"I hate being a short, ugly male."

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I just hate not being attractive to women despite being fit, well-groomed, considerate, empathetic, friendly, and earning well into 6 figures, have a stable job and enough savings to buy a house. I mention this because the average guy would have no issues finding a partner if they had these traits.

Dating apps don’t work for me. I get matches with bots only or women who accidentally swiped on me which later leave me on read or say something like “ew lol” or didn’t look at my height and eventually after a conversation say I’m too short for them.

I also was dumb enough to believe someone had interest in me and ended up getting scammed. That’s entirely on me though for being so deluded in thinking there was someone actually interested in me. (I got threatened because apparently the fake profile person had been kidnapped and they were gonna involve me with the police since I was the last person to text her, etc. It was a bit convincing but in retrospect I could have verified the details but I was too ignorant of the laws). Anyways, that sealed my decision on never using dating apps ever again.

I have been rejected by every woman I have asked out in real life. I am not stinky either. I am very mindful of my hygiene, fitness, way I dress, groom, etc. I have also been outright told a few times that I’m too short for them. Now I am not 5’8 short, I’m 5’4.

I have treated every woman with respect, have never gotten mad at a rejection, have never done any creepy stalking and stopped chatting when it died off. It may be my personality, but I am always being mindful of how I communicate to not come off as annoying or weird. None of my female friends have commented anything negative of my personality either so it is hard to pinpoint what it is if it is not just me being ugly and short. In this post I am clearly frustrated and showing my insecurities but this is not normally how I try to come off.

That’s why I think it’s the fact that Im ugly and short. I am tired of people saying it doesn’t matter because it clearly does. I have non-short friends who’s intentions are literally only to have sex and they get with girls who think they’re gonna last long together. And of every spectrum of what not to be when looking for a girlfriend, yet they have managed to get a girlfriend. So I understand that even with some imperfections, any average to above average man can get a partner. Yet, here I am trying to improve on myself constantly to no effort.

I have grown tired and old now though. I am losing hope as well. I was saving my virginity for my future wife but since I’m in my 30s, and had a near death experience I wanted to at least experience what sex felt like so I lost it to an escort. I feel terrible for doing that. One, because it’s pathetic that I had to resort to that and another is that I will never get that experience from a genuine partner.

I had a lot of things planned if I got girlfriend that would be romantic but now it just makes me sad thinking that I’ll never experience that. Even cheesy things like holding hands during sunset at the beach and me making a painting for them are things I had in mind. I also planned to buy a house and let my future wife pick which is why I’ve been holding off from buying but now it seems that I should just buy a one bedroom house.

I am now a recluse and I work long hours which just makes it impossible to meet anyone outside of work. My job is unfortunately male-oriented so I have minimal female workers and they are all married. I could put the effort to try and meet more women yet again , but it is highly likely that it will end the same. Especially now that i am not anywhere near my peak. I have no more energy to flirt or go through talking stages with women. I have tried all suggestions I’ve read but none have worked. Yes, more than just once. I am also aware at least one of you reading this will have a short male with no problems getting ladies. Read that a lot but never seen it once. I also started balding, my fitness levels started dropping since i stopped caring about myself. I am going downhill fast physically. I am depressed. All I wanted was to have a partner that genuinely liked me. Even if I Could afford a sugar baby, the thought of it not being genuine would make me avoid it.

I know it sounds like excuses, but believe me when I say I have tried a lot of things.

Thanks for letting me vent.



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I am very very sorry bhai. I wish I could change things for you :cry: I pray your situation gets better
 
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only chad has sex or is treated with respect by foids
 
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I just hate not being attractive to women despite being fit, well-groomed, considerate, empathetic, friendly, and earning well into 6 figures, have a stable job and enough savings to buy a house. I mention this because the average guy would have no issues finding a partner if they had these traits.

Dating apps don’t work for me. I get matches with bots only or women who accidentally swiped on me which later leave me on read or say something like “ew lol” or didn’t look at my height and eventually after a conversation say I’m too short for them.

I also was dumb enough to believe someone had interest in me and ended up getting scammed. That’s entirely on me though for being so deluded in thinking there was someone actually interested in me. (I got threatened because apparently the fake profile person had been kidnapped and they were gonna involve me with the police since I was the last person to text her, etc. It was a bit convincing but in retrospect I could have verified the details but I was too ignorant of the laws). Anyways, that sealed my decision on never using dating apps ever again.

I have been rejected by every woman I have asked out in real life. I am not stinky either. I am very mindful of my hygiene, fitness, way I dress, groom, etc. I have also been outright told a few times that I’m too short for them. Now I am not 5’8 short, I’m 5’4.

I have treated every woman with respect, have never gotten mad at a rejection, have never done any creepy stalking and stopped chatting when it died off. It may be my personality, but I am always being mindful of how I communicate to not come off as annoying or weird. None of my female friends have commented anything negative of my personality either so it is hard to pinpoint what it is if it is not just me being ugly and short. In this post I am clearly frustrated and showing my insecurities but this is not normally how I try to come off.

That’s why I think it’s the fact that Im ugly and short. I am tired of people saying it doesn’t matter because it clearly does. I have non-short friends who’s intentions are literally only to have sex and they get with girls who think they’re gonna last long together. And of every spectrum of what not to be when looking for a girlfriend, yet they have managed to get a girlfriend. So I understand that even with some imperfections, any average to above average man can get a partner. Yet, here I am trying to improve on myself constantly to no effort.

