I have a date tomorrow with a gym girl, here’s what I’m doing to do in order to fraud

[combatingNorwooding]

My first ever date btw, we are going to a restaurant, she wanted to go to the beach but it’s weird to be in the beach with shoes (need to heigh fraud) so I said some bs that I preferred going to a restaurant. I chose a restaurant that has good lightning as well since I was there a couple of times already and it’s a great restaurant. Anyway let us get straight into it.

I thought about every single detail.

Let’s start from head to toe literally

Hair: since my hair looks good when wet, I I’m using like a moisturizer cream that I once bought from my barber so it will look more wet and elegant.
Eyes: will also use an eyebrow gel so my brows will look more defined and thick. For my lases I use a lash curler, mascara, and I saw a guide here on botb that advised to take some of the eyebrow gel and a tweezer and then like pinch some lashes together so they will be more defined and it actually worked pretty decent. For eye color I use a slightly more bright color of my current eye color. As well as concealer for my dark circles.
skin quality & color: I use a tinted moisturizer and in the last week it was like 3-6 index so I used MT2 and tanned a bit.
For skin quality I’m using accutane right now and I have a huge annoying pimples right now I need to squeeze (over) so I will squeeze them tomorrow morning and then before I go out to the date I will use some foundation to lower the redness and the acne visibility) + green color corrector).
Lips: Vaseline tbh, and a tinted lip balm. like I’m not gay I won’t use lipstick (ironic right?).
body hair: I shaved my armpits, chest and facial hair. I shaved my armpits for a case I will sweat so it won’t be smelly and chest since Im going with a button shirt, I shaved my facial hair since I look better clean shaven (I shaved it now since my skin looks really red after shaving so I will let it cooldown till tomorrow).
Neck: not much I just will use a neck harness to pump it a little bit so it will look thicker.
Scent: I use a silver scent cologne, It’s the only cologne I use and it’s very cheap but I love the smell.
Frame and muscles: I’m going to the gym that day so I will spam lateral raises (holy fatigue @ce10098 @mikre ) and curls, just to pop veins.
Height: for height I never actually fraud it too much, but I got 3 inch insoles so I gotta try it, so I used Air Force ( I think it’s 3-5 CM ) and 3 inch insoles.
no personality fraud tomorrow unfortunately (gaba + balco)

I will all use a necklace that I have never used before and a nice bracelet I go to important events with.


I won’t be using any counters since I think it won’t do much different and I’m lazy and I think that what I’m doing is enough.

Tagging people who are knowledgeable bout frauding @Asoka @Sadist (also give me ideas maybe i can fraud more)

 

[CalmFrog]

Height: for height I never actually fraud it too much, but I got 3 inch insoles so I gotta try it, so I used Air Force ( I think it’s 3-5 CM ) and 3 inch insoles.

holy fuck bro, thats 10 cm of frauding ATLEAST, how tall are you and whats your wingspan, you can't seriously look normal unless you have a long wingspan and tall torso

 

[GoyLite]

Af1s and 3in insoles sonnnnnnnn

 

[combatingNorwooding]

@chudpiller @PharmaPhaggot @Volksstaffel (idk you but you seem knowledgeable)

 

[Snow19]

Dawg just go to the beach mann, unless ur a turbo manlet

 

[NorPSL]

My first ever date btw, we are going to a restaurant, she wanted to go to the beach but it’s weird to be in the beach with shoes (need to heigh fraud) so I said some bs that I preferred going to a restaurant. I chose a restaurant that has good lightning as well since I was there a couple of times already and it’s a great restaurant. Anyway let us get straight into it.

I thought about every single detail.

Let’s start from head to toe literally

Hair: since my hair looks good when wet, I I’m using like a moisturizer cream that I once bought from my barber so it will look more wet and elegant.
Eyes: will also use an eyebrow gel so my brows will look more defined and thick. For my lases I use a lash curler, mascara, and I saw a guide here on botb that advised to take some of the eyebrow gel and a tweezer and then like pinch some lashes together so they will be more defined and it actually worked pretty decent. For eye color I use a slightly more bright color of my current eye color. As well as concealer for my dark circles.
skin quality & color: I use a tinted moisturizer and in the last week it was like 3-6 index so I used MT2 and tanned a bit.
For skin quality I’m using accutane right now and I have a huge annoying pimples right now I need to squeeze (over) so I will squeeze them tomorrow morning and then before I go out to the date I will use some foundation to lower the redness and the acne visibility) + green color corrector).
Lips: Vaseline tbh, and a tinted lip balm. like I’m not gay I won’t use lipstick (ironic right?).
body hair: I shaved my armpits, chest and facial hair. I shaved my armpits for a case I will sweat so it won’t be smelly and chest since Im going with a button shirt, I shaved my facial hair since I look better clean shaven (I shaved it now since my skin looks really red after shaving so I will let it cooldown till tomorrow).
Neck: not much I just will use a neck harness to pump it a little bit so it will look thicker.
Scent: I use a silver scent cologne, It’s the only cologne I use and it’s very cheap but I love the smell.
Frame and muscles: I’m going to the gym that day so I will spam lateral raises (holy fatigue @ce10098 @mikre ) and curls, just to pop veins.
Height: for height I never actually fraud it too much, but I got 3 inch insoles so I gotta try it, so I used Air Force ( I think it’s 3-5 CM ) and 3 inch insoles.
no personality fraud tomorrow unfortunately (gaba + balco)

