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I feel this is particularly common in the Anglosphere but I also noticed it in Poland
In general foids are more likely to be nice/polite to mogger men in environments where it is expected, eg. interactions with foid shopkeepers or interactions when foids make space for you to pass on a bus etc. but when there is no expectation to be polite (nightlife environments) I think foids really use it as an opportunity to let rip at Moggers who don't have an entourage moreso than they do to sub 5 guys.
Unless the sub 5 is annoying them they'll probably just treat them as invisible and they view the sub 5 as beneath themselves anyway so there's no reason to go out of their way to try be nasty to the sub 5 unless they're particularly malicious
When they see a mogger male however in an environment where there is no expectation to be polite and they feel they can get away with being impolite because it's an environment of strangers they likely wont see again, they will pick whatever angle they can to try bring the mogger male down a peg.
The most obvious way is to reject the mogger male instantly and impolitely if he approaches them because it boosts their ego to feel like they were responsible for making the mogger male feel dejected if they manage to deject him.
The second way is to discuss to their friend how the mogger male is a loser if he is by himself so that they can feel like they are above him because he doesn't have friends with him.
They may look at the mogger male with a face that smugly suggests they were talking about him.
The subconscious reason behind this is because they know they are way too insecure to ever set foot in a club alone and dance by themselves for people to see so they resent the fact that the Mogger male is comfortable enough with himself to do something like this.
The next level beyond foids just talking about you is foids hitting you with IODs for no reason when they talk about you
This happened to me in a club in Poland which I went to on a Saturday night having gone there the Friday night the day before and it was somehow more dead on the Saturday while it was busy on Friday.
Anyway I bought myself a drink and went to the seated couch area where I was effectively alone aside from two foids sitting perpendicular to me who looked over at me and when I looked back one of them gave an IOD facial expression, obviously an attempt to show they disapprove of a mogger sitting alone while having a drink to bring me down a peg since they were sitting there with just two of them clearly having a shit and boring night and couldn't fathom a mogger who was comfortable being alone.
I also seen an instance in a Nordic club where a mogger went onto the dancefloor to approach a low MTB shortly before closing time and he got an insta rejection, no pleasantries given from the foid just a stern faced instant rejection and he came back off of the dancefloor to where I was and after what I just witnessed I told him he was a mogger in normie terms and he recognized my looks level as well so it was comical to me that the two of us where standing on the edge of the sharks den realizing that any effort made in such an environment was pointless.
When you're a youngcel and receive such rejections yourself it's easy to think that you don't look good enough and have to lower your standards further to succeed but when you see the situation play out with other people in front of your very eyes it's impossible to think the rejection is anything other than the foid feeling inadequate compared to the man and wanting to take him down a peg for showing interest in her which her brain cannot possibly register as genuine interest because of how low she views her own looks compared to his.
I recently worked a night where a mogger approached a MTB who was part of a group of low looks level foids on a hen night and it just looked so out of place because they were so far from being pheno matched.
The guy had a forward grown face/mandible with some facial hair on his chin and the kind of pheno that looks like it does will with narcy shallow foids and looks like a pheno that does well online whereas the foid had the rural Irish foid pheno where she looked plain because of flattish maxilla.
I could see her show zero enthusiasm for his approach although she wasn't dismissive of him and his approach seemed NT while he had NT looking mates with him but it's just clear to see from the outside perspective when a foid can't get excited for an approach because she knows the guy is above her level and can't get any joy from the guy being nice to her because she feels she doesn't deserve that treatment from him.
Also the fact that he is being nice/charming makes her dislike herself even more because she feels morally inferior to him because foids often take immoral actions to cope with things when they feel bad about themselves.
The guy just abandoned his attempts to graft her after a while when her energy towards him failed to pick up.
So why do foids envy mogger men assuming the foid looks attractive herself and gets way more attention from the opposite sex than even mogger men get?
The reason for this is because foids know how their mind works and dislike the fact that despite them looking good and getting constant interest from men, it's never enough for them and it doesn't lead to them being nicer and more humble people.
The difference with men is that moggers tend to be humble and when a foid sees a goodlooking guy, his face first makes her associate his looks with having a good personality then when they actually have an interaction with the mogger and see that he is humble and genuine, this makes her feel inadequate in every department compared to him because she knows she is morally bankrupt.
This is why foids often feel more comfortable getting with males who are unattractive physically and are arrogant and pretentious with no competence backing it up because she doesn't feel inferior to him lookswise and also feels on par with him morally so it doesn't shine a spotlight on her flaws which is what she feels when she's in the presence of a humble mogger.
Foids also hate that the mogger is the one male who's opinion can make or break their opinion of themselves.
If a mogger rejects them it is over for their self esteem so they would rather take the mogger down a peg first in a bid to convince themselves they are above him when in reality they know they are physically and morally inferior to him.
The know from being in men's company that most men are decent people and way better people compared to foids so when they meet a guy who's decent and a mogger on top of it she is guaranteed to feel inadequate.
When a foid who gets treated as if she is goodlooking and in high demand looks at herself naked in the mirror after getting out of the shower, she will often be looking at the reflection of a 5'5, meh naked bodied, boneless face becky without makeup and knows deep down she isn't all that regardless of how much attention she gets for her looks.
When she's in a nightlife environment and see's a mogger male standing at 6'2 or above who is on par with her or surpasses her beauty wise but he also has the added masculinity that makes him look majestic, she feels like she is nothing in comparison because her only purpose is to act as a factory that attempts to give birth to the next generation of mogger men, whereas the mogger man doesn't need anyone else to justify his existence (while foids need mogger men's validation to justify their existence)
The mogger man simply IS, he needs nothing more than to exist because he is the final entity who's existence justifies evolution and the entire reproduction cycle.
