700ug of gh each day https://www.iasj.net/iasj?func=fulltext&aId=95006 This is somewhere around 2.1 iu each day
According to this https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8954023 it says it increases gh concentration by 97%. But the sutdies are done on elderly patient. As a teen you'll prob produce more growth hrome. so when we take that into calculation and it would be 4.14 iu each day. so we can estimate mk677 can bring 3.5-4.5 iu of growth hormone

Just ask @x30001 if you're going to be this delusional. I've already confirmed with my endocronoligist and done enough research on SARMS and Peptides to know they can't be compared with pharma grade GH because they don't act in the same way.

Influincing increased production of GH ≠ Actual GH. Mk only brings GH to normal high levels, which your body is already at during puberty. I already said the iformation you need is accesible at your local endocronoligist, and I admitted it may cause growth, but nothing to get excited for. I don't believe or 1 second that @Newguyaround gre that much because even proffessional grade GH doesn't cause that much accelerated growth.
Also if you seriously took mk 677 withuot an AI you're retarded. Extra chromosome himself and research shows anything that influences GH in the body will cause pubescent people to have accelerated bone growth, in the same way growth spurts work.

Once again, I never said it was cope. I literally said there's very little chance it will make you grow at 17, and if it does, then not by much. I'm tired of arguing based on half assed results.

... pubescent? Im in puberty though so it won't accelerate bone age. I agree that there is little chance of growth at 17 no more than 3 inches
I forgot to add https://www.orthobullets.com/basic-science/9086/bone-growth-factors GH-IGF-1 system induce proliferation without maturation of the growth plate and thus induce linear skeletal growth. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15616898 according to this elevated igf1 and gh is waht causes growth spurts.

 

[Mateusz74]

Just ask @x30001 if you're going to be this delusional. I've already confirmed with my endocronoligist and done enough research on SARMS and Peptides to know they can't be compared with pharma grade GH because they don't act in the same way.

Influincing increased production of GH ≠ Actual GH. Mk only brings GH to normal high levels, which your body is already at during puberty. I already said the iformation you need is accesible at your local endocronoligist, and I admitted it may cause growth, but nothing to get excited for. I don't believe or 1 second that @Newguyaround gre that much because even proffessional grade GH doesn't cause that much accelerated growth.
Also if you seriously took mk 677 withuot an AI you're retarded. Extra chromosome himself and research shows anything that influences GH in the body will cause pubescent people to have accelerated bone growth, in the same way growth spurts work.

Once again, I never said it was cope. I literally said there's very little chance it will make you grow at 17, and if it does, then not by much. I'm tired of arguing based on half assed results.

I’m not saying it’s a magic solution to height growth. But for teenagers who already have naturally high hgh, something that mimics low dose hgh would surely help right? And don’t deny it now u said multiple times before that it was “pure cope”.

 

[Deleted member 2205]

u said multiple times before that it was “pure cope".

Are you sure about that?

But direct bone growth isn't the only way you grow taller, raising overall GH levels should create more peaks of HGH which means more overall growth if your plates are open, which is why I said mk 677 likely won't work but still may give you an inch max a 17yo

and I admitted it may cause growth, but nothing to get excited for

.I never said mk couldn't cause growth

not potent enough to cause direct bone growth like GH does.

But direct bone growth isn't the only way you grow taller, raising overall GH levels should create more peaks of HGH which means more overall growth if your plates are open, which is why I said mk 677 likely won't work but still may give you an inch max a 17yo

 

[Mateusz74]

 

[Deleted member 2205]

... pubescent? Im in puberty though so it won't accelerate bone age. I agree that there is little chance of growth at 17 no more than 3 inches

"pubescent. A pubescent girl or boy is a young person who's just reached the age of puberty, or sexual maturity. ... Pubescent girls and boys are at an in-between stage in their lives, no longer little kids, but not yet grownups."

According to this https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8954023 it says it increases gh concentration by 97%

And Intermittent fasting causes even more GH increase. Direct GH influences bone growth, not average GH levels. IGF-1 levels would matter more in terms of indirect bone growth (which we are still assuming it's a real thing)

https://www.orthobullets.com/basic-science/9086/bone-growth-factors GH-IGF-1 system induce proliferation without maturation of the growth plate

show me the part where it says HGH without AI doesn't cause bone growth
"

• the products of the GH-IGF-1 system induce proliferation without maturation of the growth plate and thus induce linear skeletal growth.
• the action of the thyroid hormone axis is via an active metabolite that enters target cells and signals a nuclear receptor to stimulate both proliferation and maturation of the growth plate. Increased amounts of the active steroid hormone metabolite promote proliferation and maturation of the growth plate

"
Normal levels of GH, not accelrated.



Feel free to read https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8950623#targetText=One of the largest and,mg/kg per week).
This was a REAL STUDY Ddone with REAL HGH.
If you don't thin this is cope, ask @x30001 like I said.
https://www.vocabulary.com/dictionary/pubescent

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Ok so I said that fucking once? I literally said multiple times before you started going full retard that it may cause very little growth. You guys are delusional jfl.

 

[Mateusz74]

@Dope you just said mk677 is not potent enough then how do u expect it to make ur fucking nose and ears grow?

 

[Deleted member 2205]

So yeah it won't make a 17 year old grow even an inch. And I believe that Mk 677 is cope. I said there's very little chance, and still hold true to that. Ask a local endocronoligist.

@Dope you just said mk677 is not potent enough then how do u expect it to make ur fucking nose and ears grow?

Soft tissue grows before bones.

Yes MK-677 does grow the nose and ears and I just found out why

Soft tissue will grow before hard tissue. So enjoy your big nose and ears with no jaw growth. You need to take it long term together with CJC-1295

looksmax.org

 

[Mateusz74]

So yeah it won't make a 17 year old grow even an inch. And I believe that Mk 677 is cope. I said there's very little chance, and still hold true to that. Ask a local endocronoligist.

Soft tissue grows before bones.

Yes MK-677 does grow the nose and ears and I just found out why

Soft tissue will grow before hard tissue. So enjoy your big nose and ears with no jaw growth. You need to take it long term together with CJC-1295

looksmax.org

Well every growing kid should have massive ears and nose then right?