I will all use a necklace that I have never used before and a nice bracelet I go to important events with.


I won’t be using any counters since I think it won’t do much different and I’m lazy and I think that what I’m doing is enough.

Tagging people who are knowledgeable bout frauding @Asoka @Sadist (also give me ideas maybe i can fraud more)

what u gonna do if u gonna go to her house and u take ur shoes off

 

[combatingNorwooding]

holy fuck bro, thats 10 cm of frauding ATLEAST, how tall are you and whats your wingspan, you can't seriously look normal unless you have a long wingspan and tall torso

Af1s and 3in insoles sonnnnnnnn

I have also 2 inch, will it look more canny

 

[Allistic]

Doing too much

 

[combatingNorwooding]

what u gonna do if u gonna go to her house and u take ur shoes off

Will be with slippers and sock height boost she won’t notice

Dawg just go to the beach mann, unless ur a turbo manlet

Im Not that manlet but prefer to fraud it still

 

[Allistic]

Megafrauding is cool, just gets annoying to have to do all this sometimes tho

 

[combatingNorwooding]

Megafrauding is cool, just gets annoying to have to do all this sometimes tho

i love it tbh icl

 

[Allistic]

i love it tbh icl

Worst part is getting rid of it once your home and feeling ugly af lol

 

[Snow19]

Megafrauding is cool, just gets annoying to have to do all this sometimes tho

i love it tbh icl

Just get shoes with built in 2.5 inch heels thats what I use

 

[Allistic]

Just get shoes with built in 2.5 inch heels thats what I use

Boots r cool too

 

[Troo_]

gym girls are a huge red flag. they're over compensators for lack of estrogen who mainly want to infiltrate male spaces and get attention from them

also why fraud so hard esp with the insoles. beach is gonna be an inevitable option then she watches you shrink down hella lol

 

[Troo_]

gym girls are a huge red flag. they're over compensators for lack of estrogen who mainly want to infiltrate male spaces and get attention from them

also why fraud so hard esp with the insoles. beach is gonna be an inevitable option then she watches you shrink down hella lol

hope it goes well tho

 

[chudpiller]

mirin twin
makeup is risky but if you think it’s worth it than it’s good
you could also pop a lasix beforehand to get that lean and dry look

 

[Volksstaffel]

My first ever date btw, we are going to a restaurant, she wanted to go to the beach but it’s weird to be in the beach with shoes (need to heigh fraud) so I said some bs that I preferred going to a restaurant. I chose a restaurant that has good lightning as well since I was there a couple of times already and it’s a great restaurant. Anyway let us get straight into it.

I thought about every single detail.

Let’s start from head to toe literally

Hair: since my hair looks good when wet, I I’m using like a moisturizer cream that I once bought from my barber so it will look more wet and elegant.
Eyes: will also use an eyebrow gel so my brows will look more defined and thick. For my lases I use a lash curler, mascara, and I saw a guide here on botb that advised to take some of the eyebrow gel and a tweezer and then like pinch some lashes together so they will be more defined and it actually worked pretty decent. For eye color I use a slightly more bright color of my current eye color. As well as concealer for my dark circles.
skin quality & color: I use a tinted moisturizer and in the last week it was like 3-6 index so I used MT2 and tanned a bit.
For skin quality I’m using accutane right now and I have a huge annoying pimples right now I need to squeeze (over) so I will squeeze them tomorrow morning and then before I go out to the date I will use some foundation to lower the redness and the acne visibility) + green color corrector).
Lips: Vaseline tbh, and a tinted lip balm. like I’m not gay I won’t use lipstick (ironic right?).
body hair: I shaved my armpits, chest and facial hair. I shaved my armpits for a case I will sweat so it won’t be smelly and chest since Im going with a button shirt, I shaved my facial hair since I look better clean shaven (I shaved it now since my skin looks really red after shaving so I will let it cooldown till tomorrow).
Neck: not much I just will use a neck harness to pump it a little bit so it will look thicker.
Scent: I use a silver scent cologne, It’s the only cologne I use and it’s very cheap but I love the smell.
Frame and muscles: I’m going to the gym that day so I will spam lateral raises (holy fatigue @ce10098 @mikre ) and curls, just to pop veins.
Height: for height I never actually fraud it too much, but I got 3 inch insoles so I gotta try it, so I used Air Force ( I think it’s 3-5 CM ) and 3 inch insoles.
no personality fraud tomorrow unfortunately (gaba + balco)

I will all use a necklace that I have never used before and a nice bracelet I go to important events with.


