i have an unconventional attraction to incels

[heightmaxxing]

i have an unconventional attraction to incels

I've been thinking about this for a while and I wasn't totally sure if there was a sub that would even fit it. I'm 17FtM, which immediately makes my attraction to incels a bit of a problem. Most incels I've met or seen are conservative and not the biggest fan of transgenders. Even though I know there's some that are fine with transgenders and aren't conservative, there's even less who would be willing to be with one.

Honestly, I'm not sure where my attraction stems from. I was raised female and consider myself feminist, so it isn't derived from some hatred of women. I also disagree with blackpilled ideology, so it isn't related to that either. It might be because I'm kind of unattractive myself, but I'm also attracted to stereotypically good looking and average looking guys too, just not as much.

It's not just about how they look either. There's something attractive to me about the 'stereotypical' incel. The kind you see in media. Greasy guys who debate with people online, have squeaky voices, don't shower much, jerk off all the time, watch anime, and are kind of creepy.

Really just had to get this off my chest because I'm pretty sure most of my friends would be kind of disgusted if I admitted this to them.

 

[trench]

its okay bud i accept you, even tho i didnt read a single word

 

[heightmaxxing]

They want my big incel cock

 

[Orc]

there's an overlap between incels and trans men because they're usually short with poorly developed skulls, and their personalities aren't very masculine either due to their upbringing (most can never shake off the fembrainedness), which means women don't find them very attractive, there's exceptions to this of course.

that's combined with crippling depression because dysphoria wrecks your mental state, which means that a lot of them also end up as losers, or are very prone to falling in a downward spiral, like every other demographic that's prone to depression.

the majority don't work out, don't diet, and are too afraid to do anything drastic that'll actually improve their quality of life.

I've tried helping them before but you genuinely get kicked out of their communities if you suggest that they up their fucking dose (they're prescribed around 50mg of test weekly with shit protocols i.e sustanon that requires them to be injected only once every 2-3 weeks for example which means your levels won't be very high and you'll be in a constant rollercoaster)

they're afraid of diy, they're afraid of needles, they won't get implants, they won't inject dht derivatives, they won't use anything that'll help them shred fat or recomposition, they can't put down the fork, their willpower is generally very low and their discipline is non existent.

 

[Sceptical]

there's an overlap between incels and trans men because they're usually short with poorly developed skulls, and their personalities aren't very masculine either due to their upbringing (most can never shake off the fembrainedness), which means women don't find them very attractive, there's exceptions to this of course.

that's combined with crippling depression because dysphoria wrecks your mental state, which means that a lot of them also end up as losers, or are very prone to falling in a downward spiral, like every other demographic that's prone to depression.

the majority don't work out, don't diet, and are too afraid to do anything drastic that'll actually improve their quality of life.

I've tried helping them before but you genuinely get kicked out of their communities if you suggest that they up their fucking dose (they're prescribed around 50mg of test weekly with shit protocols i.e sustanon that requires them to be injected only once every 2-3 weeks for example which means your levels won't be very high and you'll be in a constant rollercoaster)

they're afraid of diy, they're afraid of needles, they won't get implants, they won't inject dht derivatives, they won't use anything that'll help them shred fat or recomposition, they can't put down the fork, their willpower is generally very low and their discipline is non existent.

aren't you technically a tranny too?

 

[Cleetus Cornfield]

there's an overlap between incels and trans men because they're usually short with poorly developed skulls, and their personalities aren't very masculine either due to their upbringing (most can never shake off the fembrainedness), which means women don't find them very attractive, there's exceptions to this of course.

that's combined with crippling depression because dysphoria wrecks your mental state, which means that a lot of them also end up as losers, or are very prone to falling in a downward spiral, like every other demographic that's prone to depression.

the majority don't work out, don't diet, and are too afraid to do anything drastic that'll actually improve their quality of life.

I've tried helping them before but you genuinely get kicked out of their communities if you suggest that they up their fucking dose (they're prescribed around 50mg of test weekly with shit protocols i.e sustanon that requires them to be injected only once every 2-3 weeks for example which means your levels won't be very high and you'll be in a constant rollercoaster)

they're afraid of diy, they're afraid of needles, they won't get implants, they won't inject dht derivatives, they won't use anything that'll help them shred fat or recomposition, they can't put down the fork, their willpower is generally very low and their discipline is non existent.