I have grown tired and old now though. I am losing hope as well. I was saving my virginity for my future wife but since I’m in my 30s, and had a near death experience I wanted to at least experience what sex felt like so I lost it to an escort. I feel terrible for doing that. One, because it’s pathetic that I had to resort to that and another is that I will never get that experience from a genuine partner.

I had a lot of things planned if I got girlfriend that would be romantic but now it just makes me sad thinking that I’ll never experience that. Even cheesy things like holding hands during sunset at the beach and me making a painting for them are things I had in mind. I also planned to buy a house and let my future wife pick which is why I’ve been holding off from buying but now it seems that I should just buy a one bedroom house.

I am now a recluse and I work long hours which just makes it impossible to meet anyone outside of work. My job is unfortunately male-oriented so I have minimal female workers and they are all married. I could put the effort to try and meet more women yet again , but it is highly likely that it will end the same. Especially now that i am not anywhere near my peak. I have no more energy to flirt or go through talking stages with women. I have tried all suggestions I’ve read but none have worked. Yes, more than just once. I am also aware at least one of you reading this will have a short male with no problems getting ladies. Read that a lot but never seen it once. I also started balding, my fitness levels started dropping since i stopped caring about myself. I am going downhill fast physically. I am depressed. All I wanted was to have a partner that genuinely liked me. Even if I Could afford a sugar baby, the thought of it not being genuine would make me avoid it.

I know it sounds like excuses, but believe me when I say I have tried a lot of things.

Thanks for letting me vent.



brutal. this is the classic tale of an incel did everything right got a nice job looksmaxxed only to get absolutely nothing in return. some people truly never stood a chance in life
Come to Brazil, here nobody is incel
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No man is having sex, contrary to what people believe about normies here I can't imagine those LTNs - MTNs around the street to be secret slayers it's obviously fake.
 
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I just hate not being attractive to women despite being fit, well-groomed, considerate, empathetic, friendly, and earning well into 6 figures, have a stable job and enough savings to buy a house. I mention this because the average guy would have no issues finding a partner if they had these traits.

Dating apps don’t work for me. I get matches with bots only or women who accidentally swiped on me which later leave me on read or say something like “ew lol” or didn’t look at my height and eventually after a conversation say I’m too short for them.

I also was dumb enough to believe someone had interest in me and ended up getting scammed. That’s entirely on me though for being so deluded in thinking there was someone actually interested in me. (I got threatened because apparently the fake profile person had been kidnapped and they were gonna involve me with the police since I was the last person to text her, etc. It was a bit convincing but in retrospect I could have verified the details but I was too ignorant of the laws). Anyways, that sealed my decision on never using dating apps ever again.

I have been rejected by every woman I have asked out in real life. I am not stinky either. I am very mindful of my hygiene, fitness, way I dress, groom, etc. I have also been outright told a few times that I’m too short for them. Now I am not 5’8 short, I’m 5’4.

I have treated every woman with respect, have never gotten mad at a rejection, have never done any creepy stalking and stopped chatting when it died off. It may be my personality, but I am always being mindful of how I communicate to not come off as annoying or weird. None of my female friends have commented anything negative of my personality either so it is hard to pinpoint what it is if it is not just me being ugly and short. In this post I am clearly frustrated and showing my insecurities but this is not normally how I try to come off.

That’s why I think it’s the fact that Im ugly and short. I am tired of people saying it doesn’t matter because it clearly does. I have non-short friends who’s intentions are literally only to have sex and they get with girls who think they’re gonna last long together. And of every spectrum of what not to be when looking for a girlfriend, yet they have managed to get a girlfriend. So I understand that even with some imperfections, any average to above average man can get a partner. Yet, here I am trying to improve on myself constantly to no effort.

I have grown tired and old now though. I am losing hope as well. I was saving my virginity for my future wife but since I’m in my 30s, and had a near death experience I wanted to at least experience what sex felt like so I lost it to an escort. I feel terrible for doing that. One, because it’s pathetic that I had to resort to that and another is that I will never get that experience from a genuine partner.

I had a lot of things planned if I got girlfriend that would be romantic but now it just makes me sad thinking that I’ll never experience that. Even cheesy things like holding hands during sunset at the beach and me making a painting for them are things I had in mind. I also planned to buy a house and let my future wife pick which is why I’ve been holding off from buying but now it seems that I should just buy a one bedroom house.

I am now a recluse and I work long hours which just makes it impossible to meet anyone outside of work. My job is unfortunately male-oriented so I have minimal female workers and they are all married. I could put the effort to try and meet more women yet again , but it is highly likely that it will end the same. Especially now that i am not anywhere near my peak. I have no more energy to flirt or go through talking stages with women. I have tried all suggestions I’ve read but none have worked. Yes, more than just once. I am also aware at least one of you reading this will have a short male with no problems getting ladies. Read that a lot but never seen it once. I also started balding, my fitness levels started dropping since i stopped caring about myself. I am going downhill fast physically. I am depressed. All I wanted was to have a partner that genuinely liked me. Even if I Could afford a sugar baby, the thought of it not being genuine would make me avoid it.

I know it sounds like excuses, but believe me when I say I have tried a lot of things.

Thanks for letting me vent.



brutal. this is the classic tale of an incel did everything right got a nice job looksmaxxed only to get absolutely nothing in return. some people truly never stood a chance in life
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I am very very sorry bhai. I wish I could change things for you :cry: I pray your situation gets better
lol this was copied from some reddit post thats why I put the title in brackets ""
 
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