I won’t be using any counters since I think it won’t do much different and I’m lazy and I think that what I’m doing is enough.

Tagging people who are knowledgeable bout frauding @Asoka @Sadist (also give me ideas maybe i can fraud more)

Gym girl = ran through whore

 

[sick kunt31]

tales from the villages

of Nayib and

Kashmir

 

[zanity]

My first ever date btw, we are going to a restaurant, she wanted to go to the beach but it’s weird to be in the beach with shoes (need to heigh fraud) so I said some bs that I preferred going to a restaurant. I chose a restaurant that has good lightning as well since I was there a couple of times already and it’s a great restaurant. Anyway let us get straight into it.

I thought about every single detail.

Let’s start from head to toe literally

Hair: since my hair looks good when wet, I I’m using like a moisturizer cream that I once bought from my barber so it will look more wet and elegant.
Eyes: will also use an eyebrow gel so my brows will look more defined and thick. For my lases I use a lash curler, mascara, and I saw a guide here on botb that advised to take some of the eyebrow gel and a tweezer and then like pinch some lashes together so they will be more defined and it actually worked pretty decent. For eye color I use a slightly more bright color of my current eye color. As well as concealer for my dark circles.
skin quality & color: I use a tinted moisturizer and in the last week it was like 3-6 index so I used MT2 and tanned a bit.
For skin quality I’m using accutane right now and I have a huge annoying pimples right now I need to squeeze (over) so I will squeeze them tomorrow morning and then before I go out to the date I will use some foundation to lower the redness and the acne visibility) + green color corrector).
Lips: Vaseline tbh, and a tinted lip balm. like I’m not gay I won’t use lipstick (ironic right?).
body hair: I shaved my armpits, chest and facial hair. I shaved my armpits for a case I will sweat so it won’t be smelly and chest since Im going with a button shirt, I shaved my facial hair since I look better clean shaven (I shaved it now since my skin looks really red after shaving so I will let it cooldown till tomorrow).
Neck: not much I just will use a neck harness to pump it a little bit so it will look thicker.
Scent: I use a silver scent cologne, It’s the only cologne I use and it’s very cheap but I love the smell.
Frame and muscles: I’m going to the gym that day so I will spam lateral raises (holy fatigue @ce10098 @mikre ) and curls, just to pop veins.
Height: for height I never actually fraud it too much, but I got 3 inch insoles so I gotta try it, so I used Air Force ( I think it’s 3-5 CM ) and 3 inch insoles.
no personality fraud tomorrow unfortunately (gaba + balco)

I will all use a necklace that I have never used before and a nice bracelet I go to important events with.


I won’t be using any counters since I think it won’t do much different and I’m lazy and I think that what I’m doing is enough.

Tagging people who are knowledgeable bout frauding @Asoka @Sadist (also give me ideas maybe i can fraud more)

height fraud is the worst thing u can do, at the end of the day she will see it anyways if u doing a sleepover with her or stuff like thta

 

[Sub->CL]

Worst part is getting rid of it once your home and feeling ugly af lol

It's crazy how fast we turned into hoes with this frauding, at least it's not full face clown makeup

 

[AtrophicPyra]

It's crazy how fast we turned into hoes with this frauding, at least it's not full face clown makeup

Nah deadass u can use tinted sunscreen

 

[Sub->CL]

Nah deadass u can use tinted sunscreen

Try gradual tanning lotion it's much better

 

[AtrophicPyra]

Try gradual tanning lotion it's much better

Will do ty

 

[combatingNorwooding]

Just get shoes with built in 2.5 inch heels thats what I use

Most of these shoes are ugly asf. Air Force are great and NT.

also why fraud so hard esp with the insoles. beach is gonna be an inevitable option then she watches you shrink down hella lol

im prepared for that

Gym girl = ran through whore

she’s cute and doesn’t have much insta followers and from what I talked to with her so far she is pretty weird as well which is good imo

crazy how fast we turned into hoes with this frauding, at least it's not full face clown makeup

makeup and frauding was created for men btw

 

[combatingNorwooding]

Should I lowkey reduce the insoles to 1.5 inch? Maybe you guys are right, if I wanna get into an LTR with her then frauding 10 CM in first date might not be the move

 

[IcePretty]

My first ever date btw, we are going to a restaurant, she wanted to go to the beach but it’s weird to be in the beach with shoes (need to heigh fraud) so I said some bs that I preferred going to a restaurant. I chose a restaurant that has good lightning as well since I was there a couple of times already and it’s a great restaurant. Anyway let us get straight into it.