 

[Cleetus Cornfield]

there's an overlap between incels and trans men because they're usually short with poorly developed skulls, and their personalities aren't very masculine either due to their upbringing (most can never shake off the fembrainedness), which means women don't find them very attractive, there's exceptions to this of course.

that's combined with crippling depression because dysphoria wrecks your mental state, which means that a lot of them also end up as losers, or are very prone to falling in a downward spiral, like every other demographic that's prone to depression.

the majority don't work out, don't diet, and are too afraid to do anything drastic that'll actually improve their quality of life.

I've tried helping them before but you genuinely get kicked out of their communities if you suggest that they up their fucking dose (they're prescribed around 50mg of test weekly with shit protocols i.e sustanon that requires them to be injected only once every 2-3 weeks for example which means your levels won't be very high and you'll be in a constant rollercoaster)

they're afraid of diy, they're afraid of needles, they won't get implants, they won't inject dht derivatives, they won't use anything that'll help them shred fat or recomposition, they can't put down the fork, their willpower is generally very low and their discipline is non existent.

Becoming a female to male is literally a death sentence cause you basically can only date other LGBTQ people.

At least with male to female you can get butt fucked by horny guys. You dont even need to look good.

 

[Orc]

aren't you technically a tranny too?

intersex leaning male to male isn't that big of a step, although I still had to go through many of the same issues they usually face to some lesser extent, which is also why I've tried to give them advice, but they don't listen.

 

[Orc]

Becoming a female to male is literally a death sentence cause you basically can only date other LGBTQ people.

At least with male to female you can get butt fucked by horny guys. You dont even need to look good.

it doesn't have to be, it's mainly due to a lack of trying that they become like this, most of their lives would literally be fixed if they just took an AI to manage their estrogen levels and upped their dose.

and no it's not that simple, trans women don't have lower standards for men than cis women do, they still want tall handsome guys.

 

[Cleetus Cornfield]

it doesn't have to be, it's mainly due to a lack of trying that they become like this, most of their lives would literally be fixed if they just took an AI to manage their estrogen levels and upped their dose.

and no it's not that simple, trans women don't have lower standards for men than cis women do, they still want tall handsome guys.

i dont believe that tbh. I feel like cause the LGBTQ community often tend to deviate from the norm in terms of their looks, they will usually seek relationships with others who present themselves similarly to them.

 

[Orc]

i dont believe that tbh. I feel like cause the LGBTQ community often tend to deviate from the norm in terms of their looks, they will usually seek relationships with others who present themselves similarly to them.

they don't deviate that much in terms of their sexual attraction, they both just want conventionally attractive partners, the issue is that cis people don't understand their problems at all, which makes it very hard to feel understood which is important for relationships.

besides them more often being gay/lesbian.

 

[Davidproton]

there's an overlap between incels and trans men because they're usually short with poorly developed skulls, and their personalities aren't very masculine either due to their upbringing (most can never shake off the fembrainedness), which means women don't find them very attractive, there's exceptions to this of course.

that's combined with crippling depression because dysphoria wrecks your mental state, which means that a lot of them also end up as losers, or are very prone to falling in a downward spiral, like every other demographic that's prone to depression.

the majority don't work out, don't diet, and are too afraid to do anything drastic that'll actually improve their quality of life.

I've tried helping them before but you genuinely get kicked out of their communities if you suggest that they up their fucking dose (they're prescribed around 50mg of test weekly with shit protocols i.e sustanon that requires them to be injected only once every 2-3 weeks for example which means your levels won't be very high and you'll be in a constant rollercoaster)

they're afraid of diy, they're afraid of needles, they won't get implants, they won't inject dht derivatives, they won't use anything that'll help them shred fat or recomposition, they can't put down the fork, their willpower is generally very low and their discipline is non existent.

Does DHT gel increase penis size for bio men too?

 

[Orc]

Does DHT gel increase penis size for bio men too?

it's used in the treatment of micro-penises so I imagine so.