In general foids are more likely to be nice/polite to mogger men in environments where it is expected, eg. interactions with foid shopkeepers or interactions when foids make space for you to pass on a bus etc. but when there is no expectation to be polite (nightlife environments) I think foids really use it as an opportunity to let rip at Moggers who don't have an entourage moreso than they do to sub 5 guys.
Unless the sub 5 is annoying them they'll probably just treat them as invisible and they view the sub 5 as beneath themselves anyway so there's no reason to go out of their way to try be nasty to the sub 5 unless they're particularly malicious
When they see a mogger male however in an environment where there is no expectation to be polite and they feel they can get away with being impolite because it's an environment of strangers they likely wont see again, they will pick whatever angle they can to try bring the mogger male down a peg.
The most obvious way is to reject the mogger male instantly and impolitely if he approaches them because it boosts their ego to feel like they were responsible for making the mogger male feel dejected if they manage to deject him.
The second way is to discuss to their friend how the mogger male is a loser if he is by himself so that they can feel like they are above him because he doesn't have friends with him.
They may look at the mogger male with a face that smugly suggests they were talking about him.
The subconscious reason behind this is because they know they are way too insecure to ever set foot in a club alone and dance by themselves for people to see so they resent the fact that the Mogger male is comfortable enough with himself to do something like this.
The next level beyond foids just talking about you is foids hitting you with IODs for no reason when they talk about you
This happened to me in a club in Poland which I went to on a Saturday night having gone there the Friday night the day before and it was somehow more dead on the Saturday while it was busy on Friday.
Anyway I bought myself a drink and went to the seated couch area where I was effectively alone aside from two foids sitting perpendicular to me who looked over at me and when I looked back one of them gave an IOD facial expression, obviously an attempt to show they disapprove of a mogger sitting alone while having a drink to bring me down a peg since they were sitting there with just two of them clearly having a shit and boring night and couldn't fathom a mogger who was comfortable being alone.
I also seen an instance in a Nordic club where a mogger went onto the dancefloor to approach a low MTB shortly before closing time and he got an insta rejection, no pleasantries given from the foid just a stern faced instant rejection and he came back off of the dancefloor to where I was and after what I just witnessed I told him he was a mogger in normie terms and he recognized my looks level as well so it was comical to me that the two of us where standing on the edge of the sharks den realizing that any effort made in such an environment was pointless.
When you're a youngcel and receive such rejections yourself it's easy to think that you don't look good enough and have to lower your standards further to succeed but when you see the situation play out with other people in front of your very eyes it's impossible to think the rejection is anything other than the foid feeling inadequate compared to the man and wanting to take him down a peg for showing interest in her which her brain cannot possibly register as genuine interest because of how low she views her own looks compared to his.
I recently worked a night where a mogger approached a MTB who was part of a group of low looks level foids on a hen night and it just looked so out of place because they were so far from being pheno matched.
The guy had a forward grown face/mandible with some facial hair on his chin and the kind of pheno that looks like it does will with narcy shallow foids and looks like a pheno that does well online whereas the foid had the rural Irish foid pheno where she looked plain because of flattish maxilla.
I could see her show zero enthusiasm for his approach although she wasn't dismissive of him and his approach seemed NT while he had NT looking mates with him but it's just clear to see from the outside perspective when a foid can't get excited for an approach because she knows the guy is above her level and can't get any joy from the guy being nice to her because she feels she doesn't deserve that treatment from him.
Also the fact that he is being nice/charming makes her dislike herself even more because she feels morally inferior to him because foids often take immoral actions to cope with things when they feel bad about themselves.
The guy just abandoned his attempts to graft her after a while when her energy towards him failed to pick up.
So why do foids envy mogger men assuming the foid looks attractive herself and gets way more attention from the opposite sex than even mogger men get?
The reason for this is because foids know how their mind works and dislike the fact that despite them looking good and getting constant interest from men, it's never enough for them and it doesn't lead to them being nicer and more humble people.
The difference with men is that moggers tend to be humble and when a foid sees a goodlooking guy, his face first makes her associate his looks with having a good personality then when they actually have an interaction with the mogger and see that he is humble and genuine, this makes her feel inadequate in every department compared to him because she knows she is morally bankrupt.
This is why foids often feel more comfortable getting with males who are unattractive physically and are arrogant and pretentious with no competence backing it up because she doesn't feel inferior to him lookswise and also feels on par with him morally so it doesn't shine a spotlight on her flaws which is what she feels when she's in the presence of a humble mogger.
Foids also hate that the mogger is the one male who's opinion can make or break their opinion of themselves.
If a mogger rejects them it is over for their self esteem so they would rather take the mogger down a peg first in a bid to convince themselves they are above him when in reality they know they are physically and morally inferior to him.
The know from being in men's company that most men are decent people and way better people compared to foids so when they meet a guy who's decent and a mogger on top of it she is guaranteed to feel inadequate.
When a foid who gets treated as if she is goodlooking and in high demand looks at herself naked in the mirror after getting out of the shower, she will often be looking at the reflection of a 5'5, meh naked bodied, boneless face becky without makeup and knows deep down she isn't all that regardless of how much attention she gets for her looks.
When she's in a nightlife environment and see's a mogger male standing at 6'2 or above who is on par with her or surpasses her beauty wise but he also has the added masculinity that makes him look majestic, she feels like she is nothing in comparison because her only purpose is to act as a factory that attempts to give birth to the next generation of mogger men, whereas the mogger man doesn't need anyone else to justify his existence (while foids need mogger men's validation to justify their existence)
The mogger man simply IS, he needs nothing more than to exist because he is the final entity who's existence justifies evolution and the entire reproduction cycle.