I thought about every single detail.

Let’s start from head to toe literally

Hair: since my hair looks good when wet, I I’m using like a moisturizer cream that I once bought from my barber so it will look more wet and elegant.
Eyes: will also use an eyebrow gel so my brows will look more defined and thick. For my lases I use a lash curler, mascara, and I saw a guide here on botb that advised to take some of the eyebrow gel and a tweezer and then like pinch some lashes together so they will be more defined and it actually worked pretty decent. For eye color I use a slightly more bright color of my current eye color. As well as concealer for my dark circles.
skin quality & color: I use a tinted moisturizer and in the last week it was like 3-6 index so I used MT2 and tanned a bit.
For skin quality I’m using accutane right now and I have a huge annoying pimples right now I need to squeeze (over) so I will squeeze them tomorrow morning and then before I go out to the date I will use some foundation to lower the redness and the acne visibility) + green color corrector).
Lips: Vaseline tbh, and a tinted lip balm. like I’m not gay I won’t use lipstick (ironic right?).
body hair: I shaved my armpits, chest and facial hair. I shaved my armpits for a case I will sweat so it won’t be smelly and chest since Im going with a button shirt, I shaved my facial hair since I look better clean shaven (I shaved it now since my skin looks really red after shaving so I will let it cooldown till tomorrow).
Neck: not much I just will use a neck harness to pump it a little bit so it will look thicker.
Scent: I use a silver scent cologne, It’s the only cologne I use and it’s very cheap but I love the smell.
Frame and muscles: I’m going to the gym that day so I will spam lateral raises (holy fatigue @ce10098 @mikre ) and curls, just to pop veins.
Height: for height I never actually fraud it too much, but I got 3 inch insoles so I gotta try it, so I used Air Force ( I think it’s 3-5 CM ) and 3 inch insoles.
no personality fraud tomorrow unfortunately (gaba + balco)

I will all use a necklace that I have never used before and a nice bracelet I go to important events with.


I won’t be using any counters since I think it won’t do much different and I’m lazy and I think that what I’m doing is enough.

Tagging people who are knowledgeable bout frauding @Asoka @Sadist (also give me ideas maybe i can fraud more)

Hey, ping me after the date and lemme know how it went

 

[PharmaPhaggot]

Mascara mogs too

 

[50PM]

My first ever date btw, we are going to a restaurant, she wanted to go to the beach but it’s weird to be in the beach with shoes (need to heigh fraud) so I said some bs that I preferred going to a restaurant. I chose a restaurant that has good lightning as well since I was there a couple of times already and it’s a great restaurant. Anyway let us get straight into it.

I thought about every single detail.

Let’s start from head to toe literally

Hair: since my hair looks good when wet, I I’m using like a moisturizer cream that I once bought from my barber so it will look more wet and elegant.
Eyes: will also use an eyebrow gel so my brows will look more defined and thick. For my lases I use a lash curler, mascara, and I saw a guide here on botb that advised to take some of the eyebrow gel and a tweezer and then like pinch some lashes together so they will be more defined and it actually worked pretty decent. For eye color I use a slightly more bright color of my current eye color. As well as concealer for my dark circles.
skin quality & color: I use a tinted moisturizer and in the last week it was like 3-6 index so I used MT2 and tanned a bit.
For skin quality I’m using accutane right now and I have a huge annoying pimples right now I need to squeeze (over) so I will squeeze them tomorrow morning and then before I go out to the date I will use some foundation to lower the redness and the acne visibility) + green color corrector).
Lips: Vaseline tbh, and a tinted lip balm. like I’m not gay I won’t use lipstick (ironic right?).
body hair: I shaved my armpits, chest and facial hair. I shaved my armpits for a case I will sweat so it won’t be smelly and chest since Im going with a button shirt, I shaved my facial hair since I look better clean shaven (I shaved it now since my skin looks really red after shaving so I will let it cooldown till tomorrow).
Neck: not much I just will use a neck harness to pump it a little bit so it will look thicker.
Scent: I use a silver scent cologne, It’s the only cologne I use and it’s very cheap but I love the smell.
Frame and muscles: I’m going to the gym that day so I will spam lateral raises (holy fatigue @ce10098 @mikre ) and curls, just to pop veins.
Height: for height I never actually fraud it too much, but I got 3 inch insoles so I gotta try it, so I used Air Force ( I think it’s 3-5 CM ) and 3 inch insoles.
no personality fraud tomorrow unfortunately (gaba + balco)

I will all use a necklace that I have never used before and a nice bracelet I go to important events with.


