I got denied from MSE (also informations for future msecels)

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here is the thread when i mention it : https://looksmax.org/threads/i-will-go-to-an-oral-surgeon-next-month.101050/
the reason why i got denied is because my palate is already wider than the average,He said that further expansion would be useless also i would have to get surgery on the lower arch to match the upper ( this is interesting i thought it will grow aswell) i still have the mini implants in my palate from past treatment i thought i can neanderthal max to oblivion,guess not
How to see how much expansion you can achieve without surgery
touch your two cental incisor with the lower incisor, your lower arch should be wider if its already the same size you need surgery after mse
also if ur lower and upper arch is the same size and you havent got crowded teeth orthodontist wont give you any expansion device, they will try to use jew tactics like rubberbands or extractions.
 
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Yeah you'll need MSDO too that's common sense. What's your imw tho? My orthodontist is a dumb whore and claimed I have a wide smile even though I don't
 
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:rage: u were denied a basic human right
 
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Yeah you'll need MSDO too that's common sense. What's your imw tho? My orthodontist is a dumb whore and claimed I have a wide smile even though I don't
45 mm, its pretty wide i guess, but i already had an expansion device when i was younger
Yeah you'll need MSDO too that's common sense. What's your imw tho? My orthodontist is a dumb whore and claimed I have a wide smile even though I don't
you dont necessarily need msdo after mse
you can have sfot, or your orthodontist can angle your lower teeth
 
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get msdo and become a chad bro
 
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Mentally ill people getting hormones for free to transform themselves in opposite gender.
Meanwhile subhumans cant get even some palate expander to improve looks.

Clown world.
 
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get msdo and become a chad bro
i would benefit from an msdo but its a very rare surgery,and also requires a tons of work from an orthodontist aswell
Mentally ill people getting hormones for free to transform themselves in opposite gender.
Meanwhile subhumans cant get even some palate expander to improve looks.

Clown world.
i also got hybrid hyrax which is a weaker mse before,
 
@Golden Glass and i have wider palates than you and we can get MSE
 
@Golden Glass and i have wider palates than you and we can get MSE
Because your tall and your doctor believes you more bc of that
 
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@Golden Glass and i have wider palates than you and we can get MSE
how much is your imw
and how did u measure it
 
its between 50 and 55 mm
Inside of first molar to inside of first molar

Not in 2020
you are fucking retarded
i got it correctly measured i bit on to a gum type shit and then they measured it with calipers
if ur palate is 50-55mm you wont need mse because its already wide as fuck reminder ronald ead has 48mm palate and he looks like this
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measure it correctly not by sucking off a ruler
 
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you are fucking retarded
i got it correctly measured i bit on to a gum type shit and then they measured it with calipers
if ur palate is 50-55mm you wont need mse because its already wide as fuck reminder ronald ead has 48mm palate and he looks like this
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measure it correctly not by sucking off a ruler
Mine is wider than his

I want MSE not for palate but for pfl, ipd, and zygomatic arch benefits.

i gave 50-55 because i knew there was a margin of error.
 
Mentally ill people getting hormones for free to transform themselves in opposite gender.
Meanwhile subhumans cant get even some palate expander to improve looks.

Clown world.


Reminder they have transgender but they will never allow trans racial lmao
 
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Mine is wider than his

I want MSE not for palate but for pfl, ipd, and zygomatic arch benefits.

i gave 50-55 because i knew there was a margin of error.
sure buddy lmao
if u measure it properly with an orthodontist there isnt an error
you will get 9-10 mm expansion and after your palate will get to 64-5 mm doubling the average lmao
ronald ead already had intense zygo pain after 46mm but you will get to 65mm dont worry
 
WHy only 6.5psl

6.5 PSL is near perfection your under value 6.5 the reason i don't play 7 is that is dangerously close to human god tier
 
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6.5 PSL is near perfection your under value 6.5 the reason i don't play 7 is that is dangerously close to human god tier
fuark so what is uncle chadpreet 7.5?
 
Mentally ill people getting hormones for free to transform themselves in opposite gender.
Meanwhile subhumans cant get even some palate expander to improve looks.

Clown world.
She’s trying to erase him out the gene pool. She doesn’t want him to fraud and trick girls into thinking he’s a natural born chad
 
Someone fucking tell me right now how likely is MSE to increase IPD
 
Someone fucking tell me right now how likely is MSE to increase IPD
Its very likely but your zygos will widen too
Your es ratio wont change that much
 
Its very likely but your zygos will widen too
Your es ratio wont change that much
Then you would just shave your zygos right?

my Es ratio is not the problem anyway my midface ratio is so that’s not a bad thing. But I don’t believe that MSE always increases IPD I haven’t seen any study on that
 
Then you would just shave your zygos right?

my Es ratio is not the problem anyway my midface ratio is so that’s not a bad thing. But I don’t believe that MSE always increases IPD I haven’t seen any study on that
No, if ur eyes are too close together u are fucked
If your midface is long mse is a vers good option because it widens ur whole face
 
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No, if ur eyes are too close together u are fucked
If your midface is long mse is a vers good option because it widens ur whole face
it does increase IPD slightly but not enough to see dramatic results
 
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No, if ur eyes are too close together u are fucked
If your midface is long mse is a vers good option because it widens ur whole face
My midface is compact I have 2FWHR . Eyes fuck me
 
Compact midface doesnt mean high fwhr
Measure your midface ratio

im being an idiot I meant a normal mid face length
Brow to mouth is about 70mm pupil to mouth is 65mm and IPD is subhuman 60.4mm bi zygos are about 140mm

I Have pale skin but bad eastern pheno. I need harmony much more than People with good pheno
 
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im being an idiot I meant a normal mid face length
Brow to mouth is about 70mm pupil to mouth is 65mm and IPD is subhuman 60.4mm bi zygos are about 140mm

I Have pale skin but bad eastern pheno. I need harmony much more than People with good pheno
idk
you shouldnt gave a fuck about milimeters imo
its all about proportions and ratios
 

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