I won’t be using any counters since I think it won’t do much different and I’m lazy and I think that what I’m doing is enough.

Tagging people who are knowledgeable bout frauding @Asoka @Sadist (also give me ideas maybe i can fraud more)

if your frame is good and height is decent without frauding theres no point in adding that much more height, AF1 is at least 3 inches and your booster another 3 inches

unless you got very wide clavicles and shoulders your ratios will be off

 

[Asoka]

All i can recommend is to use concealer on some of the bigger pimples & shoulder pads based on situation

 

[combatingNorwooding]

Mascara mogs too

Yeah I listed it

if your frame is good and height is decent without frauding theres no point in adding that much more height, AF1 is at least 3 inches and your booster another 3 inches

unless you got very wide clavicles and shoulders your ratios will be off

Air Force are like 1-1.5 inches

All i can recommend is to use concealer on some of the bigger pimples & shoulder pads based on situation

I don’t have the right color for the concealer but isn’t foundation and green color corrector enough?

Also I don’t have shoulder pads

 

[Sadist]

dont overdo ur lashes and use some cialis for even more vascularity/pump/edema retention

also, why are u taking a girl to a restaurant for ur first date? it’s best to take her to a way more simple place like a caffe of a park, or somewhere scenic for that.

either way, just remember to not focus of your looks too much after you step out the door, and just focus on game.

best of luck, update when you’re done bhai

 

[DatNigga.com]

My first ever date btw, we are going to a restaurant, she wanted to go to the beach but it’s weird to be in the beach with shoes (need to heigh fraud) so I said some bs that I preferred going to a restaurant. I chose a restaurant that has good lightning as well since I was there a couple of times already and it’s a great restaurant. Anyway let us get straight into it.

I thought about every single detail.

Let’s start from head to toe literally

Hair: since my hair looks good when wet, I I’m using like a moisturizer cream that I once bought from my barber so it will look more wet and elegant.
Eyes: will also use an eyebrow gel so my brows will look more defined and thick. For my lases I use a lash curler, mascara, and I saw a guide here on botb that advised to take some of the eyebrow gel and a tweezer and then like pinch some lashes together so they will be more defined and it actually worked pretty decent. For eye color I use a slightly more bright color of my current eye color. As well as concealer for my dark circles.
skin quality & color: I use a tinted moisturizer and in the last week it was like 3-6 index so I used MT2 and tanned a bit.
For skin quality I’m using accutane right now and I have a huge annoying pimples right now I need to squeeze (over) so I will squeeze them tomorrow morning and then before I go out to the date I will use some foundation to lower the redness and the acne visibility) + green color corrector).
Lips: Vaseline tbh, and a tinted lip balm. like I’m not gay I won’t use lipstick (ironic right?).
body hair: I shaved my armpits, chest and facial hair. I shaved my armpits for a case I will sweat so it won’t be smelly and chest since Im going with a button shirt, I shaved my facial hair since I look better clean shaven (I shaved it now since my skin looks really red after shaving so I will let it cooldown till tomorrow).
Neck: not much I just will use a neck harness to pump it a little bit so it will look thicker.
Scent: I use a silver scent cologne, It’s the only cologne I use and it’s very cheap but I love the smell.
Frame and muscles: I’m going to the gym that day so I will spam lateral raises (holy fatigue @ce10098 @mikre ) and curls, just to pop veins.
Height: for height I never actually fraud it too much, but I got 3 inch insoles so I gotta try it, so I used Air Force ( I think it’s 3-5 CM ) and 3 inch insoles.
no personality fraud tomorrow unfortunately (gaba + balco)

I will all use a necklace that I have never used before and a nice bracelet I go to important events with.


I won’t be using any counters since I think it won’t do much different and I’m lazy and I think that what I’m doing is enough.

Tagging people who are knowledgeable bout frauding @Asoka @Sadist (also give me ideas maybe i can fraud more)

You got the date so she finds you attractive enough. Don’t focus on that too much. Fraud your personality. Lie about everything you possibly can since gym girls are only for sex not a relationship. Even if she asks you a normal question you don’t need to lie about lie to make your answer a bit better. Pay the bill beforehand. Call the restaurant give card details and add 20-30% tip prior. They will treat you like a king. Stay a bit mysterious. Don’t interview her. Have as much fun as you can or she will not have fun and get bored too. Break touch barrier immediately. Hug when you see. Get her to sit next to you not across you. (This is not an interview). Can touch her easier too. When you leave the restaurant she will be impressed you had sorted the bill beforehand so just like there is impulse buying in sales do the same here. Walk out the restaurant and keep holding her hand or touching her somewhere. Take her somewhere that’s not too busy. In the date don’t directly compliment her and be very hot and cold. Until then where you directly compliment her. Then you kiss her. Then you take her hand and put it on your dick. If she keeps holding it she wants to fuck.


Going to the bathroom and sorting the bill also works
Make sure to use pregab

 

[Sadist]

Then you take her hand and put it on your dick.

good advice but caged at this

 

[combatingNorwooding]

dont overdo ur lashes bhai

It looks natural, your thread helped me tbh.

also, why are u taking a girl to a restaurant for ur first date? it’s best to take her to a way more simple place like a caffe of a park, or somewhere scenic for that

its a “cheap” restaurant and Idk she said she would love to go to a restaurant, after we are done there we will probably go an nice cream shop we will see.

either way, just remember to not focus of your looks too much after you step out the door, and just focus on game.

best of luck, update when you’re done bhai

yh yh, I will update you, thanks!

You got the date so she finds you attractive enough. Don’t focus on that too much. Fraud your personality. Lie about everything you possibly can since gym girls are only for sex not a relationship

I already lied to her about most things and I listed them so she won’t catch my off guard.
I want to fraud even more tbh since I also enjoy it

Even if she asks you a normal question you don’t need to lie about lie to make your answer a bit better. Pay the bill beforehand. Call the restaurant give card details and add 20-30% tip prior. They will treat you like a king. Stay a bit mysterious. Don’t interview her. Have as much fun as you can or she will not have fun and get bored too. Break touch barrier immediately. Hug when you see. Get her to sit next to you not across you. (This is not an interview). Can touch her easier too. When you leave the restaurant she will be impressed you had sorted the bill beforehand so just like there is impulse buying in sales do the same here. Walk out the restaurant and keep holding her hand or touching her somewhere. Take her somewhere that’s not too busy. In the date don’t directly compliment her and be very hot and cold. Until then where you directly compliment her. Then you kiss her. Then you take her hand and put it on your dick. If she keeps holding it she wants to fuck.

these are actually good tips bro, thank you I will try to apply some of them

Make sure to use pregab

already said I won’t use it

 

[combatingNorwooding]

good advice but caged at this

Yeah but he’s right, it’s the best way to see if she is horny for sex or not

 

[Sadist]

btw @combatingNorwooding you should both have red wine, shit sets the mood well and loosens both of you up (don’t drink too much ofc, mid-tier tipsy is probably enough). also (don’t be desperate), but since you’re taking her to a restaurant on the first date, do slay if u have the opportunity to do so, as some foids who agree to restaurant on first dates just use the guys to get some fancy food and dip afterwards.

 

[Sadist]

Yeah but he’s right, it’s the best way to see if she is horny for sex or not

i just don’t quite get how u just put her hand on ur dick like that, shit is low inhib as fuck

 

[combatingNorwooding]

btw @combatingNorwooding you should both have red wine, shit sets the mood well and loosens both of you up (don’t drink too much ofc, mid-tier tipsy is probably enough). also (don’t be desperate), but since you’re taking her to a restaurant on the first date, do slay if u have the opportunity to do so, as some foids who agree to restaurant on first dates just use the guys to get some fancy food and dip afterwards.

Guys I need to memorize ts you write me here it’s actually a good advice

I didn’t expect good personality and advice other than looks on this forum tbh

 

[combatingNorwooding]

i just don’t quite get how u just put her hand on ur dick like that, shit is low inhib as fuck

It’s much easier than it looks, when you are both horny it’s not weird since a few seconds later she will already suck my dick

But if she doesn’t want it, then it will be weird asL

 

[Sadist]

Guys I need to memorize ts you write me here it’s actually a good advice

I didn’t expect good personality and advice other than looks on this forum tbh

well it’s just that high iq users have realized that it’s way beyond looks. i wont go too deep into this philosophy for now, but all i will say is that looks = leverage.

 

[combatingNorwooding]

well it’s just that high iq users have realized that it’s way beyond looks. i wont go too deep into this philosophy for now, but all i will say is that looks = leverage.

Exactly. From my personal experience on parties mostly, it’s not about the better looking guys getting the girls (even tho of course the very ugly guys won’t be getting unless high status), I saw LTNs with HTBs and guess what these LTNs had? Charisma.

IMO if you are low inhib and MTN you will have it easier with women than a CL with very high inhib. Here Inb4 muh CL bro, looks are everything.

 

[vratisevojvodo]

I hope you will slay at least because this is too much effort IMO, is she really worth it?

 

[bjebb007]

Why do you want to fraud 3 inches what happens if you have to take your shoes off

I find it more important to be low inhib/NT than actually looking good, if she agreed to the date u already passed in the looks department good luck bro

 

[X3737LMOGZ]

My first ever date btw, we are going to a restaurant, she wanted to go to the beach but it’s weird to be in the beach with shoes (need to heigh fraud) so I said some bs that I preferred going to a restaurant. I chose a restaurant that has good lightning as well since I was there a couple of times already and it’s a great restaurant. Anyway let us get straight into it.

I thought about every single detail.

Let’s start from head to toe literally

Hair: since my hair looks good when wet, I I’m using like a moisturizer cream that I once bought from my barber so it will look more wet and elegant.
Eyes: will also use an eyebrow gel so my brows will look more defined and thick. For my lases I use a lash curler, mascara, and I saw a guide here on botb that advised to take some of the eyebrow gel and a tweezer and then like pinch some lashes together so they will be more defined and it actually worked pretty decent. For eye color I use a slightly more bright color of my current eye color. As well as concealer for my dark circles.
skin quality & color: I use a tinted moisturizer and in the last week it was like 3-6 index so I used MT2 and tanned a bit.
For skin quality I’m using accutane right now and I have a huge annoying pimples right now I need to squeeze (over) so I will squeeze them tomorrow morning and then before I go out to the date I will use some foundation to lower the redness and the acne visibility) + green color corrector).
Lips: Vaseline tbh, and a tinted lip balm. like I’m not gay I won’t use lipstick (ironic right?).
body hair: I shaved my armpits, chest and facial hair. I shaved my armpits for a case I will sweat so it won’t be smelly and chest since Im going with a button shirt, I shaved my facial hair since I look better clean shaven (I shaved it now since my skin looks really red after shaving so I will let it cooldown till tomorrow).
Neck: not much I just will use a neck harness to pump it a little bit so it will look thicker.
Scent: I use a silver scent cologne, It’s the only cologne I use and it’s very cheap but I love the smell.
Frame and muscles: I’m going to the gym that day so I will spam lateral raises (holy fatigue @ce10098 @mikre ) and curls, just to pop veins.
Height: for height I never actually fraud it too much, but I got 3 inch insoles so I gotta try it, so I used Air Force ( I think it’s 3-5 CM ) and 3 inch insoles.
no personality fraud tomorrow unfortunately (gaba + balco)

I will all use a necklace that I have never used before and a nice bracelet I go to important events with.


I won’t be using any counters since I think it won’t do much different and I’m lazy and I think that what I’m doing is enough.

Tagging people who are knowledgeable bout frauding @Asoka @Sadist (also give me ideas maybe i can fraud more)

Dnr

 

[combatingNorwooding]

I hope you will slay at least because this is too much effort IMO, is she really worth it?

She’s high MTB, I’m frauding this hard every time I go to an important event anyway

Why do you want to fraud 3 inches what happens if you have to take your shoes off

why would i

I find it more important to be low inhib/NT than actually looking good, if she agreed to the date u already passed in the looks department good luck bro

I will try to be as NT as possible

And thank you! I will update yall

 

[Sadist]

Exactly. From my personal experience on parties mostly, it’s not about the better looking guys getting the girls (even tho of course the very ugly guys won’t be getting unless high status), I saw LTNs with HTBs and guess what these LTNs had? Charisma.

IMO if you are low inhib and MTN you will have it easier with women than a CL with very high inhib. Here Inb4 muh CL bro, looks are everything.

exactly!!!

 

[foidslayer92910]

AF1 is at least 3 inches

what fucking af1 do you have bruh

 

[foidslayer92910]

My first ever date btw, we are going to a restaurant, she wanted to go to the beach but it’s weird to be in the beach with shoes (need to heigh fraud) so I said some bs that I preferred going to a restaurant. I chose a restaurant that has good lightning as well since I was there a couple of times already and it’s a great restaurant. Anyway let us get straight into it.

I thought about every single detail.

Let’s start from head to toe literally

Hair: since my hair looks good when wet, I I’m using like a moisturizer cream that I once bought from my barber so it will look more wet and elegant.
Eyes: will also use an eyebrow gel so my brows will look more defined and thick. For my lases I use a lash curler, mascara, and I saw a guide here on botb that advised to take some of the eyebrow gel and a tweezer and then like pinch some lashes together so they will be more defined and it actually worked pretty decent. For eye color I use a slightly more bright color of my current eye color. As well as concealer for my dark circles.
skin quality & color: I use a tinted moisturizer and in the last week it was like 3-6 index so I used MT2 and tanned a bit.
For skin quality I’m using accutane right now and I have a huge annoying pimples right now I need to squeeze (over) so I will squeeze them tomorrow morning and then before I go out to the date I will use some foundation to lower the redness and the acne visibility) + green color corrector).
Lips: Vaseline tbh, and a tinted lip balm. like I’m not gay I won’t use lipstick (ironic right?).
body hair: I shaved my armpits, chest and facial hair. I shaved my armpits for a case I will sweat so it won’t be smelly and chest since Im going with a button shirt, I shaved my facial hair since I look better clean shaven (I shaved it now since my skin looks really red after shaving so I will let it cooldown till tomorrow).
Neck: not much I just will use a neck harness to pump it a little bit so it will look thicker.
Scent: I use a silver scent cologne, It’s the only cologne I use and it’s very cheap but I love the smell.
Frame and muscles: I’m going to the gym that day so I will spam lateral raises (holy fatigue @ce10098 @mikre ) and curls, just to pop veins.
Height: for height I never actually fraud it too much, but I got 3 inch insoles so I gotta try it, so I used Air Force ( I think it’s 3-5 CM ) and 3 inch insoles.
no personality fraud tomorrow unfortunately (gaba + balco)

I will all use a necklace that I have never used before and a nice bracelet I go to important events with.


I won’t be using any counters since I think it won’t do much different and I’m lazy and I think that what I’m doing is enough.

Tagging people who are knowledgeable bout frauding @Asoka @Sadist (also give me ideas maybe i can fraud more)

good luck man update us tag me hope it goes well

 

[foidslayer92910]

My first ever date btw, we are going to a restaurant, she wanted to go to the beach but it’s weird to be in the beach with shoes (need to heigh fraud) so I said some bs that I preferred going to a restaurant. I chose a restaurant that has good lightning as well since I was there a couple of times already and it’s a great restaurant. Anyway let us get straight into it.

I thought about every single detail.

Let’s start from head to toe literally

Hair: since my hair looks good when wet, I I’m using like a moisturizer cream that I once bought from my barber so it will look more wet and elegant.
Eyes: will also use an eyebrow gel so my brows will look more defined and thick. For my lases I use a lash curler, mascara, and I saw a guide here on botb that advised to take some of the eyebrow gel and a tweezer and then like pinch some lashes together so they will be more defined and it actually worked pretty decent. For eye color I use a slightly more bright color of my current eye color. As well as concealer for my dark circles.
skin quality & color: I use a tinted moisturizer and in the last week it was like 3-6 index so I used MT2 and tanned a bit.
For skin quality I’m using accutane right now and I have a huge annoying pimples right now I need to squeeze (over) so I will squeeze them tomorrow morning and then before I go out to the date I will use some foundation to lower the redness and the acne visibility) + green color corrector).
Lips: Vaseline tbh, and a tinted lip balm. like I’m not gay I won’t use lipstick (ironic right?).
body hair: I shaved my armpits, chest and facial hair. I shaved my armpits for a case I will sweat so it won’t be smelly and chest since Im going with a button shirt, I shaved my facial hair since I look better clean shaven (I shaved it now since my skin looks really red after shaving so I will let it cooldown till tomorrow).
Neck: not much I just will use a neck harness to pump it a little bit so it will look thicker.
Scent: I use a silver scent cologne, It’s the only cologne I use and it’s very cheap but I love the smell.
Frame and muscles: I’m going to the gym that day so I will spam lateral raises (holy fatigue @ce10098 @mikre ) and curls, just to pop veins.
Height: for height I never actually fraud it too much, but I got 3 inch insoles so I gotta try it, so I used Air Force ( I think it’s 3-5 CM ) and 3 inch insoles.
no personality fraud tomorrow unfortunately (gaba + balco)

I will all use a necklace that I have never used before and a nice bracelet I go to important events with.


I won’t be using any counters since I think it won’t do much different and I’m lazy and I think that what I’m doing is enough.

Tagging people who are knowledgeable bout frauding @Asoka @Sadist (also give me ideas maybe i can fraud more)

wear a good cologne
use lumify for scelra
use a tiny bit of vaseline on eye lashes so they actually stay curled
suggest wearing glasses if eyes aren't the strongest point (talking about infras)
don't wear 3inch insoles wear 1.5-2 max imo